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Why do gays (not straights) think everyone should know about their sexuality?

So you lied about someone making the claim that babies knew their sexual orientations when they were born?

You quoted a previous post of mine that quoted someone else's garbage notion that babies are born gay. I'm not gonna point out a post that you can easily find yourself with a few clicks. I don't placate laziness.

Got it. FYI, next time just admit your error instead of embarrassing yourself.

You embarrass yourself by even responding to me with garbage.
 
You quoted a previous post of mine that quoted someone else's garbage notion that babies are born gay. I'm not gonna point out a post that you can easily find yourself with a few clicks. I don't placate laziness.



You embarrass yourself by even responding to me with garbage.

Yes, babies are born gay, straight, transgender, or bisexual. And you made a very terrible rebuttal to that as if you think that proves anything.
 
Yes, babies are born gay, straight, transgender, or bisexual.

So babies come out of the womb telling parents and doctors they're not heterosexual? :lamo

And you made a very terrible rebuttal to that as if you think that proves anything.

You mean I made a fantastic rebuttal to unrealistic trash that is not based on science.
 
Yes, babies are born gay, straight, transgender, or bisexual. And you made a very terrible rebuttal to that as if you think that proves anything.

I am pretty sure that we are born with brain wiring that influences our sexual orientation and gender identity, but I am also pretty sure that nurture can influence the expression and adoption of those factors in SOME individuals. The degree of plasticity varies by individual, but some will become straight or gay regardless of upbringing. And others, perhaps borderline, will adopt the identity and orientation to which he/she is enculturated with.

Cognitive development starts in the womb and continues into one's early 20s. It starts with genetics, is then shaped by womb hormones, and further shaped in early imprinting. (Perhaps best illustrated by the early imprinting of male children in Rome being subjected to sexual "abuse" by adult males, whose own desires had been imprinted in their childhood abuse).

In other words, "it depends".
 
I am pretty sure that we are born with brain wiring that influences our sexual orientation and gender identity, but I am also pretty sure that nurture can influence the expression and adoption of those factors in SOME individuals. The degree of plasticity varies by individual, but some will become straight or gay regardless of upbringing. And others, perhaps borderline, will adopt the identity and orientation to which he/she is enculturated with.

Cognitive development starts in the womb and continues into one's early 20s. It starts with genetics, is then shaped by womb hormones, and further shaped in early imprinting. (Perhaps best illustrated by the early imprinting of male children in Rome being subjected to sexual "abuse" by adult males, whose own desires had been imprinted in their childhood abuse).

In other words, "it depends".

Then it becomes fully fixed. Transgender children know they're different as early as 2 for example.
 
Then it becomes fully fixed. Transgender children know they're different as early as 2 for example.

But to say they are "transgender" is to assume that the fixing process ceases at 2 years old - it does not.

One of the earliest debates in cultural anthropology and sociology was over the role of nurture vs. nature. After the experience of Nazism and the eugenics movement, the "progressive" and "modern" view in the 1950s was that ALL sexual desires and identities were socially created - hence the work of Margaret Mead. The "table rosa" model remained robust in the 60s and was the orthodoxy I was taught. To claim that anything came from nature was considered reactionary.

Needless to say, this view somewhat backfired in the 1970s and 80s when gay liberation started claiming they were "born that way" and to suggest otherwise was sexist. Herein is the contradiction of political bias - for women "being born that way" was counterproductive to their goals, for gays it was considered productive towards their goals of acceptance.

My own view, which is supported by plenty of case studies, is that all human behavior is a combination of nature and nurture; be it IQ or propensity to crime or sexual orientation. One of classic studies of sexual identity are those whose sex is determined as ambiguous at birth, and are raised as one of the sex's. In one example a large group of XY males were surgically "corrected" and raised as females and initially thought of themselves as female. The result was that at least half (perhaps more) eventually identified themselves as male by the time they reached adulthood. On the other hand, half of the XY "girls" remained "girls".

So yes, nurture can influence results but so can nature. And until one reach's maturity, the "right" sex won't be known.

PS - I should add that Margaret Mead was an icon in cultural anthropology. We had to read her work and it was accepted as gospel. Decades later, after I graduated, it turned out much or most of it was fraudulent.
 
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Is it any wonder fewer and fewer people describe themselves as religious? Thankfully humans are an animal first, or we would have gone extinct eons ago.

Even the Bible compares some humans to beasts.
 
So infants are coming out of the womb knowing they're gay? LOL



Gays been had rights, they just wanted extra.
Hate all you want. SSM is legal. Deal with it :)
 
You rarely see Straight Pride parades, although I did hear of one not long ago... :)

But you are always and forever hearing of gay pride parades

please

you pride yourself on your perversity?

o, but it's not perverse, they will tell you

well, you think your way and I will think mine. I have something o ther than my own thoughts & religion, though.. reality

Whenever there is a murder of a single man, the first thing police look for is: his gay boyfriend (as suspect). They think of this even though there may be no evidence the guy was gay (a lot of gays obviously like to stay in the closet)

Then there is the stat that many gays are unhappy and depressed..

If I am not mistaken more gays commit suicide than straights... like way more..

There is something in all humans that rebels against what is unnatural and perverse.. It's just that some do not listen to t hat.. go against that regardless

A better question is why you are attending so many of those parades?

Frankly, I've never seen any gay rights parade so I'll have to take your eye witness testimony at face value. :)
 
You rarely see Straight Pride parades, although I did hear of one not long ago... :)

But you are always and forever hearing of gay pride parades

please

you pride yourself on your perversity?

o, but it's not perverse, they will tell you

well, you think your way and I will think mine. I have something o ther than my own thoughts & religion, though.. reality

Whenever there is a murder of a single man, the first thing police look for is: his gay boyfriend (as suspect). They think of this even though there may be no evidence the guy was gay (a lot of gays obviously like to stay in the closet)

Then there is the stat that many gays are unhappy and depressed..

If I am not mistaken more gays commit suicide than straights... like way more..

There is something in all humans that rebels against what is unnatural and perverse.. It's just that some do not listen to t hat.. go against that regardless

It's worth mentioning that this post has no value whatsoever.
 
My question is what is the medical fields opinion? Is it a choice or a different sex all together? Are homosexual’s DNA different?

And why has the medical field been so silent?
 
You don't want to be a demographic where a Pride parade is socially acceptable for you. Here's a list of Pride parades that you wouldn't want to be in, but would be perfectly socially acceptable:

Black, poor, Down Syndrome, Autism, Gay, etc

Now, on to Pride parades that seem rude or boasting, and not allowed socially:

White, rich, hetero, Mensa, etc.

For a Pride parade to be acceptable, there has to be a lot of pity for that group. If that group has no pity (or it's revered), a parade for that group is considered in bad taste.

Any parades along my demographics would be looked upon as arrogant. This is a good thing, and I'm thankful for it.

I'd like to amend my comment. It's not so much gays themselves that flaunt their sexuality, but the media caricature of gays. A pride parade will be covered 6 ways from Sunday, the gays aren't necessarily asking for the attention. It's the same with blacks and Indians - most of the pity party isn't generated by the groups themselves, but by white hetero people saying "we should pity those groups".
 
Goldman Sachs Group Inc. Chief Executive Officer David Solomon issued the latest ultimatum Thursday from Davos. Wall Street's biggest underwriter of initial public offerings in the U.S. will no longer take a company public in the U.S. and Europe if it lacks a director who is either female or diverse.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
 
Isn't every day straight pride day?
 
Is someone forcing poor put upon narrowroad to attend these pride parades against his or her will?
 
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