Why not adoption/foster care?

[maquiscat]

Yeah it does. You implied one person who attends a church should be able to influence others not to attend. I called out that idiocy

One Christian can bring another to Christ. Likewise, all it takes is one Christian to be a stumbling block to keep a person from Christ.

 

[maquiscat]

You say so many stupidly false things. Atheists have such poor judgment all the way around.

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Licensed to drive dose not automatically equate to a person owning a car to drive. Many people live in the big cities and don't have a car, because it's not practical. However, the fact that one does own a car does not mean that they are required to make use of it. Nothing requires one to use a car.

 

[Logician Man]

Sex comes with restrictions. That’s why the Bible condemned fornication. It’s blasphemy to say God permits it, and it upsets me greatly when you atheists lie about the Bible

/// Sex comes with restrictions /// <---- Please cite a credible source that validates/supports this asinine positive claim, or have it summarily dismissed due to inability to meet B of P.

 

[Mashmont]

Wrong. Abortion was common prior to the 1860's. That is when the bulk of the laws making abortion illegal occurred. There was no overall societal condemnation of it until then.

Congrats. That's one more stupid claim you've made. Society has always frowned on abortion, even before the 1860's

 

[vegas giants]

Congrats. That's one more stupid claim you've made. Society has always frowned on abortion, even before the 1860's

Uh.......nope

 

[Mashmont]

One Christian can bring another to Christ. Likewise, all it takes is one Christian to be a stumbling block to keep a person from Christ.

If one person's words causes someone to leave a church, the second person's convictions were very flimsy to begin with. I think it's just an excuse. Most atheists don't attend church, not out of any big objection as much as they are too lazy to go.

 

[Mashmont]

Which has what to do with God ordering people to go to war?

Which means your reference to Jesus and the Battle of Jericho is a laughable lie.

 

[Mashmont]

Licensed to drive dose not automatically equate to a person owning a car to drive. Many people live in the big cities and don't have a car, because it's not practical. However, the fact that one does own a car does not mean that they are required to make use of it. Nothing requires one to use a car.

Just as nothing requires an unmarried to have sex. Thanks for proving my point.

 

[Mashmont]

You don't get to decide what is "immoral" for me or anyone else but yourself, and thank goodness for that. It's plain common sense for anyone who doesn't want to either get pregnant or create a pregnancy to use birth control as prevention whenever possible. Even though it isn't 100% guaranteed against unwanted pregnancy, it's still better to use it than not to.

Actually, it's not me who decided what is moral and what isn't. It's God. All I am is the messenger.

 

[Mashmont]

/// Sex comes with restrictions /// <---- Please cite a credible source that validates/supports this asinine positive claim, or have it summarily dismissed due to inability to meet B of P.

Trolling pretty early in the day, aintcha?

 

[vegas giants]

When I talk to pro-choice people it seems that a big reason abortions exist is so the baby does not get born into a financially unstable family or an abusive one. However, I think that abortion is not the solution. If a woman is not financially stable she should not be having unprotected sex and should understand the consequences of her actions, in my opinion. This brings me to my main question...(drum roll please..) Why pick abortion over things like adoption or foster care? There are thousands of couples/families that are infertile and cannot get pregnant on their own. I myself have two adopted siblings who now have a better life and a future. Any thoughts and opinions would be great, Thanks!

Some women dont want to risk dying. Duh

 

[Mashmont]

"Protected" women? Hardly. I'd say it did the opposite, by denying women the ability to make our own reproductive -- or more accurately, non-reproductive -- choices for ourselves. Those were not better times for women, they were worse times. And I hope we never go back to those dark and ugly days.

You leftwingers act like somebody forced women do immoral things like seek back alley abortions. Would you also say since heroin use is illegal, people are being "forced" to go to back alleys to get illegal heroin? It's a ridiculous argument. Nobody is forcing women to kill their little babies, either legally or illegally. But in the old day, societal mores protected women by saying abortions were disreputable. That made them think twice before destroying their child.

 

[Logician Man]

Trolling pretty early in the day, aintcha?

Translation: Mashmont clearly made yet another positive claim he can't validate with any credible data/link, so Mashmont does what he always does when he makes an asinine, unsupported positive claim, which paints himself into a corner, and puts forth a silly, useless deflection that doesn't work at all, and loses yet another argument.

 

[Izzy]

1) You have to strain so hard that your taint rips open.

2) Or you could walk around with your lower tummy held together by stitches for a while

3) If you don't have adoption parents lined up there is a chance that baby will go years without a family, they might be old enough to talk and understand how alone they are before they get adopted. What a traumatic start to a life.

4) An alarming amount of foster care kids end up sexually abused, so sorry, but if I were a woman I wouldn't go through almost a year of discomfort followed by the most painful turd of my lifetime, just so I can hand a baby to a predator.

5) Unless this is a miracle baby you can just make another.

6) It is absolutely pointless to try and stop them. Abortion has been around for centuries so I'm pretty sure all you pro lifers are trying to do is make it so women have to lie to their family and use a coat hanger instead of a doctor. A underage girl in Alabama killed herself because her parents tried to force her into giving birth to an unwanted child. That day, and many other days, the pro life movement killed two babies instead of one.

You claim to value life but can only consider a thing that has no wants or worries, when there is a desperate girl right in front of you. Please stop making fetuses more important than their mothers. If the mother has to raise a child she never wanted you make two people unhappy, when you could have let her get that abortion so she could choose to have a child at a later date, you know, when she's ready. Forcing a life into this world with no guarantee that it will be loved and supported.

If you are concerned about adoption, go McDucking adopt! Stop trying to guilt people into ripping their p*ssy for the sake of flooding an unprepared foster system.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Artificial birth control is immmoral,

Sez who?

 

[Scrabaholic]

No it wasn't. America protected women from having illegal abortions by having societal condemnation of it. Those were better times.

Have you ever watched a woman die or almost die from an illegal abortion? I have. It turned me from anti to pro choice.

 

[Scrabaholic]

That's a stupid analogy. People have to drive cars. Unmarried people (who account for the vast majority (83%) of abortions) not only don't have to have sex, but shouldn't.

Sex is normal and has health benefits. You can abstain if you choose, but others will not.

 

[Scrabaholic]

You really have strong convictions if a conversation with one person can keep you from going to a church. So you opted for NO church? How does that make sense?

Please read for comprehension. I did not say I opted for no church.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Be glad. That analogy got destroyed.

Incorrect. Nobody HAS to drive a car. In fact, millions of people don't - worldwide, probably billions.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Your 'husband'? I thought you were a dude.

Newsflash: Men can have husbands. Same sex marriage exists.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Sounds like that was one person's view, not that of the organization.

It always amazes me when somebody says something like "Oh, I left the church because because a nun scolded me in school once". Really? You made a life decision because you got butt hurt? How flimsy is a person's faith that one human's words can make you leave the church. Some people just look for excuses.

Since when does "I had been to her church a couple times." make one a member of that church???? Reading comprehension is your friend.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Sex comes with restrictions. That’s why the Bible condemned fornication. It’s blasphemy to say God permits it, and it upsets me greatly when you atheists lie about the Bible

Old testament. Jesus did away w/ the OT, remember? And I am Christian.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Uh, no, Scrab didn't say "no church." She said she didn't go back to THAT church. As in, not the church that didn't allow divorce in cases of abuse. I wouldn't have gone back to that particular church either, whether it was the Catholic Church or not.

Exactly. It's pretty basic reading comprehension. As I said, I had only been to that church a couple times. It is not, and never has been, my denomination.

 

[Scrabaholic]

If one person's words causes someone to leave a church, the second person's convictions were very flimsy to begin with. I think it's just an excuse. Most atheists don't attend church, not out of any big objection as much as they are too lazy to go.

Hello?? Most atheists don't attend a church because they do not believe there is a higher power. smh

 

[Scrabaholic]

Just as nothing requires an unmarried to have sex. Thanks for proving my point.

Married people do not have to have sex either.