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Why are you against same sex marriage?

Rich2018 said:
What about interpreting law ?

Have you never heard of a precedent ?
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The courts didnt interpret the law, DOMA, they changed it using the commerce clause for the most part. Precedent, is why I alway bring Constitutional Carry into this discussion. About the same, actually more states now have constitutional carry than had legalized same sex marriage when the courts decided that same sex marriages had to be recognized in every state. If my marriage license is recognized in every state my right to carry should be as well.

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Eriech said:
The courts didnt interpret the law, DOMA, they changed it using the commerce clause for the most part. Precedent, is why I alway bring Constitutional Carry into this discussion. About the same, actually more states now have constitutional carry than had legalized same sex marriage when the courts decided that same sex marriages had to be recognized in every state. If my marriage license is recognized in every state my right to carry should be as well.

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No they ruled that it was an unconstitutional law. That is their job.
 
wolfsgirl said:
No they ruled that it was an unconstitutional law. That is their job.
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So they were doing their job with Dread Scott and Plessy v Ferguson? Why doesn't my constitutional right to keep and bear arms transfer from state to state as does my marriage?

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Lisa said:
Welcome back. What didja' do?
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It's best not to say...some posters here are like a dog with a bone and repeat their same opinion over and over as if how true some is, is a function of how many times you say it.

Best to let them have the last word and not repeat yourself.
 
Eriech said:
The courts didnt interpret the law, DOMA, they changed it using the commerce clause for the most part. Precedent, is why I alway bring Constitutional Carry into this discussion. About the same, actually more states now have constitutional carry than had legalized same sex marriage when the courts decided that same sex marriages had to be recognized in every state. If my marriage license is recognized in every state my right to carry should be as well.

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Do you have a case number you can reference?
 
CLAX1911 said:
This was an interesting discussion I was having with people.

If you are against same-sex marriage I would like to hear your explanation as to why keep in mind if you responding you give an explanation I may ask you to rationalize. I won't call you a bigot or attack you in anyway and I expect the same reciprocated. I can't speak for other posters I would ask that they not do that but sometimes people got to do what they got to do what they do.

That being said please explain if you are against same-sex marriage why you are and be prepared to rationalize.
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I don't understand why any citizen in a secular nation would reject same-sex marriage.
 
Cougarbear said:
....I do believe is that God sanctions civil marriages as long as they are not vile-type marriages...
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Why do you believe that

And what is a "vile-type" marriage. Are you referring to an arranged marriage where a young girl has no say in her husband's identity ?
 
People can call it whatever they want, the law can call it whatever they want...there is only one definition of a marriage and God set the precedent for what true marriage is when He united the 1st man and woman...
 
The OP focuses on for or against, but not intensity. I'm against homosexual marriage, but also believe that the right has bigger fish to fry.
 
Elvira said:
People can call it whatever they want, the law can call it whatever they want...there is only one definition of a marriage and God set the precedent for what true marriage is when He united the 1st man and woman...
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Not woman, women. Good created polygamous marriage long before people perverted it to mean only one man and one woman.
 
Rich2018 said:
Isn't that just interpreting the Constitution?
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Yes, it is. Constitutional interpretation is the designated role of the Sepreme Cpourt.
 
Elvira said:
People can call it whatever they want, the law can call it whatever they want...there is only one definition of a marriage and God set the precedent for what true marriage is when He united the 1st man and woman...
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When did your god say this?

When did god marry anyone because that action, if you could prove it, would be proof that God exists, of which there is none now?

The Bible is the work of many men and many ancient societies so the Bible is not the work of your god.
 
Elvira said:
People can call it whatever they want, the law can call it whatever they want...there is only one definition of a marriage and God set the precedent for what true marriage is when He united the 1st man and woman...
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This claim will NEVER be true and cant be support by any facts what so ever LMAO . . why make stuff up?
 
Lisa said:
When did your god say this?

When did god marry anyone because that action, if you could prove it, would be proof that God exists, of which there is none now?

The Bible is the work of many men and many ancient societies so the Bible is not the work of your god.
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I didn't know you cared what God said...
 
Elvira said:
I didn't know you cared what God said...
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You made a positive claim that god existed and acted. I asked for proof to support that claim.
 
Cougarbear said:
And, that is up to them to believe in God's of gold and made up ideology. I'm talking about the God of the Old and New Testament in which is the only true God that can make a covenant.
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Again, you are talking about the god you believe in. Legally, they can believe in any god they want or no god at all. Has zero impact on legal marriage or even their personal marriage.

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Eriech said:
The courts didnt interpret the law, DOMA, they changed it using the commerce clause for the most part. Precedent, is why I alway bring Constitutional Carry into this discussion. About the same, actually more states now have constitutional carry than had legalized same sex marriage when the courts decided that same sex marriages had to be recognized in every state. If my marriage license is recognized in every state my right to carry should be as well.

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Separate issues. It was also not only having marriages carry over that struck down DOMA. Unequal treatment was also involved, part of the ruling.

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Eriech said:
So they were doing their job with Dread Scott and Plessy v Ferguson? Why doesn't my constitutional right to keep and bear arms transfer from state to state as does my marriage?

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Why did it not do so before the Obergefell decision? Opposite sex marriages still transferred from state to state, while your concealed carry doesnt in all, regardless of same sex marriages doing so. So your argument fundamentally is a separate issue. The Obergefell decision didnt change that uneven treatment of those issues.

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