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Why isn't Joe Biden out there defending himself?

Lord of Planar said:
After the millions and millions spent on investigations, and nothing actionable yet?

Think about it for a moment.
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Still less than the $70 million spent by Ken Starr to uncover a lie about a blow job and a semen stained blue dress. Still less than the millions spent in all those investigations into Hillary Clinton. And nothing actionable.

I remember you complaining about the costs of those investigations. Or do I?
 
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tres borrachos said:
I think you meant "Trump's descent into madness". "Trump" and "decent" have never appeared in the same sentence for a reason.
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Yup... I actually think i typed it right but then hit the suggestion word my phone opted up. Uggghh.
 
Lord of Planar said:
This is why you guys elect the wrong people. You are seen as useless, when you let your confirmation bias dictate what fact is, and is not.
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So Bush didn't allow his annual physical to expire? Got it, dude. The only explanations are that Bush was 1) AWOL, 2) drunk or all the time, or 3) loaded-up on coke all the time. Take your pick.

Maybe I'm "useless", but you live in an alternate universe. When Trump goes down, your Repug bubble will no longer protect you. Reality will eventually set in, whether you want it to or not.
 
iguanaman said:
Manafort was Trumps campaign manager and is now in jail for his dealings with oligarchs close to Putin in Ukraine. That was the wrong side you claimed Democrats took.
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I was talking about the illegal activities of the Ukranians. The activities the M$Ms choose to ignore. I specifically said activities prior to Crimea.
 
Kerry Won Ohio said:
So Bush didn't allow his annual physical to expire? Got it, dude. The only explanations are that Bush was 1) AWOL, 2) drunk or all the time, or 3) loaded-up on coke all the time. Take your pick.

Maybe I'm "useless", but you live in an alternate universe. When Trump goes down, your Repug bubble will no longer protect you. Reality will eventually set in, whether you want it to or not.
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With the known lies involving Rathergate, that could be a lie as well.
 
If someone asked Biden about the Ukraine situation, he would reply "Is that our next stop"?

Biden is now the Mr. Magoo of American politics.

yankintx said:
I could not agree more. Why Biden is not out there defending himself is beyond me. I can only assume he is taking this advice from campaign advisors. Its the wrong advice, Joe needs to come out swinging.
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Lord of Planar said:
With the known lies involving Rathergate, that could be a lie as well.
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It was in Bush's military records, dude. It had absolutely nothing to do with what Dan Rather reported. And to this day, Bush has never explained why he allowed his annual physical to expire and allowed himself to be grounded, which no fighter pilot worth anything would ever do.

All of the gloating by you Repugs about Dan Rather does not change the fact that Bush was AWOL.
 
Kerry Won Ohio said:
It was in Bush's military records, dude. It had absolutely nothing to do with what Dan Rather reported. And to this day, Bush has never explained why he allowed his annual physical to expire and allowed himself to be grounded, which no fighter pilot worth anything would ever do.

All of the gloating by you Repugs about Dan Rather does not change the fact that Bush was AWOL.
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If you say so.

That pdf I liked is a clear forgery, and part of the forgery investigation. What other documentation is out there that says he missed a physical?

Please provide it.

Seriously. Prove your claim.

If he never missed a physical, then how do you expect him to say why he missed one?
 
Lord of Planar said:
If you say so.

That pdf I liked is a clear forgery, and part of the forgery investigation. What other documentation is out there that says he missed a physical?

Please provide it.

Seriously. Prove your claim.

If he never missed a physical, then how do you expect him to say why he missed one?
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Read this article:

George W. Bush suspended from Texas Air National Guard, Aug. 1, 1972 - POLITICO

National Air Guard regulations require pilots to pass an annual physical in order to remain in flight status during the three months prior to a pilot’s birthday, in Bush’s case, July 6. Because Bush did not take the exam during this time frame, his commander suspended his flight status. The decision to do so was confirmed by Col. Bobby Hodges on Sept. 5, 1972, and re-confirmed by a National Guard Bureau order on Sept. 29 of that year.
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Are you actually going to claim that Bush's commander, Col Bobby Hodges, did not really suspend him on Sept 5, 1972?

I would stop digging that hole now if I were you.
 
Kerry Won Ohio said:
Read this article:

George W. Bush suspended from Texas Air National Guard, Aug. 1, 1972 - POLITICO




Are you actually going to claim that Bush's commander, Col Bobby Hodges, did not really suspend him on Sept 5, 1972?

I would stop digging that hole now if I were you.
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Yes, a story based on forged documents.

Have the actual documents, or just what a lying journalist says?

Don't you remember the forged documents the news went crazy over, and Dan Rather left CBS disgraced over?
 
Lord of Planar said:
Yes, a story based on forged documents.

Have the actual documents, or just what a lying journalist says?

Don't you remember the forged documents the news went crazy over, and Dan Rather left CBS disgraced over?
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You obviously have no shame. Keep digging that hole deeper.

I'm sure Col Hodges or someone from his Air National Guard unit would have stated that Bush was never grounded, if that was indeed the case. That is not a difficult thing to verify. Yet, for some dishonest reason known only to you, you want to keep yelling "Dan Rather" as if that somehow makes Bush's lousy military record magically go away.
 
SDET said:
If someone asked Biden about the Ukraine situation, he would reply "Is that our next stop"?

Biden is now the Mr. Magoo of American politics.
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He is only eclipsed in his gaffes by the Liar in Chief
 
Kerry Won Ohio said:
You obviously have no shame. Keep digging that hole deeper.

I'm sure Col Hodges or someone from his Air National Guard unit would have stated that Bush was never grounded, if that was indeed the case. That is not a difficult thing to verify. Yet, for some dishonest reason known only to you, you want to keep yelling "Dan Rather" as if that somehow makes Bush's lousy military record magically go away.
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Did you even look at the pdf file I linked?

That is a very obvious forgery. It was not made on any typewriter available in the 70's.

You guys keep repeating these lies that are based on forged documents.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Did you even look at the pdf file I linked?

That is a very obvious forgery. It was not made on any typewriter available in the 70's.

You guys keep repeating these lies that are based on forged documents.
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Your stupid forgery has nothing to do with what I'm saying...Geez.

Why hasn't anyone from the Guard denied that Bush was grounded? Because he was grounded!

Yes, I did look at your dumb document. As I already explained, it's completely irrelevant to what I'm telling you.
 
I get it. You guys want to believe the lies that the leftist pundits put out there. It happens so often, and the Rathergate incident is one that is proven, a series of documents were forged. Dan Rathers own people cautioned him to verify the suspicious documents first, but he was intent of railroading the election, and was canned from CBS.

The left is probably doing this again with Trump, and that is why none of this sticks. Because there is no verifiable information leading back to him.

Now I am inclined to believe the allegations against Biden. Partially because of my confirmation bias, but also because the forgery and other false evidence is a pattern of the left. Not of the right.
 
Kerry Won Ohio said:
Your stupid forgery has nothing to do with what I'm saying...Geez.

Why hasn't anyone from the Guard denied that Bush was grounded? Because he was grounded! Your dumb document is irrelevant!
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Maybe he was. Maybe he had reason. However, that one document I linked is a clear forgery.

Please show me the document you base your accusation on. Please link the interviews of people claiming he was grounded. Without that, you have hear-say. Most likely lies.

This was all over the internet some years back, and proven a man named Killiam, supplied the media with forged documents and lies.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Maybe he was. Maybe he had reason. However, that one document I linked is a clear forgery.

Please show me the document you base your accusation on. Please link the interviews of people claiming he was grounded. Without that, you have hear-say. Most likely lies.

This was all over the internet some years back, and proven a man named Killiam, supplied the media with forged documents and lies.
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Ask the Texas Air National Guard or the Alabama Air National Guard if Bush was grounded. Pick up the phone on Monday morning and call their PR department. Ask them how you can see their official records from 1972. This is truly idiotic.

Killam never claimed that Bush was not grounded, he just claimed that Bush was not AWOL. Bush's freaking commander grounded Bush in 1972 and there is no reason to doubt that simple historical fact.

Are you also going to ask me to prove that Pearl Harbor was bombed on 7 December 1941? Or that Neil Armstrong walked on the moon in 1969?
 
Kerry Won Ohio said:
Ask the Texas Air National Guard or the Alabama Air National Guard if Bush was grounded. Pick up the phone on Monday morning and call their PR department. Ask them how you can see their official records from 1972. This is truly idiotic.

Killam never claimed that Bush was not grounded, he just claimed that Bush was not AWOL. Bush's freaking commander grounded Bush in 1972 and there is no reason to doubt that simple historical fact.

Are you also going to ask me to prove that Pearl Harbor was bombed on 7 December 1941? Or that Neil Armstrong walked on the moon in 1969?
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All you have is allegations. No proof. With all the proven lies of that time period, why should any intelligent person believe your words without solid proof?

Do you really think that your unproven allegations about Bush carry any weight?

I watched the moon landing on TV. We didn't have the technology to fake that back then.

How can anyone think Pearl Harbor didn't happen?

You continue to slander a man with no evidence.

Shame on you. You are a very unethical person.

And Kerry did not win Ohio. They used three tabulations systems. Only one of the three systems, the one most vulnerable to cheating, showed a Kerry win. They other two systems showed a Bush win. Only the modern electronic system showed a Kerry win.
 
Lord of Planar said:
All you have is allegations. No proof. With all the proven lies of that time period, why should any intelligent person believe your words without solid proof?

Do you really think that your unproven allegations about Bush carry any weight?

I watched the moon landing on TV. We didn't have the technology to fake that back then.

How can anyone think Pearl Harbor didn't happen?

You continue to slander a man with no evidence.

Shame on you. You are a very unethical person.

And Kerry did not win Ohio. They used three tabulations systems. Only one of the three systems, the one most vulnerable to cheating, showed a Kerry win. They other two systems showed a Bush win. Only the modern electronic system showed a Kerry win.
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Yeah, I'm "slandering" Bush. Just like his commander did in 1972. LOL!
 
In Franklin county, run by democrats, they decreased the number of voting machines based on prior turnouts. It is estimated that 15,000 votes for Kerry were never made, because of the long lines and time expiring. Bush won Ohio by 118,775 votes.

If counties run by democrats want a democrat to win, they should increase the voting machines. Not decrease them.

Still, only 15,000 assumed lost votes for Kerry.... Bush still wins.
 
This is Joe Biden finally taking some shots. I give him a B. He can do better. He needs to bring up the absurdity of Trump talking about corruption when he hires his daughter and son-in-law to work in the White House with all kinds of conflicts on interest. He needs to bring up Trump's tax returns and his Moscow tower. He needs to bring up all the people around Trump who have been convicted or pleaded guilty.

 
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