Why isn't Trump's approval rating collapsing after Charlottesville?

[Mycroft]

The left has gone so rabid from losing and having no voice that the only thing they have left is to go after statues. They feel that that is the only fight they have even a chance of winning.

 

[JamesBY]

The Alt Right have ears and eyes yet can't hear or see.

The Trump high water tide was the election, and since then it has been receding inevitably to the swamp from which it came.

How good that is.

 

[FastPace]

The US military Generals and Admirals tied as they are to the military-industrial-complex and whatever nonsense and schemes politicians come up with, like to claim Russia is the greatest existential threat to the United States of America. With both the US and Russia floating nuclear armed subs underwater throughout the world, with nuclear missiles that could wipe out dozens of each others cities, with ICBM nukes both have on their mainland soil capable of not only annihilating each others country but being an existential threat to all life on planet earth... yeah I guess the Russian Bear is an existential threat if you are drunk American jock going into its woods taunting it.



What these Generals and Admirals or their bought off political bosses never tell the American public is that maybe the Black Swan is this: America's greatest existential threat is: Americans.

Oh, let me guess, Charlottesville is either all Russia's (Putin's) fault or all Trumps fault. "But, but, but... when will drug addicts start taking personal responsibility?" Oh... I don't know maybe when you Americans start taking personal responsibility. Fat chance of that ever happening, eh? It's always someone else's fault. "He made me do it." Just like a line from a man that serial beats his wife for "back talking."

The Republican Party and Democratic Party--their Establishment members--are like Tweedledee and Tweedledum. How the hell these buffoons have access to the most destructive nuclear weapons on earth is beyond me. And they think they are soooooooo clever. Oh, let me guess their brilliant plan. They are going to remove Trump and then try and unite a divided country by manufacturing a common enemy in nuclear power Russia. And in their brilliance dumb, dumber, and dumbest are certain Russia is not going to launch nuclear attacks on mainland USA. Because they are certain they know all Russia's moves and capabilities and no Black Swans exist. And if any doubts creep in just have a multi-city near-naked gay parade around a Golden Calf. We have "freedom!"

Charlottesville is a pimple on the butt of the earth. You cupcakes in America go messing with those tough Russians--with your glass jaws and swollen obese rears--the only thing your grandchildren are ever going to have are tears. And that I promise you.





The meaning of "existential" | Ask The Editor | Learner's Dictionary

Answer


The adjective existential is often defined as, “of, or relating to, existence.” However, as you point out, that doesn’t really explain the meaning of existential in most contexts.

Let’s try another approach, looking at how the word is most often used. Using a language corpus, I found that existential most often occurs in one of these phrases:

existential threat
existential questions
existential crisis


The first phrase, existential threat, is used in texts or discussions about politics, usually politics in the Middle East. In this context, existential is being used literally. An existential threat is a threat to a people’s existence or survival.

Which raises a question to me about blood and soil and existential threats to any people or land. How did South Africa ever happen to have so many white people? What was or is the existential threat to the Amerindians of the USA? Will not the USA still be the USA if the Federal Government is run by Islamist Turks and Arabs? What about rampant crime and deep internal divisions in a country? Can corporations ever pose an existential threat to the people of a country if the come to own its government and top brass in the military? Putin was behind Charlotteville?

 

[Fenton]

The Alt Right have ears and eyes yet can't hear or see.

The Trump high water tide was the election, and since then it has been receding inevitably to the swamp from which it came.

How good that is.

You mean the high water mark ?? And the WORST the Left has on Trump is Russian collusion conspiracy lunacy and something that was conjured out of thin air, his support for White supremacist and neo-nazi's

Obama used the power and authority of federal agencies to target American citizens who dared to challenge his ideology and authority. From the IRS scandal to naming Journalist James Rosen as a criminal co-conspirator under the 1922 Espionage act, AND hacking into his emails and phone records to his NSA illegally unmasking thousands of American citizens for purely political reasons to his DHS illegally hacking into State voter registration databases.

His administration also hacked the phones of AP reporters. So you'll understand when I say its really difficult to take you people and your selective outrage seriously.

 

[LaylaWindu]

Given his comments defending white supremacists, you should expect Trump's approval to be in freefall now. But apparently his Gallup rating is pretty stable. Why is that?

uhm . . isn't it already like around 33% haha where is it supposed to collapse from there?

 

[joG]

uhm . . isn't it already like around 33% haha where is it supposed to collapse from there?

Why, that is as low as Marcon's, who favors the EU.

 

[katzgar]

You mean the high water mark ?? And the WORST the Left has on Trump is Russian collusion conspiracy lunacy and something that was conjured out of thin air, his support for White supremacist and neo-nazi's

Obama used the power and authority of federal agencies to target American citizens who dared to challenge his ideology and authority. From the IRS scandal to naming Journalist James Rosen as a criminal co-conspirator under the 1922 Espionage act, AND hacking into his emails and phone records to his NSA illegally unmasking thousands of American citizens for purely political reasons to his DHS illegally hacking into State voter registration databases.

His administration also hacked the phones of AP reporters. So you'll understand when I say its really difficult to take you people and your selective outrage seriously.

you can stop now, most now realize your post is a lie.

 

[Tigerace117]

Given his comments defending white supremacists, you should expect Trump's approval to be in freefall now. But apparently his Gallup rating is pretty stable. Why is that?

The third of the country that supports him doesn't care.

 

[LaylaWindu]

Why, that is as low as Marcon's, who favors the EU.

Your post makes no sense. Typical.

 

[apdst]

Given his comments defending white supremacists, you should expect Trump's approval to be in freefall now. But apparently his Gallup rating is pretty stable. Why is that?

Because the majority of people in America aren't stupid enough to wet themselves about. Most Americans agree that antifa, BLM and the nazis are all human garbage.

 

[jimbo]

Because he already lost everyone who is even remotely open to actual evidence. It's not like this is the first despicable thing Trump's done.

Keep in mind, Trump's approval rating was already one of the lowest in American history. There was only so much further it could fall.

A chunk of that 35% are just blind partisans who would defend an actual pile of feces as long as it had an "R" next to it. A chunk of that 35% are low-information citizens who either don't know, don't care, or don't understand what's going on. A chunk of that 35% are the damn Nazis. A chunk of that 35% are the "alt-light" who aren't Nazis, but still get really riled up about talk of banning Muslims and what have you. And a chunk of that 35% are people who are convinced that literally anything is better than the American normal no matter how bad it is. A chunk of that 35% are just cynical trolls.

All are small percentages on their own, but you add them up, and you can get to 35%.

Basically, there is sort of a floor on how low it can go. It could still get lower if, say, Russia turns into a Watergate, or he actually gets on stage with Richard Spencer, or something else totally crazy (and totally possible). But without a singular, complete nightmare scenario that basically shoves him out of office, we are already at the floor.

Actually you add that number with the intense dislike of the name calling and rhetoric of the left, and you get to 300 + presidential votes vs 230 on the other side.

I expect that will remain true through '20 and beyond.

 

[jimbo]

uhm . . isn't it already like around 33% haha where is it supposed to collapse from there?

It could go as low as Congress. Down close to 20%.

But Democrats fare no better. 50% say Democrats only position is never Trump. Slightly down from early November. When Trump won.

 

[LaylaWindu]

It could go as low as Congress. Down close to 20%.

Haha, true I guess, isn't 20% an "up" for congress

But Democrats fare no better. 50% say Democrats only position is never Trump. Slightly down from early November. When Trump won.

Oh I bet and why should it be, politics is so messed up right now and the bar is so low it's not exactly bragging rights if those on the left think they are currently better than Trump.

 

[Fenton]

The US military Generals and Admirals tied as they are to the military-industrial-complex and whatever nonsense and schemes politicians come up with, like to claim Russia is the greatest existential threat to the United States of America. With both the US and Russia floating nuclear armed subs underwater throughout the world, with nuclear missiles that could wipe out dozens of each others cities, with ICBM nukes both have on their mainland soil capable of not only annihilating each others country but being an existential threat to all life on planet earth...

Charlottesville is a pimple on the butt of the earth. You cupcakes in America go messing with those tough Russians--with your glass jaws and swollen obese rears--the only thing your grandchildren are ever going to have are tears. And that I promise you.

Which raises a question to me about blood and soil and existential threats to any people or land. How did South Africa ever happen to have so many white people? What was or is the existential threat to the Amerindians of the USA? Will not the USA still be the USA if the Federal Government is run by Islamist Turks and Arabs? What about rampant crime and deep internal divisions in a country? Can corporations ever pose an existential threat to the people of a country if the come to own its government and top brass in the military? Putin was behind Charlotteville?

The bolded is absurd. Russia doesn't want to go to war with the US ( NATO ). A few years ago after their economy picked up they entered into a new defense initiative that increase spending exponentially, but since the price of oil dropped Russian defense spending, as well as their economy have been in a tailspin.
Russian has a advantage over NATO when it comes to conventional forces, but only if NATO and the US fights the way Russia wants them too, and thats not going to happen. Russia has ONE Aircraft Carrier in service, the US has 11. The American Sea wolf class and Virgina class are the top 2 attack submarines in the world and the American Ohio class is the best ballistic missile sub in the world.

Im not saying a war with Russia wouldn't get messy, but its absurd to claim they possess some overwhelming advantage over the US. The superiority of the US Military can be traced back to the end of the war when American foreign policy shifted to directly counter the spread of communism. The Truman doctrine set the stage for the next 40 years of American foreign policy and Eisenhower's strategy of increasing US Nuclear stock piles led to a arms race that unofficially ended with the liberation of East Germany. Our NATO allies STILL take advantage of US Military superiority, they're not even meeting their minimum NATO funding requirements

Rants on the military industrial complex like the one above are fairly common, those people having a even cursory understanding of how the US got this way is not common at all

After the war our NATO partners were in ruins, and were highly vulnerable to Soviet incursions. The US was the only Nation that could challenge the soviets, and while Nations like France and England spent their money experimenting with Socialism, the US spent its money on building a military large enough to stop the spread of Communism. The US has spent 30 Trillion dollars since 1949 on Defense spending, on protecting our NATO allies and we've relied on private contracts to come up with new innovations and ongoing technological advancements that exceed the capabilities of other Nations.

Right or wrong, the US Government decided that post war communism was the largest threat worthy of our massive military spending, and our NATO allies were just fine with the US picking up the tab to protect, Canada, Western Europe and then Eastern Europe after the Soviet Union collapsed. No, we dont want to go to war with the Russians, but the Left in America are a highly desperate and ideological bunch. When they say by any means necessary, they mean it. So if they have to continue to manufacture some exaggerated narrative about Russian interference and collusion to score points politically, or to undermine Trump, they will, even if it pushes Russian/US relations to a dangerous all time low.

 

[Fenton]

you can stop now, most now realize your post is a lie.

If its a " lie " then debunk it....if your'e capable

 

[NeverTrump]

About 35to 40% of the country apparently has no trouble with one or more of white nationalism, nativism, ethnocentrism, racialism, and antidemocracy.

I wouldn't go that far, probably 20-25% of the base, the other 10-15% are just hopelessly naive or look at everything from the right wing lens.

 

[ttwtt78640]

You would be surprised how many Confederate sympathizers there are in the south

Not really, having lived below the Mason-Dixon Line for most of my life. What is no surprise is that since they no longer vote demorat they are seen as a problem.

 

[katzgar]

If its a " lie " then debunk it....if your'e capable

It's been debunked so many times there's no point debunking it again. You just want to keep pushing it.

 

[jimbo]

Haha, true I guess, isn't 20% an "up" for congress


Oh I bet and why should it be, politics is so messed up right now and the bar is so low it's not exactly bragging rights if those on the left think they are currently better than Trump.

I picked the numbers up from CNN. Congress I believe has hovered slightly below 20% for a while.

I agree, there are no bragging rights, or lefts, inside the beltway.

 

[Fenton]

It's been debunked so many times there's no point debunking it again. You just want to keep pushing it.

So thats a no then ? Why am I not surprised ?

Why show up and waste valuable bandwidth if all your'e going to do is post spam ?

 

[katzgar]

So thats a no then ? Why am I not surprised ?

Why show up and waste valuable bandwidth if all your'e going to do is post spam ?

:fart

 

[JamesBY]

Not really, having lived below the Mason-Dixon Line for most of my life. What is no surprise is that since they no longer vote demorat they are seen as a problem.

Their racial conservatism is the problem, and, yes, have spent many, many years in the rural South, oh, yeah, really.

 

[JamesBY]

You mean the high water mark ?? And the WORST the Left has on Trump is Russian collusion conspiracy lunacy and something that was conjured out of thin air, his support for White supremacist and neo-nazi's

Obama used the power and authority of federal agencies to target American citizens who dared to challenge his ideology and authority. From the IRS scandal to naming Journalist James Rosen as a criminal co-conspirator under the 1922 Espionage act, AND hacking into his emails and phone records to his NSA illegally unmasking thousands of American citizens for purely political reasons to his DHS illegally hacking into State voter registration databases.

His administration also hacked the phones of AP reporters. So you'll understand when I say its really difficult to take you people and your selective outrage seriously.

Here is a hint for you, Fenton: Obammy ain't president no mo'h.

This is all about Trump, the investigations, his continue failure in leadership, etc. He's hopeless, and the defense of him is hopeless.

 

[Fenton]

Here is a hint for you, Fenton: Obammy ain't president no mo'h.

This is all about Trump, the investigations, his continue failure in leadership, etc. He's hopeless, and the defense of him is hopeless.

Lol ! No, no matter how much you want it to be just about Trump, its never going to be.

People on the Left are going to be challenged whether they like it or not, ( its really easy to do ) and that includes exposing their hypocrisy and their lack of credibillity and character

That also includes exposing your motives, which have far more to do with Political opportunism than they do with a sincere concern for whats moral and ethical and right

If youre not equally outraged, ( for example ) over Obama's decision to name a American journalist as a criminal co-conspirator under the 1922 Espionage act just so they could hack his emails and phone records, then why should anyone take you seriously or even consider your Trump rants ?

Your'e just preaching to the choir, and this glaring hypocrisy and selective outrage as part of a larger attempt to undermine a duly elected President isnt changing peoples minds.

Your not winning Trump supporters over to your side, youre just pissing them off and showing independents just how authortarian the Left can be when it comes to losing elections

 

[JamesBY]

Fenton, in part, in a thread about only Trump, writes, "No, no matter how much you want it to be just about Trump, its never going to be", because he can't defend Trump, and he gets mad because we won't give his Obama riff any credence.