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Why didn't Obama call negative coverage the White Devil News?

Gaugingcatenate said:
Were those fellow Americans lying to the American people and the world on a constant basis, influencing them in devious ways to gain power for the corrupt?

Yes. Then with yes, those fellow Americans and corporate entities ARE enemies of the people.

We clear?
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No, they weren't. To claim that someone is a liar just because they responded to an early morning Tweet isn't truth.

So what do you plan on doing about all of these "enemies"?
 
CMPancake said:
I cannot find anything that supports the claim that Obama attempted to ban Fox News from the White House press corps.
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Gaugingcatenate said:
So, in turn, you are saying that Trump has banned CNN from the WHPC? Sources?
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I cannot find anything that supports the claim that CMPancake was saying 'Trump has banned CNN from the WHPC'
 
AlbqOwl said:
No he wouldn't. The left hated him from the beginning and have done everything they can think of that is rotten and loathsome to demonstrate it. His tweets probably don't help, but he could walk on water and end world hunger and cure cancer and they would still treat him as scum.
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Trump isn't going to cure cancer. Trump isn't going to end world hunger. Nobody would give a rat's ass if Trump walked on water. Can you come up with something less trite?
 
Rising Sun said:
No, they weren't. To claim that someone is a liar just because they responded to an early morning Tweet isn't truth.

So what do you plan on doing about all of these "enemies"?
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Who said they only did such as that? Come on, surely you keep up with the flow of current events better than that, right?
 
MSgt said:
Perhaps "the left" hated him from the beginning because from the beginning Trump set out to wage political warfare on everybody as he denigrated, insulted, and bashed his way into the hearts of his irrational constituency. Even the GOP begged Republicans not to vote for Trump in the Primaries. And in quick enough fashion, Trump's unprofessional demeanor managed to draw criticism and hate from plenty of the world's governments and institutions. People like the idea of "the left" because it allows them to think in terms of left/right, but even Republicans find themselves denigrated as "rinos" by conservatives if they dare criticize Trump. So, in regards to defaulting to "the left," it appears more that hate for Trump spans most of the political spectrum. Trump & Co. does get what it deserves, because it is constantly begging for the repercussions of its behavior.

Now, the opposite is true when it came to Obama, a man despised from the beginning for no reason as the right (to include Trump) paraded him around as an African-born Muslim who hobnobs with terrorists and hates America.
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More than 60 million people disagreed with you, and I suspect more than 60 million people disagree with you now.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
That's not accurate. Every rational adult who accepts reality, of any political persuasion, has hate Trump from the beginning.

Mafiosi are evil. They deserve to be hated.
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Post like yours is one of the reasons Trump won the election. When you call more than 60 million of us irrational, it doesn't give your opinion a lot of credibility.
 
tres borrachos said:
Trump isn't going to cure cancer. Trump isn't going to end world hunger. Nobody would give a rat's ass if Trump walked on water. Can you come up with something less trite?
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The point is that Trump cannot do ANYTHING to win the hearts of those who resent and hate him because he won an election they were certain he would never win. And they apparently have so little respect for the orderly transfer of power in this country that they are determined to continue to attack him for everything he thinks, suggests, says, or proposes regardless of what it is. That's the fact Jack.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Are you joking?

Take your pick from a smattering of various news sources, or read them all. Read em and weep.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fox-ne...ored-by-obama-administration-court-documents/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...788030e6b44_story.html?utm_term=.c5231861fa76

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...7aba60512a7_story.html?utm_term=.240c9de44cfb

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/20/obama-doj-james-rosen-criminality

Reporter James Rosen Says Nothing Trump Did Comes Close to What Obama Did to Press

How lost is your side? Hear no evil see no evil, eh? How come you folks have such ability to speak a lot of evil?
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Just wanted to be sure this is a bit more substantive than something you found on Daily Caller or WND. Many people are more than happy to make claims with nothing but political porn to back it up. You did better. Thanks. I will read and digest.

Please note, however, this appears to be a single incidence so it needs to be understand as a unique set of circumstances. The allegations about Trump are wholesale and methodical, not a single incidence. So, they likely are not comparable. But I certainly will research to understand. Thanks for the links.
 
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A free and hostile press is part of democracy; Neither take it all or leave it all. It can't pick and choose.
 
AlbqOwl said:
The point is that Trump cannot do ANYTHING to win the hearts of those who resent and hate him because he won an election they were certain he would never win. And they apparently have so little respect for the orderly transfer of power in this country that they are determined to continue to attack him for everything he thinks, suggests, says, or proposes regardless of what it is. That's the fact Jack.
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Stop whining, and my name isn't Jack.

He sucks as President. Sucks. When he does something good, like consider making marijuana legal, he gets commended, from me and others. When he acts like a buffoon, and a troll, and an idiot, he gets criticized. Just like we all criticized Obama for saying crap about the Cambridge police or "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan", and so on. Or have you conveniently forgotten all of that because the world doesn't worship Trump the way you do?
 
AlbqOwl said:
The point is that Trump cannot do ANYTHING to win the hearts of those who resent and hate him because he won an election they were certain he would never win. And they apparently have so little respect for the orderly transfer of power in this country that they are determined to continue to attack him for everything he thinks, suggests, says, or proposes regardless of what it is. That's the fact Jack.
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No truer words.
It's best to leave the eternally aggrieved from the election of DJT to tend to their own wounds while they wallow in in their own misery.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Post like yours is one of the reasons Trump won the election. When you call more than 60 million of us irrational, it doesn't give your opinion a lot of credibility.
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No, it's not evidence of that and you are, indeed, a highly irrational person.
 
AlbqOwl said:
The point is that Trump cannot do ANYTHING to win the hearts of those who resent and hate him because he won an election they were certain he would never win. And they apparently have so little respect for the orderly transfer of power in this country that they are determined to continue to attack him for everything he thinks, suggests, says, or proposes regardless of what it is. That's the fact Jack.
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For the record, Trump lost me AFTER the election. When it was clear that he would make no attempt to take to role of being President of America and inside opted to be the leader of his base, which was first reflected in his cabinet selections, I left him.*

* - I never supported him. I thought he would be a bad president well before he was elected. He appears to be far worse than I thought, but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.... but he blew it quickly. Until Trump sees himself as the President of ALL of a America, rather than someone that leverages his base to divide, he is going to be hated by the majority. It has nothing to do with the 2016 election, but how he as behaved since. You really need to get over 2016 election. Most of us are dealing with the problems of today.

People with narcissistic personality disorder rarely win the hearts of others. He will have to be content having won his own heart.

BTW.... being hated by the majority of Americans is not a winning strategy if you chose to run in 2020. Currently, 58% of Americans want someone new in 2020.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/14/poll-trump-2020-reelection-support-990015
https://nypost.com/2018/08/14/poll-shows-whopping-number-of-us-voters-dont-like-trump-as-a-person/
 
tres borrachos said:
Stop whining, and my name isn't Jack.

He sucks as President. Sucks. When he does something good, like consider making marijuana legal, he gets commended, from me and others. When he acts like a buffoon, and a troll, and an idiot, he gets criticized. Just like we all criticized Obama for saying crap about the Cambridge police or "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan", and so on. Or have you conveniently forgotten all of that because the world doesn't worship Trump the way you do?
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Criticizing what somebody does is a far cry from attacking a person personally as the media does. If being accurate about that is whining I will continue to whine as long as they do it.
 
trixare4kids said:
No truer words.
It's best to leave the eternally aggrieved from the election of DJT to tend to their own wounds while they wallow in in their own misery.
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I do leave them to wallow in their own misery and dishonesty.

But we also have to keep putting the truth out there or they win. They may win anyway, but honorable people must resist that kind of hatred and dishonesty and don't lose hope that the truth will prevail.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Criticizing what somebody does is a far cry from attacking a person personally as the media does. If being accurate about that is whining I will continue to whine as long as they do it.
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Attacking a person personally? You mean like "Who would vote for someone with that face?" "Lyin'Ted"? "Little Marco"? How about the picture of Ted Cruz's wife? How about everyone else he attacked, except of course his BFF the world's worst dictator who he "fell in love" with, and Putin, that swell guy?

Spare me the faux outrage when you unquestioningly support the world's most obnoxious personal attacker, in history.
 
upsideguy said:
For the record, Trump lost me AFTER the election. When it was clear that he would make no attempt to take to role of being President of America and inside opted to be the leader of his base, which was first reflected in his cabinet selections, I left him.*

* - I never supported him. I thought he would be a bad president well before he was elected. He appears to be far worse than I thought, but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.... but he blew it quickly. Until Trump sees himself as the President of ALL of a America, rather than someone that leverages his base to divide, he is going to be hated by the majority. It has nothing to do with the 2016 election, but how he as behaved since. You really need to get over 2016 election. Most of us are dealing with the problems of today.

People with narcissistic personality disorder rarely win the hearts of others. He will have to be content having won his own heart.

BTW.... being hated by the majority of Americans is not a winning strategy if you chose to run in 2020. Currently, 58% of Americans want someone new in 2020.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/14/poll-trump-2020-reelection-support-990015
https://nypost.com/2018/08/14/poll-shows-whopping-number-of-us-voters-dont-like-trump-as-a-person/
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At this point in their Presidencies, President Trump's approval ratings are higher than President Obama's approval ratings. So you won't impress me with polls. Approval or disapproval of their policies and/or initiatives is fair game for debate. Unmitigated hatred and attempts to destroy a person personally is simply evil regardless of political registration.
 
tres borrachos said:
Attacking a person personally? You mean like "Who would vote for someone with that face?" "Lyin'Ted"? "Little Marco"? How about the picture of Ted Cruz's wife? How about everyone else he attacked, except of course his BFF the world's worst dictator who he "fell in love" with, and Putin, that swell guy?

Spare me the faux outrage when you unquestioningly support the world's most obnoxious personal attacker, in history.
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Oh yeah. We could spend the day plucking this or that comment out of the mix and holding it up as evidence of a person's depravity--ANYTHING to divert from actual substance. Do have a pleasant day.
 
upsideguy said:
Just wanted to be sure this is a bit more substantive than something you found on Daily Caller or WND. Many people are more than happy to make claims with nothing but political porn to back it up. You did better. Thanks. I will read and digest.

Please note, however, this appears to be a single incidence so it needs to be understand as a unique set of circumstances. The allegations about Trump are wholesale and methodical, not a single incidence. So, they likely are not comparable. But I certainly will research to understand. Thanks for the links.
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Isolated incident?



https://nypost.com/2014/10/27/ex-cbs-reporter-government-related-entity-bugged-my-computer/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017...l-attkisson-donald-trump-campaign-transition/

And you know with the constant and egregious lying by all facets of the MSM, you cannot just automatically assume that other outlets are worse now. We have to sift through it all to see where the gold nuggets might be.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Oh yeah. We could spend the day plucking this or that comment out of the mix and holding it up as evidence of a person's depravity--ANYTHING to divert from actual substance. Do have a pleasant day.
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President Trump has no decent "substance" in any body in his body. And you know it. You just aren't allowed to admit it.
 
upsideguy said:
For the record, Trump lost me AFTER the election. When it was clear that he would make no attempt to take to role of being President of America and inside opted to be the leader of his base, which was first reflected in his cabinet selections, I left him.*

* - I never supported him. I thought he would be a bad president well before he was elected. He appears to be far worse than I thought, but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.... but he blew it quickly. Until Trump sees himself as the President of ALL of a America, rather than someone that leverages his base to divide, he is going to be hated by the majority. It has nothing to do with the 2016 election, but how he as behaved since. You really need to get over 2016 election. Most of us are dealing with the problems of today.

People with narcissistic personality disorder rarely win the hearts of others. He will have to be content having won his own heart.

BTW.... being hated by the majority of Americans is not a winning strategy if you chose to run in 2020. Currently, 58% of Americans want someone new in 2020.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/14/poll-trump-2020-reelection-support-990015
https://nypost.com/2018/08/14/poll-shows-whopping-number-of-us-voters-dont-like-trump-as-a-person/
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The Monmouth Poll wasn't particularly favorable to Obama getting a second term either... Oh, and look what happened. Obama proved Monmouth wrong.
I wouldn't put too much faith in this one poll, my friend.

In a warning sign that New Jersey is not overly enthusiastic about a second Obama term, 46% of registered voters say he deserves to be re-elected while 47% say it's time to have someone else in office. More than 3-in-4 Democrats (78%) say he should be re-elected and the same number of Republicans (79%) say he should not. A majority (53%) of Garden State independents prefer someone new compared to 40% who say the president has earned a second term.
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https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_nj_101611/
 
Winston said:
How would you of felt if Obama constantly berated negative coverage as the White Devil news?
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Obama did not disrespect leftist news outlets no matter what color the people involved even though he had a bias against conservative whites.
 
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