Why is abortion acceptable?

[Lursa]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Of course women can enjoy sex and if they accidentally get pregnant and do not want their baby then all they have to do is kill the developing baby and get rid of it.

Is there a reason you would expect a woman having an abortion keep the removed embryo or fetus? That would be irrational. Why do you bring it up?

 

[Logician Man]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

So what is it, are abortionists advocating abortions be legalized for all because some women may get pregnant from rapes? Such rapes resulting in pregnancy are rare, are they not?

Your red herrings and deflections don't work with me, sir.

 

[Bodi]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

And zero humanity.

Total humanity, actually. But maybe you can make an argument instead of what you posted?

 

[Bodi]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

I imagine like cow farting crap.

Do you have an argument to make?

 

[marke]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Is there a reason you would expect a woman having an abortion keep the removed embryo or fetus? That would be irrational. Why do you bring it up?

No, once an unborn baby is sliced into pieces, I do not favor selling those pieces to merchants who trade in aborted baby parts. They should just throw the bloody messes away once they have been ruined.

 

[marke]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Do you have an argument to make?

Don't buy into Obama's and Cortez's cow farting nonsense?

 

[Lursa]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

No, once an unborn baby is sliced into pieces, I do not favor selling those pieces to merchants who trade in aborted baby parts. They should just throw the bloody messes away once they have been ruined.

More of your ignorance? Actually, it's beyond that since you have been informed of reality in the past.

You are lying and using emotional rhetoric because you have clearly not been able to support your view.

97.5% of all abortions consist of a pea-sized or smaller unborn being flushed (whole) painlessly from the womb.

That you dwell on the terrible, sad medically necessary abortions indicates a ghoulish, disgusting fantasy endlessly looping in your mind.

That you dont believe in tissue donation for medical research also indicates a barbaric selfish wasteful perspective.

 

[Bucky]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Really? Now you believe that you or the govt have the right to tell women that they may enjoy sex or not at will?

Absolutely in cases or rape or incest.

Are you telling me women should enjoy sex during these situations? That's absolutely horrific.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Absolutely in cases or rape or incest.

Are you telling me women should enjoy sex during these situations? That's absolutely horrific.

Are you telling me that the majority of women having sex are being raped or involved in sex with family members?

 

[minnie616]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

I,m assuming the facts given here are unassailable:


What really happens during a suction D&C abortion? What really happens during a suction D&C abortion?

Only heard of suction abortion not suction D and C because the C stands for Curettage which means the scraping of the lining of the uterus is scrapped with a special instrument called the curette.

You article even explained

Note that a “D&C” is not always an abortion. Women sometimes need a D&C procedure after suffering a miscarriage or for other health reasons.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

No, once an unborn baby is sliced into pieces, I do not favor selling those pieces to merchants who trade in aborted baby parts. They should just throw the bloody messes away once they have been ruined.

Then why did you write it?

And AGAIN, why shouldnt others benefit from the tragedy of a woman or couple who lost their unborn for medical reasons? That donated tissue may save lives, just like any other tissue or organ donations.

Is there something 'sacred' *you believe* about the tissue? Maybe you have such a belief but any parent that feels the same does not have to consent to that donation then. And yes...all those related to the PP story gave consent.

 

[Bodi]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Don't buy into Obama's and Cortez's cow farting nonsense?

Thanks... your posts display what you contribute quite nicely...

 

[Rickeroo]

You must be looking at older data...today, it's mostly (married/women already with at least one kid) white women having abortions.

You'll have to provide the current data on the bold. The rest of your post is not credible either but it's easy to see where your views come from.

But they are not supported by facts. I can give you plenty of positive things in society that are enabled by abortion. You havent given me a single concrete thing.

The black abortion rate is much higher than the white rate:

Abortion rates by race and ethnicity | Guttmacher Institute

 

[Scrabaholic]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

If the person conducting the procedure is determined to kill the patient.

Very few women die from legal abortion. Even less in my country.

 

[Rickeroo]

You *do* realise that blacks have a higher pregnancy rate, right? And they are more likely to be impoverished.

Of course. Hispanics have 80% the poverty rate of blacks, yet only about at 67% of the black rate. Whites have 40% the poverty rate of blacks, and abort at 37% of the black rate. Given these statistics and adjusting for poverty, Hispanics have the most respect for the unborn.

However, regardless of rate, an abortion mechanically results in one less voter, and alters the good of society for good or ill.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Of course. Hispanics have 80% the poverty rate of blacks, yet only about at 67% of the black rate. Whites have 40% the poverty rate of blacks, and abort at 37% of the black rate. Given these statistics and adjusting for poverty, Hispanics have the most respect for the unborn.

However, regardless of rate, an abortion mechanically results in one less voter, and alters the good of society for good or ill.

Prove that abortion has any effect on society.

 

[Nap]

Prove that abortion has any effect on society.

The lowered birthrate hurts programs like SS that need an ever expanding population to draw from. You need a birthrate of at least 2.0 in order to maintain programs like that, we are currently at 1.80.

 

[minnie616]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

I,m assuming the facts given here are unassailable:


What really happens during a suction D&C abortion? [What]"What about gay fetuses?" Not exactly the gotcha pro-aborts are looking for - Live Action News really happens during a suction D&C abortion?

Only heard of suction abortion not suction D and C because the C stands for Curettage which means the scraping of the lining of the uterus is scrapped with a special instrument called the curette.

You article even explained

Note that a “D&C” is not always an abortion. Women sometimes need a D&C procedure after suffering a miscarriage or for other health reasons.

Only heard it called suction abortion or vacuum aspiration.

Your article was not using the proper name of the procedure. As I said a D & C means scraping the lining. Not vacuuming out the contents.

Suction abortion (also called vacuum aspiration) is the most common type of in-clinic abortion. It uses gentle suction to empty your uterus. It's usually used until about 14-16 weeks after your last period

 

[minnie616]

The lowered birthrate hurts programs like SS that need an ever expanding population to draw from. You need a birthrate of at least 2.0 in order to maintain programs like that, we are currently at 1.80.

What about the impact of all of the opioid deaths of teens to those of middle age?

Don’t you think they are having an impact ?

 

[Irwin Corey]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Total humanity, actually. But maybe you can make an argument instead of what you posted?

Nope, my statement was an excellent rebuttal; thanks.

 

[Bodi]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Nope, my statement was an excellent rebuttal; thanks.

Except that it is wrong... there is lots of humanity involved in the abortion process... but maybe you see humanity in making women slaves and forcing children to be born into poverty and abuse. :shrug:

 

[Irwin Corey]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Except that it is wrong... there is lots of humanity involved in the abortion process... but maybe you see humanity in making women slaves and forcing children to be born into poverty and abuse. :shrug:

Sorry I thought you were arguing against abortion. Please see my post #920.

 

[Nap]

What about the impact of all of the opioid deaths of teens to those of middle age?

Don’t you think they are having an impact ?

Of course, which is one reason we need to end the stupid prohibition of drugs.

 

[Bucky]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Are you telling me that the majority of women having sex are being raped or involved in sex with family members?

Before I can answer that question, I have a question for you.

Can a drunk woman give consent?

Yes or no.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Re: Abortion only applies to the fetus

Before I can answer that question, I have a question for you.

Can a drunk woman give consent?

Yes or no.

You must be drunk otherwise you wouldn't be using the "RARE" case of late term abortion to argue against abortion in general?