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Why Do Republicans Consider Themselves Conservatives

Why Do Republicans Consider Themselves Conservatives

  • Fiscal

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • Social

    Votes: 13 86.7%

  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .
i didnt vote for either in 2016

and i probably wont vote top of ticket in 2020 if trump is on ticket

when you have a choice of a **** sandwich and a turd sandwich, i chose not to eat

Tell me...did you go to work this morning like an adult or sleep in and get fired? Both those choices sound ****ty to me. Did you eat either of those sandwiches?
 
I still want to know what do conservatives conserve?

The GOP is fighting like hell to try to get back to the fifties.

I grew up in the 50s/60s. I say I lean conservative in my profile, but I seem to have more libertarian type views. In some ways I'm considered conservative, like I'm a bible believing Christian, but some call me liberal as I don't believe government should poke it's nose in a citizens personal decisions like abortion. I am against it, I consider it murder, in most cases, but that's between them and God. I believe in the absolute right to keep and bear arms. I believe all drugs should be legal . I'm against the death penalty. I don't believe women belong in combat, Police, or fire dept. I was a marine, and a firefighter. When I first came on the job there was only a few women in my whole department. By the time I retired, I'll bet they were 25% of the dept. Of the ones I worked with, only one I knew could do the jobs bare minimum requirements the way they should and can be done. I believe gays should have the same benefits that straights enjoy in marriage, but I don't believe gays should be married in a Christian ceremony. I don't believe it should be illegal, I just wouldn't be a member of a church that did that. But then, I've yet to see a church that teaches everything from the bible, so, it is what it is. Long story short, I believe we should be free to do what we want as long as it doesn't infringe on another citizens liberty/freedom. So, I am a registered republican now. Am I conservative? lol
 
I have always wondered why they claimed that title while running up trillions of dollars in debt.

Do Republicans just ignore the fiscal side of conservatism and focus on church, abortion, hating gays and other issues. Is that what conservatism means to republicans?

Your whole posts shows nothing but ignorance.
 
No, they are not. You just want it to be that way. Conservatives vote for conservatives, which means they are not voting for Republicans or Democrats any longer unless they have a very long track record. It is the anti-American leftists who are electing Republicans and Democrats these days, not conservatives. Regardless of the size of the text you immaturely decide to use.

Leftists other than a small percentage of entitled bernie bros tend to not vote republican.
 
I know that you don't let pesky trivialities like facts get in the way of your grand statements, but isn't it odd that the party of diversity is almost all white, while the party that demands total uniformity is white, black Hispanic, Asian etc?
Uniformity of thought...... If you are black, Hispanic, female, gay ect and you do not toe the progressive line you are beaten (figuratively sometimes literally ) about the head and shoulders. Kayne West, Tiger Woods, Milo, Sarah Sanders, Clarence Thomas, Alan West, Ben Carson and so on.........

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The only way to cut spending is to shut down government.... for that Republicans would needs balls.

In 2020 when Republicans have the house Senate and presidency maybe Senate Republicans will totally schittcan the 60 vote threshold and we will get a budget.



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because the other option is democrat, and watching SJW's on twitter jeer conservatives for losing. I'd vote republican on that alone to be honest, no regret.

I find social media often doesnt represent the reality of day to day life.
 
The Republican Party is the party of diversity of ideas, priorities and values, not the Democratic Party. There are social conservatives, economic conservatives, isolationists, warhawks, nationalists, evangelicals, atheists, traditionalists, law and order, and numerous other focuses individual Republicans have.

The Democratic Party demands Jim Jones levels of total submission to the finest detail of whatever the Democratic Party is hawking today - which might be the diametric opposition of what it was hawking yesterday.

The difference is as easy to understand as the fact that nothing the Republican bosses and rightwing MSM could say or do - and no matter how much money spent - could force Republicans to accept being ordered to nominated Jeb Bush. Even though most Democrats really didn't like Hilary Clinton, the Democratic Party and leftwing MSM/press was able to successfully order Democrats to vote for her anyway. Nothing more demonstrates that the vast majority of Republicans are independent thinkers - and the majority of Democrat voters are not.

:lamo. Everyone except fox news is fake news!
 
Uniformity of thought...... If you are black, Hispanic, female, gay ect and you do not toe the progressive line you are beaten (figuratively sometimes literally ) about the head and shoulders. Kayne West, Tiger Woods, Milo, Sarah Sanders, Clarence Thomas, Alan West, Ben Carson and so on.........

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:lamo. Milo got a lot of just deserts though many went overboard for sure. Michael Steel was trashed and bashed on his way out by his own party.
 
In 2012, because of my revulsion over Rick Santorum saying a baby from rape was a gift from God, a rightwing radio talk host told me that the Republican party didn't need me.

I hung around in the GOP for a little longer anyway .....
 
Neither party has ever been concerned with it qhen they are in power. Besides, a balanced budget and illegal abotion would be deadly to the GOP as they would have nothing to run on.

Actually, the real reason no one ever really tries to balance the budget is because it means either huge tax increases or gigantic cuts or a combination of both and no one in government has the cojones to do it. Why? Because they know its a truly stupid idea that would end up disastrous for us and our way of life. As for the abortion thing, I think none of them really thought it would ever get to the point where a court might actually overturn Roe so it was good red meat for the base. Now that it might actually happen, they are going for broke in one last gasp of right wing extremism before the world turns them out on their lily white asses.
 
Today's so-called Republicans in Congress are not the traditional social/fiscal Republicans.

Nor are they "the rule of law" or "family values" Republicans.

Trump Republicans are nothing like traditional Republicans. They are a different (and inferior) political creature altogether.
 
Leftists other than a small percentage of entitled bernie bros tend to not vote republican.

If you are voting for a Republican who has been in Congress for less than 20 years you are voting for a leftist. There is absolutely no difference between a Sen. Lisa Murkowski and Sen. Bernie Sanders, even their voting record is almost identical. Anyone who thinks by voting for a Republican they are voting for a conservative (unless that Republican has been a Republican for 20+ years) is fooling themselves. They are actually voting for an anti-American leftist. They might as well be voting for a Democrat, because there is no difference. Trump and Pelosi have more in common than they will admit because both are leftists.
 
If you are voting for a Republican who has been in Congress for less than 20 years you are voting for a leftist. There is absolutely no difference between a Sen. Lisa Murkowski and Sen. Bernie Sanders, even their voting record is almost identical. Anyone who thinks by voting for a Republican they are voting for a conservative (unless that Republican has been a Republican for 20+ years) is fooling themselves. They are actually voting for an anti-American leftist. They might as well be voting for a Democrat, because there is no difference. Trump and Pelosi have more in common than they will admit because both are leftists.

ummmm.... whut? Thats silly. No republican is for dismantling capitalism and pushing for the workers to own the means of production.
 
ummmm.... whut? Thats silly. No republican is for dismantling capitalism and pushing for the workers to own the means of production.

That is because they are pushing for government to control the means of production, as in true socialism. Which is why the current batch of Republicans support the unconstitutional nationalization of healthcare.
 
Conservative Republican

Just as much BS as Rush Limbaugh on talk radio

These guys have one goal in mind. Enriching their donor base.

They use the Rush Limbaugh model to get those deplorables behind them. In reality their voters disgust them. Everything they do is to keep them under their control.
 
I wish Republicans were more old school fiscally conservative. But they learned from Democrats that promising all kinds of stuff that doesn't have to be paid for by tax increases, or that the increase will be on somebody else, is a great marketing tool for getting votes. BOTH party's now spend and spend, they just have different ideas of how to spend.

We need conservatives, both fiscal and social. We need liberals (Democrats). In a functioning system the balance each other out. Of course, we don't have a functioning system. What we have is winner take all, and to hell with the other side.

Most of the social progress we've made in the past 60 years has been through Democrat movements. Unions, civil rights, cleaning up the environment, etc. All good things. But like all good things, the Democrats take it to the extreme, and conservatives are there to put the brakes on.

Unions have been great for this country. Great for working people. But then unions grow powerful enough, especially public unions, to coerce huge unfair (to the taxpayer) benefit and retirement packages. Then you are left with the California or Illinois nightmare.

My friend Ernie worked for years at the big TWA overhaul base in Kansas City. He was a sheet metal mechanic. If his work was slack he wasn't allowed to pick up a broom and sweep up the shop. He couldn't help out in any other department. Against the contract rules. TWA didn't care if the flight attendants went on strike. But they had to cave to the skilled trades unions or the planes wouldn't fly. The skilled workers were just too hard to replace. So they got work rules that were extremely restrictive. TWA eventually moved the overhaul base out of the country. Most airline maintenance is now done somewhere else.

Unions are a good thing but not to extremes.

The fight over immigration is also an example. Immigration is a good thing. But Democrats are locked into open borders because they have to pander to their base. A country can only assimilate a reasonable number of immigrants per year, and we are in danger of being over run. Immigrant caravans are not a good thing. Too many immigrants puts tremendous pressure on social services, the education system, law enforcement and health services.

In short, Democrats have good ideas, and should get a lot of credit, but we need conservatives to keep them grounded, and fiscally responsible. Of course, that would require both sides to quit calling each other names and act like grown-ups. That ain't gonna happen.

But it has to happen, because otherwise it really does end in civil war, or anarchy.
We cannot afford to just say that the nation is ungovernable.
Thank you for the extremely well written post. :applaud
 
I wish Republicans were more old school fiscally conservative. But they learned from Democrats that promising all kinds of stuff that doesn't have to be paid for by tax increases, or that the increase will be on somebody else, is a great marketing tool for getting votes. BOTH party's now spend and spend, they just have different ideas of how to spend.

We need conservatives, both fiscal and social. We need liberals (Democrats). In a functioning system the balance each other out. Of course, we don't have a functioning system. What we have is winner take all, and to hell with the other side.

Most of the social progress we've made in the past 60 years has been through Democrat movements. Unions, civil rights, cleaning up the environment, etc. All good things. But like all good things, the Democrats take it to the extreme, and conservatives are there to put the brakes on.

Unions have been great for this country. Great for working people. But then unions grow powerful enough, especially public unions, to coerce huge unfair (to the taxpayer) benefit and retirement packages. Then you are left with the California or Illinois nightmare.

My friend Ernie worked for years at the big TWA overhaul base in Kansas City. He was a sheet metal mechanic. If his work was slack he wasn't allowed to pick up a broom and sweep up the shop. He couldn't help out in any other department. Against the contract rules. TWA didn't care if the flight attendants went on strike. But they had to cave to the skilled trades unions or the planes wouldn't fly. The skilled workers were just too hard to replace. So they got work rules that were extremely restrictive. TWA eventually moved the overhaul base out of the country. Most airline maintenance is now done somewhere else.

Unions are a good thing but not to extremes.

The fight over immigration is also an example. Immigration is a good thing. But Democrats are locked into open borders because they have to pander to their base. A country can only assimilate a reasonable number of immigrants per year, and we are in danger of being over run. Immigrant caravans are not a good thing. Too many immigrants puts tremendous pressure on social services, the education system, law enforcement and health services.

In short, Democrats have good ideas, and should get a lot of credit, but we need conservatives to keep them grounded, and fiscally responsible. Of course, that would require both sides to quit calling each other names and act like grown-ups. That ain't gonna happen.
Well said. A very thoughtful and logical post. Well done.
 
I grew up in the 50s/60s. I say I lean conservative in my profile, but I seem to have more libertarian type views. In some ways I'm considered conservative, like I'm a bible believing Christian, but some call me liberal as I don't believe government should poke it's nose in a citizens personal decisions like abortion. I am against it, I consider it murder, in most cases, but that's between them and God. I believe in the absolute right to keep and bear arms. I believe all drugs should be legal . I'm against the death penalty. I don't believe women belong in combat, Police, or fire dept. I was a marine, and a firefighter. When I first came on the job there was only a few women in my whole department. By the time I retired, I'll bet they were 25% of the dept. Of the ones I worked with, only one I knew could do the jobs bare minimum requirements the way they should and can be done. I believe gays should have the same benefits that straights enjoy in marriage, but I don't believe gays should be married in a Christian ceremony. I don't believe it should be illegal, I just wouldn't be a member of a church that did that. But then, I've yet to see a church that teaches everything from the bible, so, it is what it is. Long story short, I believe we should be free to do what we want as long as it doesn't infringe on another citizens liberty/freedom. So, I am a registered republican now. Am I conservative? lol

Yes, you are a conservative. You have many views that democrats have and yet you also still have views that don't give equal rights to all people in all situations. Take your idea of marriage. First off, a church marriage, the church that probably teaches god loves us all...except gays? I don't buy into that idea. You also still seem to hold the idea women are second class citizens in some instances. I personally think/feel religion warps people's thinking. Does a church make a marriage legal or does a state make it legal? I give you credit for not falling into the turn your brain off like so many other conservatives and just follow the talking points of your leadership.
 
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