Why Blacks don't vote Republican

[AGENT J]

Which is why they've done so well over the years. :roll:

are you claiming that their voting has made it worse for them?
if so please support that with facts that prove it and show it would factually be better if they voted otherwise . . .thanks!

 

[Bullseye]

are you claiming that their voting has made it worse for them?
if so please support that with facts that prove it and show it would factually be better if they voted otherwise . . .thanks!

what facts do you need. Dems promised them the world until election day and then did little until the next election season. Compare poverty levels from LBJ's days 'til today. Particularly in the black community. Just one example. Look at the shambles in historically dem controlled cities - shambles.

 

[calamity]

Which is why they've done so well over the years. :roll:

They kind of have, thanks to Dems.

 

[Bullseye]

LMAO thats what I thought! you got nothing!!!


i asked for FACTS . . nobody cares about your claims and feelings . . . facts certainly dont care about them
all the regulations? :lamo

Factually prove the "Trump" did something that is factually and solely responsible for black unemployment levels . . .we are waiting!

opcorn2:

also heres of hint of reality of why you will NEVER be able to post anything that makes "Trump's actions" responsible


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Notice that upward inflection in Bush's years - corresponds exactly to the Dems taking control of Congress and the onset of the Dem driven recession.

 

[Bullseye]

They kind of have, thanks to Dems.

Yep, some blacks are breaking free of the Dem dependency plantation and following traditional conservative "work hard to get ahead" ideology.

 

[AGENT J]

1.) what facts do you need.
2.) Dems promised them the world until election day and then did little until the next election season.
3.) Compare poverty levels from LBJ's days 'til today. Particularly in the black community. Just one example.
4.) Look at the shambles in historically dem controlled cities - shambles.

1.) like any honest edcuated objective adult facts that would support your claims and make them true . . .so far none have been posted
2.) see this is an example of you feelings. . its meaningless
3.) those are stats but yet nothign that supports your claims
4.) more feelings

seems you are struggling very badly to even post ONE fact that makes your claims true . . . one

ill ask you all the question you keep dodging AGAIN

-how did only democrats /democratic policies factually cause all that (your opinion of a worsening/subpar black community)?
-are you claiming racism plays no role worth discussing and is a nonfactor for that (your opinion of a worsening/subpar black community)?
-are you claiming that their voting for Democrats made it worse for them? if so please support that with facts that prove it and show it would factually be better if they voted otherwise?

please post these facts you speak of that show its the democrat's fault that (and ill quote you) fifty years that the lives and financial status of the black community has seen very little progress, we'd love to read them!!!

try not to dodge and run again . . .thanks!

 

[AGENT J]

Notice that upward inflection in Bush's years - corresponds exactly to the Dems taking control of Congress and the onset of the Dem driven recession.

Bushes years??

so now you jump in a conversation where a person who claimed the black unemployment rate is because of Trump and try to make some other failed point about bush years and congress??? LMAO
awesome.....

seems you have trouble determingin what facts and opinions are so what did they do, the dems, that factually drove the recession . . . list them and prove thats all it was and nothing else
this will be more fun than your last fails
opcorn2:

 

[AGENT J]

Yep, some blacks are breaking free of the Dem dependency plantation and following traditional conservative "work hard to get ahead" ideology.

interesting . . do those numbers match perfectly with black republicans????? please link that proof otherwise another retarded lie of yours is going down in flames

 

[Bullseye]

Bushes years??

so now you jump in a conversation where a person who claimed the black unemployment rate is because of Trump and try to make some other failed point about bush years and congress??? LMAO
awesome.....

seems you have trouble determingin what facts and opinions are so what did they do, the dems, that factually drove the recession . . . list them and prove thats all it was and nothing else
this will be more fun than your last fails
opcorn2:

Seems like you may be the one finding the discussion hard to follow. I commented on a chart of black unemployment, which is part of the discussion.

 

[AGENT J]

Seems like you may be the one finding the discussion hard to follow. I commented on a chart of black unemployment, which is part of the discussion.

BOOM another dodge!!! i knew this would be more fun than your last posted failure!

seems you just made ANOTHER post with ZERO facts in it to prove your claims . .
hmm maybe in your next post you will but we all know you wont

ill post them all again with this new failed claim of yours first so you dont get confused


- again what did they (democrats) do, that factually drove the recession . . . list them and prove thats all it was and nothing else

-how did only democrats /democratic policies factually cause all that (your opinion of a worsening/subpar black community)?
-are you claiming racism plays no role worth discussing and is a nonfactor for that (your opinion of a worsening/subpar black community)?
-are you claiming that their voting for Democrats made it worse for them? if so please support that with facts that prove it and show it would factually be better if they voted otherwise?

please post these facts you speak of that show its the democrat's fault that (and ill quote you) fifty years that the lives and financial status of the black community has seen very little progress, we'd love to read them!!!

try not to dodge and run again . . .thanks!

 

[haymarket]

I find the history behind the use of racism by the ruling elite to be interesting. If i recall correctly, if the Pullman workers organized with their black counterparts, the strike might have been successful.

Exactly. If workers had united regardless of color - they would have been more powerful. Which made racism very necessary to avert that to keep the monied interests on top.

 

[haymarket]

Which is why they've done so well over the years. :roll:

The legacy of slavery and Jim crow and racism is strong and persistent.

 

[ultmd]

I was a Democrat back in the 60's. My candid response is I couldn't care less. How's that?

How is it?

It's about what I expected. I'll just make the following observation. Clearly, you weren't a Democrat (if you ever were) based on those principles.

You're someone who doesn't understand his own history beyond a few superficial talking points and regurgitated myths/legends/half-truths, much less the history of the two major political parties in this country.

You're conservative who rationalizes his views by cherry-picking your facts and selecting/distorting your historical "truths".

 

[Bullseye]

How is it?

It's about what I expected. I'll just make the following observation. Clearly, you weren't a Democrat (if you ever were) based on those principles.

You're someone who doesn't understand his own history beyond a few superficial talking points and regurgitated myths/legends/half-truths, much less the history of the two major political parties in this country.

You're conservative who rationalizes his views by cherry-picking your facts and selecting/distorting your historical "truths".

And your basically a liar.

 

[Aberration]

Black people started voting Democrat when they still had Lynching on their platform. So obviously something else influences their vote more.

 

[ultmd]

If I fail to give OBama any credit, it's either undeserved, minimal at best since we had the slowest growth under Obama of any recession recovery, or I'm just doing what democrats keep doing to Trump.

Oh, Pah-leez....

Don't blame that on Democrats.

You , and people like you, were "doing it to Obama" LONG, LONG before Trump was even as serious candidate. And you know it.

What is it about you people that you must ALWAYS seek to blame others, first? You people live and act-out your fake-ass credo of "personal responsibility" to about the same degree as the average homeless drunkard.

The bottom line is that criticizing the man who ended the most recent Republican Recession (i.e.the worst economic recession since the Great Depression).....then LITERALLY saved the worldwide economy....and ultimately created the longest continuous economic expansion in the HISTORY of the world....for having "the slowest growth of any recovery", is utterly MORONIC.

Trump inherited a strong economy, and simply juiced it with his outrageous tax cuts (90% of which were targeted toward the wealthy and large corporations). His actions on regulations have done NOTHING. His tax cuts have done NOTHING (in terms of employment and wages). And his tax cuts have NOT "paid for themselves" as promised. The only thing he's accomplished is massively increasing deficits and the debt, while virtually guaranteeing an end to the recovery by 2020. That's why he's trying, desperately, to get his cronies onto the FED BOARD, ASAP. He's been told that the economy is poised for a major slow-down, and he wants the FED to juice it (by lowering interest rates recklessly) in time to artificially pump up the economy before the 2020 election. But economist know that would result in massive inflation, and a major recession. However, Trump doesn't care about the country or the economy. He only wants to win reelection, at any cost.

 

[ultmd]

Black people started voting Democrat when they still had Lynching on their platform. So obviously something else influences their vote more.

Another stupid "analysis" from another clueless white guy, no doubt.

First, let's be clear about this: Lynching has NEVER been in the party platform of either party. Never. That's just another idiotic FoxNews/talk-radio/alt-right blogosphere LIE, that people like you gobble up with empty-headed, unthinking glee. I know you people get really sensitive when others question, or mock, your intellectual prowess....but when you repeat nonsense like this, you really have no room to complain. You need to just hush up and take it.

That said, let's establish some context for this issue. First, African-American voters in the NORTH and WEST began to shift toward the Democratic Party during the FDR era, because IN THE NORTH and WEST, Democrats were the pro-civil rights party. Lynching was not only an issue in the South, where African-Americans (the tiny few who could actually vote...and make it home alive) were still supporting the GOP overwhelmingly.

African-Americans in the old SOUTH were NOT VOTING in large numbers prior to the VRA of '65 because attempting to vote was a death sentence.

But again, your original claim (above) was/is just an incredibly ignorant comment, one that reflects directly on you and the mindset that poisons your right-wing brain, I think.

 

[Aberration]

Another stupid "analysis" from another clueless white guy, no doubt.

You could have just stopped there. I won’t bother arguing with an irrational bigot.

 

[uptower]

You vote for people that vote for your interests. Its just that simple.

Well said. Savvy voters will recognize that the racists switch positions over civil rights in the sixties and the GOP has since become their haven. However anyone can see today that the GOP still disadvantages poor and minority voters. They attack forms of welfare, minimum wage hikes and even voting itself. They demand black people 'pull up their bootstraps' but offer nothing in return: just the widening gap between rich and poor and increasingly the enfranchised and disenfranchised.

Moreover they court the bigots and racists - the Kings, the Sessions, the Trumps and all their ilk. Any black voter can see that these days and that's why they tend to vote for the Dems.

 

[Puigb]

You could have just stopped there. I won’t bother arguing with an irrational bigot.

translation: You could have just stopped there. I haven no rational argument.

 

[Puigb]

it's obvious why blacks don't vote Republican, and many posters on this thread have done a good job ripping apart the standard "Democrat Plantation" and "Democrats are the party of the KKK" arguments popular in low information right wing circles.

What's very interesting and also VERY troublesome for the GOP is the mass exodus of Asian Americans from the GOP to the Dems. Up until 2004, Asian Americans were a reliable GOP voting bloc. Since then, they have been trending more and more towards the Dems, and have even surpassed "hispanics" in their massive support of the Dems. This is despite the fact that Asian Americans are on average more "well off" than even whites, and use less "government programs" than anyone else, and are, according to Republicans at least, the "group" most hurt by affirmative action. Republican voters of course won't address this problem, and instead will blame and insult everyone else for why their party can't appeal to ANYONE besides rural and older white voters. If the GOP doesn't address these problems soon, they will be finished as a national political party, as they can barely win elections now solely on the backs of their white base. The GOP establishment understands this (after their 2013 autopsy report based on Romney's loss in 2012 to Obama), which is why they wanted amnesty friendly Jeb Bush or Scott Walker, or hispanic "Marco Rubio" to win their parties nomination in 2016, not race baiting birther Donald Trump. That's one huge reason why they BEGGED their voters to NOT vote for Trump in the primaries. But it was too late, their base was already radicalized after years of being told by Fox News and talk radio that Obama was a racist foreign born muslim who hated white people, hated christians, socialist, wanted to take away their guns, and sympathized with terrorists. This type of radical race baiting is what resulted in the rise of race baiting opportunist Donald Trump, and the rise of the alt right, and white nationalism. And despite the nonsense that Trump and his thugs in the GOP spew about minorities loving Trump, Trump's party got crushed in the mid-terms with all minority groups, and I believe it will only get worse for him and the GOP in 2020.

 

[ultmd]

And your basically a liar.

:lamo
Hardly.

Don't lash out at me. You just acknowledged your ignorance. You had no idea what you were talking about. Your earlier remarks were as much personal fantasy and rationalization, driven by blind wingnut ideology, as anything else. Clearly, your reasons for leaving the Democratic Party had little to do with the stuff you mentioned. If it's even true that you did once align with the Dems, it almost certain that your reasons for leaving were the same as almost every other angry white guy who left the party: cultural grievance, racial resentment, religious bigotry, etc.

You're projecting your anger now, because you feel convicted. That's your problem, not mine.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

You could have just stopped there. I won’t bother arguing with an irrational bigot.

But you never provided an argument. I'll keep pointing out how the conservatives here don't make arguments. They just make unsupported claims and denials.

Do you have any evidence that lynching was on the Democratic platform? Do you have evidence that Blacks voted for Democrats who promoted lynchings? You need that stuff to have a rational argument.

Both Democrats and Republicans in the South were racists. Not a single southern Republican voted for VRA. Not one. Blacks looked to national elections for some kind of assistance to deal with the racist southern states. Truman, JFK and LBJ promoted the VRA which would override the oppression of the southern states.

You see a huge shift after Truman gave a speech to the NAACP (1947?) and the nation. You see another huge shift in 1960 when JFK called Martin Luther King in prison and secured his release.

What is left to argue?

 

[Bullseye]

:lamo
Hardly.

Don't lash out at me. You just acknowledged your ignorance. You had no idea what you were talking about. Your earlier remarks were as much personal fantasy and rationalization, driven by blind wingnut ideology, as anything else. Clearly, your reasons for leaving the Democratic Party had little to do with the stuff you mentioned. If it's even true that you did once align with the Dems, it almost certain that your reasons for leaving were the same as almost every other angry white guy who left the party: cultural grievance, racial resentment, religious bigotry, etc.

You're projecting your anger now, because you feel convicted. That's your problem, not mine.

And basically lies again.

 

[PTF]

This thread only proves the liberal/Demos big secret weapon to divide the country is racism. The liberal/Demos bring back the past and never want us to advanced together. The use of the "N" word hits below the belt. Finding Republicans and relating the party to racism fuels hostile division hoping that minorities will put the liberal/Demo back into power...no one is fooled.
This broken record should stay broke and gotten rid of. It's time to move on without using race as apolitical issue to gain office.