Why not adoption/foster care?

[Mashmont]

Backpedalling doesn't work.

Is it my fault you can't read?

 

[Mashmont]

Hahahahahaha! Thanks for the laugh. They most certainly can and some do.

You can call a cat a dog all day long, but it doesn't make a cat a dog.

 

[Mashmont]

Sez who?

Says God.

 

[Mashmont]

You mean you try self help? How about the integrity disabled?

Lots of personal attacks from the angry atheists. Wowie.

 

[Mashmont]

Women are perfectly morally enabled to enjoy and share sex. It only has to do with abortion (there are no children killed, you know that) if she is not prepared to have child, financially or otherwise.

The Lord was quite clear in His scriptures (if you want to rely on that) that He values women and their lives more than the unborn and never spoke against abortion.

So you are making things up to say He was against abortion. Please stop with that lie. You repeat and refuse to repent...it will mean you do not meet Him at your end.

Of course the lord spoke against abortion. It is blasphemy to suggest God would allow the destroying of His little children in the womb. No Christian would EVER say that.

 

[Mashmont]

Prove it. What do you have besides prescriptive rules by men of the times? I already explained why having less sex outside of marriage was safer then.

The word of God never changes. Compassion, forgiveness, peace, and brotherly love. It never changes, it's never in dispute, it come thru everywhere in the New Testament.

Jesus' teaching against fornication never changes, is never in dispute,a nd comes through everywhere in the NT. Thanks for agreeing.

 

[Mashmont]

You never speak of justice...and the Catholic cult rules you with rules that get you to reproduce like rabbits so you produce more $$$$$ for their collection plates. Rules to control you.

No matter what your cult says, God's Word is never anymore or less than this: compassion, forgiveness, peace, and brotherly love. He does not care how you achieve those things.

You atheists don't get to misrepresent God. I'm very sorry about that.

 

[Mashmont]

How the **** would you know anything about anybody?

Pelosi favors abortion. No practicing Catholic can do that.

 

[Mashmont]

Only for the ignorant, the uneducated and the primitive thinkers.

We've already established I have a university degree while you do not, so I'm pretty sure you don't want to talk about the uneducated

 

[Mashmont]

Yeah, that sounds "really Christian." :roll:

So your God punishes everyone else that doesnt get married?

If someone makes a bad choice for themselves, by their own free will, did God punish them? Or did they punish themselves?

Again, you atheists somehow don't understand natural consequences for actions. That's why you live in unreality.

 

[Mashmont]

Yeah, that sounds "really Christian." :roll:

So your God punishes everyone else that doesnt get married?

"Your God". You just gave yourself away. My God is the God of Abraham, and you just admitted that's not your god. That's a shame.

 

[maquiscat]

Congrats. That's one more stupid claim you've made. Society has always frowned on abortion, even before the 1860's

You've already proven that history is not a strong suit, but just to reinforce that....

When the United States first became independent, most states applied English common law to abortion. This meant it was not permitted after quickening, or the start of fetal movements, usually felt 15–20 weeks after conception.[11]

Abortion has existed in America since European colonization. The earliest settlers would often encourage abortions before the "quickening" stage in the pregnancy. There were many reasons given for this, including not having resources to bear children. It was not until the late 1800s[clarification needed] when states began to make abortions illegal.

In When Abortion Was a Crime, Leslie J. Reagan demonstrates that abortion has been a common procedure—"part of life"—in America since the eighteenth century, both during the slightly more than half of our history as a nation when it has been legal and during the slightly less than half when it was not.

Until the last third of the nineteenth century, when it was criminalized state by state across the land, abortion was legal before "quickening" (approximately the fourth month of pregnancy). Colonial home medical guides gave recipes for "bringing on the menses" with herbs that could be grown in one's garden or easily found in the woods. By the mid eighteenth century commercial preparations were so widely available that they had inspired their own euphemism ("taking the trade"). Unfortunately, these drugs were often fatal. The first statutes regulating abortion, passed in the 1820s and 1830s, were actually poison-control laws: the sale of commercial abortifacients was banned, but abortion per se was not. The laws made little difference. By the 1840s the abortion business—including the sale of illegal drugs, which were widely advertised in the popular press—was booming.

Now while the first anti-abortion laws, did occur prior to the 1860's, that period was when the bulk were passed, with some forerunners, and some stranglers.

 

[maquiscat]

If one person's words causes someone to leave a church, the second person's convictions were very flimsy to begin with. I think it's just an excuse. Most atheists don't attend church, not out of any big objection as much as they are too lazy to go.

I spoke also of those who don't come to Christ because of stumbling blocks such as yourself driving them away.

 

[maquiscat]

Which means your reference to Jesus and the Battle of Jericho is a laughable lie.

I was working on the premise of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same being, but if you are one of the 3 separate being type of Christian, then your point is acknowledge.

 

[maquiscat]

Just as nothing requires an unmarried to have sex. Thanks for proving my point.

Married vs unmarried is irrelavant to the point of:

Huh? If you don't want something to happen, then you don't do the thing that makes it happen. What could be more logical than that? Unless you're a leftwinger of course.

Unless you want to claim that being married changes things insofar as birth control and abortion. Your red herring fails.

 

[maquiscat]

Thanks for proving my point. Millions of Americans dont drive.

I cannot believe you just accused me (a Christian) of stupidity. You just confirmed MY claim :doh

:doh :doh :doh :lamo

Remember, in his mind, if you are not his kind of Christian, then you are not a Christian.

 

[maquiscat]

I don't have to abstain, because I'm married. Sex is reserved for those of us who manned up and made the commitment of marriage. And yes we are entitled to the health benefits from that. Unmarried folks haven't earned that right.

You do have to abstain if you don't want children.

 

[maquiscat]

A lot of people have to drive to get to work.

No they don't. They can make the choice to get a job within walking distance, or to live in an area with public transportation. If they don't want to be in a car accident then they shouldn't drive or ride in a car.

 

[prometeus]

We've already established I have a university degree while you do not

No you declared that while proving the exact opposite.

I'm pretty sure you don't want to talk about the uneducated

When it comes to your posts it is a perfectly fitting characterization.

 

[maquiscat]

No, men can't really have husbands, no matter what some misguided leftist ruling says.

Yes, yes, they can. Because the legal definition of marriage has no bearing upon, nor is affected by, any religious definition of marriage, of which there are multiple religious definitions. The fact that your specific religion does not accept those other definitions does not change the fact that they exist.

 

[maquiscat]

So many misguided leftists and atheists think there can be love and compassion without rules and justice. Nothing works that way. You people are SO misguided.

Pot kettle achromatic

 

[maquiscat]

Seeing as there is no quote I thought it would be evident I was responding to the original thread post. Thanks bunches for helping me learn how to pander to people who can't infer things for themselves. :roll:

Also it would probably be easier to understand your tone if you used the emojis, see how I did use an emoticon so clearly I'm better at using the features available than you. Yeah man real important.

Sadly, this far into the thread, it isn't obvious. Just because you think it should be obvious, does not mean that it will be. You are dealing with people from all kinds of backgrounds and learning. As for tone, If you know what a good FYI emoji would be, I'm open for suggestions.

 

[maquiscat]

You atheists don't get to misrepresent God. I'm very sorry about that.

And yet you continue to misrepresent God, you atheist.

 

[Scrabaholic]

I hope you are willing to pay the social and medical costs of these heroin addict out of your own pocket. If these women so desperately did not want to become pregnant, maybe they should have followed Christian teaching of no sex outside marriage. But how stupid do you have to be to risk your life just for the chance to kill your baby?

How many times has YOUR body suffered the ravages of pregnancy?

I believe the costs of police, courts and incarceration are way more. Portugal decriminalized drugs and put the money saved into rehab programs.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Is it my fault you can't read?

Oh, the irony.