Why Barr Should Resign

[ecofarm]

Yes Holder was an effective wingman. Plus the press did not go after Obama folks as they do with this administration.

So we never had a reason to consider any conflict of interest because Obama was never involved in any investigation in any way. And that's not good for Obama. No. That's evidence of conspiracy. This is what I call "youtube politics".

And who cares about the press. The law is taking down Trump's people. The law took down none of Obama's people. Press?

 

[marke]

Why? Because he is a hack.

Here's someone explaining that in a more eloquent fashion.



Why William Barr should resign | TheHill

Obviously, no one with an ounce of intelligence believes a single thing Barr says these days.

Democrats have plenty of reason for wanting Barr out of the picture. He is hot on the trail of political corruption and scandal of the magnitude never before seen in America and there are dozens of sleazebag political crooks who justly fear having the FBI swat team showing up at their doors in the middle of the night for crimes they have committed against America and the rule of law.

 

[washunut]

So we never had a reason to consider any conflict of interest because Obama was never involved in any investigation in any way. And that's not good for Obama. No. That's evidence of conspiracy. This is what I call "youtube politics".

Moving the goalposts a bit I see. First you say Obama's people,now it is Obama. As to his people are you saying no one lied to congress including Holder himself. As far as dirty dealings in Chicago, we might want to look into land purchases by Obama.

 

[PoppyCock]

The link is no more "eloquent" than the OP. Nothing more than OP-ED.

 

[ecofarm]

Moving the goalposts a bit I see. First you say Obama's people,now it is Obama. As to his people are you saying no one lied to congress including Holder himself. As far as dirty dealings in Chicago, we might want to look into land purchases by Obama.

Let's make it simple. None of Obama's campaign managers, longtime personal attorneys or cabinet secretaries went to prison. Obama himself was never involved in any investigation. That's why no one brought up conflicts of interest between Obama and Holder. Not because people are hypocrites, but because Obama was never in a position for a conflict of interest to take place. Life was different.

 

[concernedpuma]

I hear the democrats had a pre-meltdown this evening on CNN ... :lol:

They did? Darn, I missed it! And I was gonna bring marshmallows! Oh well, I guess I can wait till the next one. I'm sure it will be soon and I don't think shelf life of the marshmallows will be a problem.
Regards,
CP

 

[Mycroft]

Let's make it simple. None of Obama's campaign managers, longtime personal attorneys or cabinet secretaries went to prison. Obama himself was never involved in any investigation. That's why no one brought up conflicts of interest between Obama and Holder. Not because people are hypocrites, but because Obama was never in a position for a conflict of interest to take place. Life was different.

Boy, are you in for a BIG surprise.

I almost feel sorry for you (almost)...your world is going to be rocked hard.

 

[iguanaman]

I'm sure you said the same thing when Eric (I'm his wingman) Holder was in office.

There is no comparison. Trump has found his Roy Cohn and Barr has violated his oath to uphold the Constitution.

 

[ecofarm]

Boy, are you in for a BIG surprise.

Wait. Leme guess. Foxnews?

I almost feel sorry for you (almost)...your world is going to be rocked hard.

I can't imagine what makes you believe anyone would click.

 

[washunut]

There is no comparison. Trump has found his Roy Cohn and Barr has violated his oath to uphold the Constitution.

What motivation would someone like Barr have to do anything unethical. Not sure why people think it is OK to libel someone just because they hate Trump. Politics has always been sleazy but we seem intent on taking this thrash to a new level. I thought some of the attacks on Obama were way over the top,but I guess that was the baseline that new haters had to surpass.

I don't know Barr. He was AG before now he is trash because he works for Trump thus a traitor, unethical etc. Who really believes this sh**?

 

[Mycroft]

Here are the House Dems continuing their meltdown...

HOUSE CHAIRS DEMAND AG BARR CANCEL PRESS CONFERENCE ON MUELLER REPORT

LOL!!

 

[iguanaman]

Sucks that those Congressional hacks can't get information that is forbidden them by law, isn't it?

What law is that? Every other Special Counsel report has been released in it's entirety. The idea that the DOJ is helping Whitehouse lawyers devise a rebuttle to the Mueller report is the very epitome of foxes guarding the henhouse. ALL DOJ officials swear an oath to uphold the Constitution not help the President get out of wrong doing or prosecute his enemies.

 

[HumblePi]

So we never had a reason to consider any conflict of interest because Obama was never involved in any investigation in any way. And that's not good for Obama. No. That's evidence of conspiracy. This is what I call "youtube politics".

And who cares about the press. The law is taking down Trump's people. The law took down none of Obama's people. Press?

Would the right believe it's just an unhappy set of circumstances that there's been 37 indictments, many of which were men closest to Trump both during and after his campaign. Michael Flynn, Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort, Richard Gates and Roger Stone to name a few.

Imagine the headlines "Thirty-seven of President Barack Obama's campaign have been indicted for conspiracy with Russian agents" And the reaction if democrats said, 'that doesn't prove that President Obama did anything wrong".

They'd be having fits if the situation was reversed.

Alex Trebec, I'll take 'deep state is tainted' for $100.

 

[ecofarm]

Would the right believe it's just an unhappy set of circumstances that there's been 37 indictments, many of which were men closest to Trump both during and after his campaign. Michael Flynn, Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort, Richard Gates and Roger Stone to name a few.

Imagine the headlines "Thirty-seven of President Barack Obama's campaign have been indicted for conspiracy with Russian agents" And the reaction if democrats said, 'that doesn't prove that President Obama did anything wrong".

They'd be having fits if the situation was reversed.

Alex Trebec, I'll take 'deep state is tainted' for $100.

Obama's face on gangsters memes as far as the eye could see.

 

[concernedpuma]

Here are the House Dems continuing their meltdown...

HOUSE CHAIRS DEMAND AG BARR CANCEL PRESS CONFERENCE ON MUELLER REPORT

LOL!!

C'mon MYC. We have to provide a soft landing somewhere for the half crazed opposition. I hate the idea that they will be forced to be braying hounds after a rabbit in the hole! There ought be a place for those who are strong enough to admit the were deceived and bought into professionally packaged nonsense about their own President. I am willing to forgive and forget, if they will just take the opportunity to come home.
Regards,
CP

 

[Saladin4]

Translation: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You ready to kiss Barr's fat ass?

 

[concernedpuma]

There is no comparison. Trump has found his Roy Cohn and Barr has violated his oath to uphold the Constitution.

How does one do his job, as described legally and then not be upholding the constitution? This is the United States, are you viewing some other constitution? Or, perhaps you are looking for some extra-constitutional obligation that would make you able to crow about the success of a crooked attempt to unseat the elected President? When, God, will people with that view stop and look at what they are attempting? That you might be even remotely right is no where near the importance of the Union! Give peace a chance!
Regards,
CP

 

[concernedpuma]

What motivation would someone like Barr have to do anything unethical. Not sure why people think it is OK to libel someone just because they hate Trump. Politics has always been sleazy but we seem intent on taking this thrash to a new level. I thought some of the attacks on Obama were way over the top,but I guess that was the baseline that new haters had to surpass.

I don't know Barr. He was AG before now he is trash because he works for Trump thus a traitor, unethical etc. Who really believes this sh**?

I see you list yourself as somewhat Liberal. Good. I think we're all somewhat Liberal. No one with any reasoning would think that everything that has gone before is Sterling. Our forefathers were so wise, it is hard to give them the sufficient respect they are due. I do believe that part of their wisdom, was inspired by powers we can't tap. Not meaning in any way to insult or challenge atheist, but something was in the air we can't have. Given that, I think the framers knew of their limitations and left subsequent generations to use their guidance for the express purpose of making a better country. Isn't that why we are able and anxious to come here to discuss ideas for making the Country better for you, me and ours?
With warmest regard to you and fellow Americans!
CP

 

[maxparrish]

Why? Because he is a hack.

Here's someone explaining that in a more eloquent fashion.

Why William Barr should resign | TheHill

Obviously, no one with an ounce of intelligence believes a single thing Barr says these days.

My goodness, it's rather unusual to see such a severe outbreak of collective psychosis over events that have NOT EVEN HAPPENED. Surely this is a test for those in need of a "5150", aka 5-alarm dispatch of the butterfly net team.

For those afflicted with this form of hysteria and delusional paranoia William Barr is guilty of "future crime", of doing something yet to be done. For those so deranged, Barr is already guilty of a coverup using redactions, sight unseen. He's using a press conference to explain his intentions and criteria, so he is lying and covering up because … well... we just know that is what he WILL do.

Naturally the same oracles in the press have their MSM headlines pre-written for tomorrow:

"Mueller Report Does Not Find Trump Innocent"
"Russian Investigation Provides New Avenues to Investigate Trump"
"Trump May Have Done Something Illegal, Still Looking".
"Report Shows Trumps Tawdry Sex Life, Shady Associations, Dubious Business Ethics"
"Report Does Not Clear Trump of Critics Conjectures of Wrong-doing"

In the realm of a pandemic psychosis that has invented and judged its own reality, condemnations and outrage against persons for what has not happened, well...this one has to be one of the most bizarre.

 

[iguanaman]

How does one do his job, as described legally and then not be upholding the constitution? This is the United States, are you viewing some other constitution? Or, perhaps you are looking for some extra-constitutional obligation that would make you able to crow about the success of a crooked attempt to unseat the elected President? When, God, will people with that view stop and look at what they are attempting? That you might be even remotely right is no where near the importance of the Union! Give peace a chance!
Regards,
CP

You have forgotten that a AG serves the people and the Constitution not the President. The Mueller report is an investigation of Russian meddling in our elections and the notion that it is somehow illegal to surveil intelligence agents of a foreign adversary because they were involved with members of the Trump campaign is not only preposterous. it is treason to subvert our institutions that are in charge of keeping us safe. You should be ashamed.

 

[concernedpuma]

You have forgotten that a AG serves the people and the Constitution not the President. The Mueller report is an investigation of Russian meddling in our elections and the notion that it is somehow illegal to surveil intelligence agents of a foreign adversary because they were involved with members of the Trump campaign is not only preposterous. it is treason to subvert our institutions that are in charge of keeping us safe. You should be ashamed.

No. I don't think I have I just fail to see where AG Barr has done anything unconstitutional. What was it he did? If it is he doesn't fulfill your twisted expectation, that would seem to be a question best addressed internally, in this instance, by yourself. I feel no shame for protecting the American institution. I sleep soundly and awake ready to defend my country. Maybe you are deflecting or really, really hoping the baited anti-American(really anti all-Americans) hook you swallowed isn't really supporting of anti-Americanism ?
Regards,
CP

 

[OscarLevant]

Congress can have the full and complete work product of the Special Counsel that the law allows.

"the attorney general had outlined four categories of information that would be redacted:
(1) material subject to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e) that by law cannot be made public; (2) material the intelligence community identifies as potentially compromising sensitive sources and methods; (3) material that could affect other ongoing matters, including those that the Special Counsel has referred to other Department offices; and (4) information that would unduly infringe on the personal privacy and reputational interests of peripheral third parties."
Barr Says Congress Won't Get Unredacted Mueller Report - The Atlantic

I think it is a moot point at this juncture because of FOIA laws.

Whether or not redactions meet FOIA requirements (these are gov docs, after all, subject to FOIA requests) are for a Judge to decide, and Judge Walton has indicated he is going to be the judge on this matter.


Judge: Barr sowing public mistrust with Mueller report handling - POLITICO


He will request an unredacted copy, and we shall see what he rules. Methinks he's no Trumpster, though he was appointed by Bush.

I believe the intel committee has a good shot at winning this battle in court, because the intel committee is going to argue that it needs the entire report to decide if any impeachable offenses were committeed, and there is an overriding need to see it.

 

[OscarLevant]

Sucks that those Congressional hacks can't get information that is forbidden them by law, isn't it?

No law will protect corrupt intent. If it is found that Barr is acting to shield the president from impeachable offenses uncovered by Mueller, that changes the dynamics of this equation. We shall see what the courts decide.

Moreover, Judge Walton is going to decide if the redactions are proper, and compliant with FOIA laws.

In other words, he is going to be the arbiter, not AG, insofar as what the public sees.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

I'm sure you said the same thing when Eric (I'm his wingman) Holder was in office.

Haven't you ever heard that two wrongs do not make a right?

 

[concernedpuma]

I think it is a moot point at this juncture because of FOIA laws.

Whether or not redactions meet FOIA requirements (these are gov docs, after all, subject to FOIA requests) are for a Judge to decide, and Judge Walton has indicated he is going to be the judge on this matter.


Judge: Barr sowing public mistrust with Mueller report handling - POLITICO


He will request an unredacted copy, and we shall see what he rules. Methinks he's no Trumpster, though he was appointed by Bush.

I believe the intel committee has a good shot at winning this battle in court, because the intel committee is going to argue that it needs the entire report to decide if any impeachable offenses were committeed, and there is an overriding need to see it.

What isn't moot? The real question is what isn't? I believe that answer is found sometime afterlife. Some others have a different notion. I don't when those folk hope to have the answer, It may be they don't care.
Regards,
CP