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Why Do Liberals Question HCQ?

Why Do Liberals Question HCQ?

  • Liberals Need Biden to Win At All Costs

    Votes: 14 77.8%

  • Liberals Are Being Brainwashed By CNN

    Votes: 2 11.1%

  • Liberals Are Familiar With All Studies on HCQ, But Believe Certain Studies Over Others

    Votes: 1 5.6%

  • Liberals Are Being Brainwashed By Fauci

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Liberals Are Not Aware That Many Anti-HCQ Studies Have Been Retracted

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Total voters
    18
ReubenSherr said:
Approximately half of the studies, both clinical and observational, that have been done so far on HCQ have indicated that it is effective in treating COVID, and saves lives. Another half have indicated that HCQ is ineffective.

Nearly all studies have indicated that HCQ is safe, with no dangerous side effects.

Why do liberals believe half of the studies, and question the other half?
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Nonsense. Its more like a couple of initial small studies have been obliterated by large scale 30,000+ studies and it does bupkiss as a prophylaxis or treatment.

What's the real agenda here? It must be to prevent anyone for figuring out your Dear Leader and this idiot son in law bought 64 million doses of the stuff on the if come and its now sitting on a shelf. Rest easy during the next malaria pandemic.
 
ReubenSherr said:
I posted 3 studies in Post 16, and a couple anecdotal accounts. I will post more. They are harder to find, because liberal media outlets hit the same 2 or 3 studies over and over and the other ones get buried in search engines.
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Anecdotal is rubbish in this. You can barely scrape up a couple of questionable studies and blame the media- are you saying Fox is in on this??? (they are the link to the Ford study) I'd say all the rabid right bloggers would be on the HCQ mailing list and have the 'myriad' of studies that show HCQ is effective (the best your Yale Doctor could say is maybe effective BEFORE infection) ZERO mention of the proven heart issues that can and HAS BEEN fatal... :doh

Your poll shows an incrediable amount of right wing bias... 'brain washed' by Fauci??? :confused:

How about listening the one of the premier medical experts in the field who has a pile of studies showing hcq isn't worth the risks... :peace
 
vegas giants said:
Half? No way anyone should take a drug that only half the studies say it works when some of them say it also has serious side effects.


Holy cow that is bad medicine
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You got it. It's like saying: Studies have shown that Acme Motor company's new V8 Turbo Town-car has been proven to stop at intersections over 50 percent of the time!" :)
 
ReubenSherr said:
Approximately half of the studies, both clinical and observational, that have been done so far on HCQ have indicated that it is effective in treating COVID, and saves lives. Another half have indicated that HCQ is ineffective.

Nearly all studies have indicated that HCQ is safe, with no dangerous side effects.

Why do liberals believe half of the studies, and question the other half?
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Oh look, another right-wing, "When will you stop beating your wife?" hack poll.

DISMISSED
 
I’d not like to risk heart failure over something a lot less effective.
 
ReubenSherr said:
I’m not the one complaining and crying about biased polls.
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Thank you for proving my point about dishing it out and refusing to take it. You're 0-for-3, keep swinging! :lamo
 
ReubenSherr said:
I won’t subscribe to the NEJM, don’t worry.
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Nobody asked you to. You can also stop peddling nonsense and getting butthurt about the NJEM telling it like it is. Calling a spade a spade.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Approximately half of the studies, both clinical and observational, that have been done so far on HCQ have indicated that it is effective in treating COVID, and saves lives. Another half have indicated that HCQ is ineffective.

Nearly all studies have indicated that HCQ is safe, with no dangerous side effects.

Why do liberals believe half of the studies, and question the other half?
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Because neither medicine nor diseases care about politics.

Hydroxycloroquine is an antimalarial. Malaria is a protozoan parasite, not a virus. Hydroxycloroquine works by interfering with the digestive process of the parasite. As a side effect it also suppresses certain parts of the human immune response which is why it is used to treat auto immune diseases like lupus and arthritis.

Scientists found that in a test tube, hydroxycloroquine prevented the virus from entering and multiplying in human cells. But you're not a test tube. Drugs do not work the same inside the body as they do outside in the lab. They can also affect lots of important things. But since HQ was already approved and having relatively low toxicity it was a good reason to fast track trials. But even though there were plenty of reasons why it might work there are also plenty of other reasons why it would be dangerous to give a patient suffering from a virus an immune suppressant that also is known to cause heart problems.

Covid 19 is a tough bugger. The single best defense we have is our immune system. It also appears that our immune system is one of the leading causes of bad outcomes. So we need an antiviral that directly targets Covid and/or an immune suppressant that targets the bad response but leaves the good one.

Science is hard work. Probably good enough doesn't cut it. You need to have the education to understand what scientific rigor is and have the patience to meet it.. and even then there are a lot of mistakes. So polluting the public discourse with stuff like hydroxycloroquine takes very limited resources away from other more promising approaches.

HQ is certainly dangerous to some patients, it is also safe for most. It's possible that some patients get some benefit, but its' more likely that it's a sugar pill with nasty side effects. There are other treatments known to work significantly better. There is no rational reason to continue to pursue a guaranteed less effective medication except for politics.
 
 
Why do liberals question disinfectants and uv light? Demon seeds and cell phones?
 
avatar said:
Got any real studies?
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No just anecdotes and faith. Never mind that everyone in the medical field knows that HCQ prolongs the QT interval and cause tdp
 
ReubenSherr said:
Approximately half of the studies, both clinical and observational, that have been done so far on HCQ have indicated that it is effective in treating COVID, and saves lives. Another half have indicated that HCQ is ineffective.

Nearly all studies have indicated that HCQ is safe, with no dangerous side effects.

Why do liberals believe half of the studies, and question the other half?
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It’s become a political drug because big pharma pays big bucks for protection from cheap, past patent drugs. They want to charge the taxpayers and insurance companies full boat for a new med. They don’t get rich on the cheap generic stuff.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Approximately half of the studies, both clinical and observational, that have been done so far on HCQ have indicated that it is effective in treating COVID, and saves lives. Another half have indicated that HCQ is ineffective.

Nearly all studies have indicated that HCQ is safe, with no dangerous side effects.

Why do liberals believe half of the studies, and question the other half?
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where do you get the idea it is safe with no known side effects? It causes organ failure.
 
ClaraD said:
where do you get the idea it is safe with no known side effects? It causes organ failure.
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Do you have a source?

Thousands of patients studied over the course of the past 2 months, no reports of any dangerous side effects.

The early NEJM study was retracted/criticized by its own publishers.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Do you have a source?

Thousands of patients studied over the course of the past 2 months, no reports of any dangerous side effects.

The early NEJM study was retracted/criticized by its own publishers.
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You are posting fake news
 
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