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No, I fancy Evan.
Oh I am just a regular son of a bitch today huh?
In your dreams.
No, I fancy Evan.
Oh I am just a regular son of a bitch today huh?
No, in my dreams I am a giant robot that eats Manhattan.In your dreams.
It's like a ****ing kindergarten in here.
Nobody is forcing you to post.
"But many discussions of the Spanish Civil War overlook, minimize, or apologize for the atrocious behavior and tyrannical aspirations of perhaps the most powerful faction of the Spanish Republicans: the Anarchist movement. "
The Anarcho-Statists of Spain
I don't have an analysis, the subject is not very interesting, I have no problem with it because I don't see any Western democracies converting to Anarcho-Capitalism any time soon.I wouldn't want to live in a bartering system, I don't have much to offer. Cheers.OK, you have a problem with it, so having found that, what is your analysis? I will argue that Caplan has very little interest in presenting the leftist Anarchists in a positive light (he is an Anarcho-Capitalist and has been accused of historical revisionism to support that) but, it would be quite dull for me to copy and paste a rebuttal, I have already stated my position that the collective democracy and bartering were things we could learn from, what is your problem with that?
I don't think there is anything within the definition of anarchy that precludes the use of electricity or water. I also don't think that anarchy has anything to do with the supermarket or pounding corn on the ruins of an abandoned super-highway.
Maybe some hyperbole?
My electricity company does a good job of delivering electricity to me. I wouldn't want that replaced by a bunch of anarcho-hippies voting on every decision.
If they are voting it's not anarchy, I'm pretty sure that falls well within the definition of another form of government.
If they are voting it's not anarchy, I'm pretty sure that falls well within the definition of another form of government.
No, you are attacking a strawman, Anarchy does not mean decisions are not taken collectively.
Please define exactly what you think an anarchistic society would be like and how it would function.
Please define exactly what you think an anarchistic society would be like and how it would function.
Debate is rather difficult when the terms are unclear by those involved
Sorry that is just a vague post it doesn't define what you think an anarchistic society would be like and how it would function.
Snark removed, apologies Quag but this equivocation with the word Anarchy is really starting to piss me off.
... I stated that I don't think that Anarchy would work but some elements of it might be possible through Socialism so you are pretty much asking the wrong person. I did however raise the example of the Catalan Anarchists and how they briefly functioned as an example. ...if you look up CNT FAI or any other reference to Catalonia during the build up to the Spanish Civil War you can learn about it.
Snark removed, apologies Quag but this equivocation with the word Anarchy is really starting to piss me off.
Not trying to piss you off but you seem to have a different idea of what anarchism is than others here
That's my point. Once somebody or a committee takes a decision and tells others what to do then it would not be anarchy in the strict meaning of the word. I can't see how a truly anarchic system would work in practice and the proponents of anarchy here seem reluctant to tell me how it would function.
No, you are attacking a strawman, Anarchy does not mean decisions are not taken collectively.
He was a real dreamer, this Kropotkin. Send that definition to all publishers of dictionaries. I'm sure they will be grateful.Anarchy or more specifically Anarchism...
'The name given to a principle of theory of life and conduct under which society is conceived without government - harmony in such a society being obtained, not by submission to law, or by obedience to any authority, but by free agreements concluded between various groups, territorial and professional, freely constituted for the sake of production and consumption, as also for the satisfaction of the infinite variety of the needs and aspirations of a civilized being. In a society developed on these lines, the voluntary associations which already now begin to cover all fields of human activity would take a still greater extension so as to substitute themselves for the state of its functions.' - Kropotkin
Anarchy or more specifically Anarchism...
'The name given to a principle of theory of life and conduct under which society is conceived without government - harmony in such a society being obtained, not by submission to law, or by obedience to any authority, but by free agreements concluded between various groups, territorial and professional, freely constituted for the sake of production and consumption, as also for the satisfaction of the infinite variety of the needs and aspirations of a civilized being. In a society developed on these lines, the voluntary associations which already now begin to cover all fields of human activity would take a still greater extension so as to substitute themselves for the state of its functions.' - Kropotkin
I feel like I'm a little late to the conversation, but anyway. . .
I think it's a misnomer to call anarchy a system and disingenuous to say that it either would or wouldn't work. By it's very nature, it is the lack of a system. How can something that is nothing work, it's kind of like asking someone if atheism is a valid belief system. Its not that atheism isn't a valid belief system, its that it isn't any system at all. Same goes for anarchy, by its very nature it is the lack of a system.
Literally- without leader