Why hasn't any republican started an investigation into Joe Biden?

[danielpalos]

Can anyone answer this question?

Any Congressman can initiate an investigation or ask the DOJ to investigate the Biden's or CrowdStrike. It was done by republicans against Clinton in 2014 over Benghazi which had already had an investigation in 2012.

Any member can begin an investigation, so if they want it so badly, why are we going through all of this? Oh wait, it's because Trump wanted the investigation to come from Ukraine in order to complete two wishes of Trump. Get Biden from rising in the polls and to put the blame on Ukraine for interfering in the 2016 election.

Red herrings by the right wing instead of true witness bearing simply for the sake morality?

 

[Craig234]

Ya, the fact that trump did use any proper, official agencies for his actions, but instead had his 'personal attorney' who is paid not by him but by a Russian oligarch and his henchmen run US foreign policy in Ukraine, tells you all you need to know about how honest his actions are.

 

[HumblePi]

The real question is "Why no Dimocrap has initiated an investigation or asked the DOJ to investigate the Biden's or CrowdStrike." That's a real investigation we all want to know about, as evidenced by this OP.

The simple answer is that there just was no evidence of wrongdoing, that's why Barr didn't stick his nose into it.

 

[Divine_Wind]

The simple answer is that there just was no evidence of wrongdoing, that's why Barr didn't stick his nose into it.

Agreed. If there was a crime there, why hasn't Trump or the DOJ investigated? Why not Congress? Trump has been in office for over 3 years now and they haven't done anything on this except make unsubstantiated claims and tried to influence foreigners to make false claims.

 

[joko104]

Can anyone answer this question?

Any Congressman can initiate an investigation or ask the DOJ to investigate the Biden's or CrowdStrike. It was done by republicans against Clinton in 2014 over Benghazi which had already had an investigation in 2012.

Any member can begin an investigation, so if they want it so badly, why are we going through all of this? Oh wait, it's because Trump wanted the investigation to come from Ukraine in order to complete two wishes of Trump. Get Biden from rising in the polls and to put the blame on Ukraine for interfering in the 2016 election.

It is not possible to investigate the Bidens without Ukraine doing most the investigation since this happened in Ukraine.

Since the greatest criminal offense anyone can commit in the United States is asking for any investigation of any federal politician for graft, bribery, extortion, etc no investigation is possible and would be illegal. Just ask most Democrats on this forum.

 

[smallvoice]

Then push your Republican lawmakers to start one since you obviously feel there is evidence there. See how far it goes.

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No, it's something the "holier than thou" Dims need to do to clean up their own house.

 

[HumblePi]

It is not possible to investigate the Bidens without Ukraine doing most the investigation since this happened in Ukraine.

Since the greatest criminal offense anyone can commit in the United States is asking for any investigation of any federal politician for graft, bribery, extortion, etc no investigation is possible and would be illegal. Just ask most Democrats on this forum.

That's just ridiculous. Of course we could. Why do you think Barr and Durham were flying all over the world? They were looking for dirt on Biden. Our FBI and CIA are partnered with intelligence in most countries.

 

[apdst]

"Might have..." = witch hunt.

Did Trump work with the Russians to rig the 2016 election? No, but you all swore up-n-down that just HAD to be an investigation to find out. Remember that?

I can't wait to watch y'all go ape **** when all this comes back to bite the Democrats in the ass....lol

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Agreed. If there was a crime there, why hasn't Trump or the DOJ investigated? Why not Congress? Trump has been in office for over 3 years now and they haven't done anything on this except make unsubstantiated claims and tried to influence foreigners to make false claims.

You may recall a GOP congressman (Jim Jordan) demanded the answer of AG Sessions regarding Hillary. His answer is classic.

 

[GDViking]

1. I don't think it's true that "Any Congressman can initiate an investigation". Any investigation would have to have the blessing of the Majority Leader. Furthermore, the Congressional investigation would have to be conducted by a committee...with the blessing of the majority leader of that committee...and the committee would have to have congressional jurisdiction. For example, the Senate Indian Affairs committee and its majority leader, Sen. Hoeven, would have no reason or justification to open an investigation to Joe Biden's actions concerning Ukraine during the previous administration.

2. I suppose any Congressman can ask the DOJ to investigate something or other, but the reality is unless that Congressman has a compelling reason or evidence, the DOJ is going to ignore them.

3. But let's look at why, eh? What we are talking about is government officials using their power for personal or political purposes. ALL Congressmen do this and a slew of executive branch officials have done this. (Hillary and her Clinton Foundation, for example) Heck, just look at the House Dems...making **** up about the President for no other reason than to generate negative media attention to affect the upcoming election. Also, think about how many Congressmen...from both chambers and both parties...are personally enriched by taking positions that are advantageous to people, corporations and organizations with deep pockets. None of those Congressmen want attention to such actions...even if the person being looked at hasn't been one of them...a Congressman...for over a decade.

4. And the DOJ isn't going to push this issue, either. They don't want any backlash in the form of congressional oversight if they were to get serious about corruption. Case in point: James Wolfe and his slap on the wrist.

I didn't read all of that but as someone who has been the start of a congressional investigation I can assure you that they can open an investigation for any reason...

 

[Divine_Wind]

You may recall a GOP congressman (Jim Jordan) demanded the answer of AG Sessions regarding Hillary. His answer is classic.

LOL. Thanks....and it helps explain why Sessions was fired and replaced with a bigger suck-up. :mrgreen:

 

[Stealers Wheel]

LOL. Thanks....and it helps explain why Sessions was fired and replaced with a bigger suck-up. :mrgreen:

The point is, that is why there is no 'investigation' of the Bidens. There is no 'factual basis' for an investigation.

If an investigation were to be conducted, it would render no indictable evidence. And if they were to go forward, the courts would rip the DOJ seven ways to Sunday.

 

[Lord of Planar]

ONE MORE TIME!!! FOR YOU!! Do you SERIOUSLY believe that a former Vice President would appear on stage, being filmed, in front of a live audience to admit he committed a crime?!! TRY READING!

Biden and Obama weren't blackmailing the Ukraine. They weren't trying to 'get their way'. Joe Biden was the spearhead for the many nations of the EU and for the IMF that wanted Ukraine's prosecutor Viktor Shulkin removed because he wasn't prosecuting Burisma as he was supposed to be doing. Viktor Shulkin was corrupt as many in Ukraine were and still are. As soon as Shulkin was removed, the Burisma investigation commenced. This is why the company founder, Zlochevsky fled the country once Shulkin was removed and because Ukraine's new prosecutor general opened multiple investigations into Zlochesky and his businesses, including suspicion of tax evasion and money laundering.

There were a total of 15 investigations on Burisma's owner Zlochevsky!! In October 2019, Prosecutor General Ruslan Riaboshapka announced that all 15 investigation cases will be reviewed. Without a doubt, this 'review' is at the urging of Trump. So if Ukraine is already doing an investigation, why did Trump pressure Zelensky to do one specifically on the Bidens?

Believe the lies.

 

[HumblePi]

Believe the lies.

Keep telling that to yourself. You won't acknowledge truth.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Keep telling that to yourself. You won't acknowledge truth.

Have a witness that under cross examination was not destroyed?

 

[roguenuke]

No, it's something the "holier than thou" Dims need to do to clean up their own house.

No you are the one who believes there is enough evidence there to actually investigate so it should be you who pushes for such an investigation.

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[Lord of Planar]

I would like for people to listen to the whole half hour of this video, but if you are like me, you likely will not. Therefore, a few time indexes...

for very short attention spans or time, start at 26:34

If you have a little more time, start at 25:44. Better yet, start at 17:56.

The whole video is optimum, but at least listen for under a minute starting at 26:34.



Then... This is good too:

R. Hunter will be in charge of the Holding's legal unit and will support international organizations....​

Burisma Announces Hunter Biden's Appointment to the Board (May 12, 2014)

Hunter joined the board as a non-executive director, meaning he was an independent board member and not a member of the management team. At no time was Hunter in charge of the company’s legal affairs. Like all Burisma directors, Hunter was compensated for his board service.​

A Statement on behalf of Hunter Biden, dated October 13, 2019

 

[snakestretcher]

They're all padnuhs. That's why. Are you saying he did nothing wrong?

Did he? If you have evidence that he did I'm sure your feds would be delighted to hear from you because it appears nobody, except Trump, is particularly interested in him.

 

[apdst]

Did he? If you have evidence that he did I'm sure your feds would be delighted to hear from you because it appears nobody, except Trump, is particularly interested in him.

That's why there needs to be an investigation.

 

[jnug]

The surest sign that this whole Biden in Ukraine dust up is just a smear campaign is that the GOP with the power to do so in the moment and even after it started no oversight investigation of Joe Biden in Ukraine and there has not been a DOJ case opened even by Bill Barr's or Jeff Sessions DOJ's.

the entire dust up happened as Joe Biden became a candidate for the nomination for President of the Dem Party. Trump wanted to smear him, to tamp him down as a potential candidate in order to enhance Trump's own chances to win reelection. Did an American led investigation by agencies of government even go forward then. NOPE. Drunken Rudy and his goon squad went forward under Trumpkin's direction.

Some of you folks want an authoritarian, criminal government, FINE. At least acknowledge it honestly and stop flying an American flag over your nonsense. If anything put up a blue/white/red horizontal bars flag and be done with it. Then we can at least duke it out honestly.

Now we have actual lawyers on the floor of the Senate claiming that election interference by foreign governments, not election meddling but election interference is just fine and an American President using the powers of his office to compel election interference by foreign governments not foreigners but actual foreign governments, whether friend or foe is just fine.

Welcome to Amerika where the experiment of democracy begin over 200 years ago is dying.

 

[Divine_Wind]

Have a witness that under cross examination was not destroyed?

Four of them: Trump, Rudy, Bolton and Pompeo. Of course they won’t show up and the Republicans are protecting them so We, the People will have to wait a decade or two for the truth to come out.

 

[Divine_Wind]

That's why there needs to be an investigation.

I support investigating any indications of corruption in our government. The problem is, the Republicans only brought this up based on a debunked conspiracy theory by Trump, just like his debunked conspiracy theory about Obama not being a citizen.

Why the interest now instead of when Biden was VP or when Trump first took office? My guess is to derail away from Trump’s crimes.

Why do Trumpettes only seek to investigate Democrats and not Republicans?

 

[ashurbanipal]

1. I don't think it's true that "Any Congressman can initiate an investigation". Any investigation would have to have the blessing of the Majority Leader. Furthermore, the Congressional investigation would have to be conducted by a committee...with the blessing of the majority leader of that committee...and the committee would have to have congressional jurisdiction. For example, the Senate Indian Affairs committee and its majority leader, Sen. Hoeven, would have no reason or justification to open an investigation to Joe Biden's actions concerning Ukraine during the previous administration.

The Senate, being in control of Republicans, has all Republican-chaired committees. Lindsey Graham is the chair of the judiciary committee, for example, and Richard Burr chairs the intelligence committee. So there seems to be no such obstacle here.

2. I suppose any Congressman can ask the DOJ to investigate something or other, but the reality is unless that Congressman has a compelling reason or evidence, the DOJ is going to ignore them.

So, are you saying that there's no compelling reason or evidence? Because the narrative on the right is that it's just [I}obvious[/I] that Biden/Burisma are corrupt and should be investigated. If that's true, then there should be a compelling reason. If there's no compelling reason, on the other hand, then no one should believe the aforementioned narrative.

3. But let's look at why, eh? What we are talking about is government officials using their power for personal or political purposes. ALL Congressmen do this and a slew of executive branch officials have done this. (Hillary and her Clinton Foundation, for example) Heck, just look at the House Dems...making **** up about the President for no other reason than to generate negative media attention to affect the upcoming election. Also, think about how many Congressmen...from both chambers and both parties...are personally enriched by taking positions that are advantageous to people, corporations and organizations with deep pockets. None of those Congressmen want attention to such actions...even if the person being looked at hasn't been one of them...a Congressman...for over a decade.

Well, this may be true. However, you are generalizing where you should be a lot more specific. "Using power for political purposes" names a certain category of actions some of which are bad/evil/corrupt and some of which are not. It's not that Trump used his power for political purposes--he does that every time he holds a re-election rally, and Presidents should be able to do that. Asking a foreign government to interfere by opening a bogus investigation into a political rival is, however, wrong and should not be allowed, for two reasons: first, no foreign power should interfere in any way in our elections, and second, because it's based, by definition, on a lie.

4. And the DOJ isn't going to push this issue, either. They don't want any backlash in the form of congressional oversight if they were to get serious about corruption. Case in point: James Wolfe and his slap on the wrist.

Uhhh...Wolfe pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. I have no idea what this would have to do with the topic.

 

[Divine_Wind]

I would like for people to listen to the whole half hour of this video, but if you are like me, you likely will not. Therefore, a few time indexes...

for very short attention spans or time, start at 26:34

If you have a little more time, start at 25:44. Better yet, start at 17:56.

The whole video is optimum, but at least listen for under a minute starting at 26:34.



Then... This is good too:

R. Hunter will be in charge of the Holding's legal unit and will support international organizations....​

Burisma Announces Hunter Biden's Appointment to the Board (May 12, 2014)

Hunter joined the board as a non-executive director, meaning he was an independent board member and not a member of the management team. At no time was Hunter in charge of the company’s legal affairs. Like all Burisma directors, Hunter was compensated for his board service.​

A Statement on behalf of Hunter Biden, dated October 13, 2019

I have not seen anyone deny Hunter being given an overly-cushy and eye-brow raising job at the corrupt Burisma. That said, Hunter is an adult and free to legally take any job offered. Even if, and I suspect they did, corrupt individuals in Ukraine sought to influence Joe Biden by giving his son a sweet, sweet job, an attempted bribe is not the same as an accepted bribe. If Joe Biden was suspected of corruption or bribery, why wasn’t he investigated at the time? None of the information about Hunter, Joe or Burisma was unknown when he was VP over three years ago. Is this proof Trump and the Party of Trump are incompetent fools who are so idiotic it took them over three years to suspect this?


BTW, it appears Pam is guilty of deceitfulness by omission: Fact check: 4 things Trump's attorney left out of her arguments about Biden and Burisma - CNNPolitics

 

[Lord of Planar]

Four of them: Trump, Rudy, Bolton and Pompeo. Of course they won’t show up and the Republicans are protecting them so We, the People will have to wait a decade or two for the truth to come out.

Will they make the same claims under oath?