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Who should be in charge of COVID-19?

Trump should have selected...


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What makes you think he is the right choice?

He was elected (thus accountable to the electorate) to executive office and is already in a position of executive authority. If he fails to do a good job then both Pence and Trump who appointed him can be removed from office in a few months.
 
With all the criticism out there, who would have been a better choice to put in charge? I think Trump should have reached across the aisle.

I want to vote for both Pelosi and Schumer since they both have shown the most "concern" for what shoulda' been done but according to at least one of them, "it's too late"... :lamo
 
With all the criticism out there, who would have been a better choice to put in charge? I think Trump should have reached across the aisle.

Anyone with medical training - you know - like maybe a doctor with experience in dealing with infectious diseases. This is a global pandemic and trump's policy of putting people in critically important positions whose only qualification is loyalty to trump won't work when dealing with a crisis like this.
 
Right now the University of Nebraska Medical Center is on the frontline, .

Why don't we get some Trump University people to head this up?
 
He was elected (thus accountable to the electorate) to executive office and is already in a position of executive authority. If he fails to do a good job then both Pence and Trump who appointed him can be removed from office in a few months.

His qualifications would be to surround himself with as many experts as possible, letting them take the lead.
 
Pence doesn't strike me as a decisive leader. Ok, Shumer and Pelosi were tongue in cheek choices since they are running their mouths, pretending to know better. Thus 'other' for more competent persons.

No need to apologize for your poll choices.

Very apt, considering Schumer and Pelosi's hideous comments where both politicized the virus.
 
Anyone with medical training - you know - like maybe a doctor with experience in dealing with infectious diseases. This is a global pandemic and trump's policy of putting people in critically important positions whose only qualification is loyalty to trump won't work when dealing with a crisis like this.

Exactly, the bloated Puppet in Chief needs his own Klan of 'loyal' puppets to boss around.
 
His qualifications would be to surround himself with as many experts as possible, letting them take the lead.

The job of an executive is to evaluate the, often conflicting, "expert" opinions and suggested courses of action and to choose the perceived best among them.
 
With all the criticism out there, who would have been a better choice to put in charge? I think Trump should have reached across the aisle.

The general idea is wwhether or not a very real, fast moving, and dangerous pandemic is best handled by:

a. politicians
b. experts at dealing with such pandemics (scientists/health experts who can manage global response).

You seem to really be fixated on a politician...be it Trump, Pence, or "reaching across the aisle" to I presume more politicians.

That's not a criticism, it's on observation. So do you really think a politician is "best suited" to deal with such events?

I think at least for me, the concern is, especially given this White House, that they appear to prioritize the 2020 election, over everything. Image, etc., are all priorities.
With a health risk like this pandemic, it's best addressed by people who know how to deal with these things, and are looking for best national outcomes, not politics, optics, campaign 2020, etc. Remember, these things move fast, and errors can result in outbreaks which can result in "out of control" situations every easily. People wiling to put national safety first and know the risk/rewards to get their, IMO seem best suited. Politicians can help try to explain it to us, but realistically I'd rather see the experts explain it to us too. This really is a moment that people should remember that politicians have their roles in government, but actually "getting stuff done" is largely up to us ordinary non-politicians who are really good at what we do. A good president should delegate in a manner consistent with that, I believe.

Does any of that sound reasonable to you? Maybe Pence will put an expert basically in charge, and just be a "tie-breaker" on dilemmas, who really knows with this white house. I'm sure if they mess something up, they will try to hide it anyway, go after the people and families that made them look bad, maybe have DOJ start a criminal investigation, you know, the typical.
 
Why don't we get some Trump University people to head this up?

Why don't we all stop being so partisan? This is just so counterproductive, and the coronavirus doesn't make political partisan distinctions. :3oops:
 
With all the criticism out there, who would have been a better choice to put in charge? I think Trump should have reached across the aisle.

Someone with epidemiology training
 
Trump isn't really looking for anyone to resolve the public health emergency. Trump wants to mitigate the economic impact of the corona virus. Trump wants to make certain he is re-elected in November, which is Trump's primary goal. The corona virus might negatively impact Trump's presidential campaign.

Trump was looking for a scapegoat should the corona virus threaten his re-election bid. Trump picked VP Pence. If the fit hits the shan Trump hopes it will stick to Pence and provide Trump with enough distance to declare plausible deniability.

I can't see Pence's plan - at this point it is quite clear that he doesn't have one - including or even giving special attention to America's poor and uninsured.

If you are living hand to mouth it will be damned difficult to be quarantined for 2 weeks and still keep your job. Poor folks are likely to work through illness hoping that they don't have the virus. That would also mean that poor folks are perhaps more likely to expose other people. People without insurance face even greater challenges. What do they do? Where do they go to be diagnosed and treated if needed?

America's poor, many on the lowest rungs of the employment ladder, and America's uninsured are more likely to be non-white. Will Pence stand up for them and in the beginning include them in his prevention, response, treatment, and mitigation plans? It is my guess that America's most vulnerable are by situation most likely to be a factor in community spread of the virus, should the virus spread.

Is Pence the man with the plan for all people equally? Does Pence believe that what we do for others we do for ourselves?
 
With all the criticism out there, who would have been a better choice to put in charge? I think Trump should have reached across the aisle.

It did matter a whit who he picked. They would still be pitching a fit!


Members of the President’s Coronavirus Task Force:

Vice President Pence

Secretary Alex Azar, Department of Health and Human Services
Robert O’Brien, Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs
Dr. Robert Redfield, Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health
Deputy Secretary Stephen Biegun, Department of State
Ken Cuccinelli, Acting Deputy Secretary, Department of Homeland Security
Joel Szabat, Acting Under Secretary for Policy, Department of Transportation
Matthew Pottinger, Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor
Rob Blair, Assistant to the President and Senior Advisor to the Chief of Staff
Joseph Grogan, Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council
Christopher Liddell, Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Coordination
Derek Kan, Executive Associate Director, Office of Management and Budget
 
The job of an executive is to evaluate the, often conflicting, "expert" opinions and suggested courses of action and to choose the perceived best among them.

Yeah how great has this administration been at taking advice from anyone?
 
Trump isn't really looking for anyone to resolve the public health emergency. Trump wants to mitigate the economic impact of the corona virus. Trump wants to make certain he is re-elected in November, which is Trump's primary goal. The corona virus might negatively impact Trump's presidential campaign.

Trump was looking for a scapegoat should the corona virus threaten his re-election bid. Trump picked VP Pence. If the fit hits the shan Trump hopes it will stick to Pence and provide Trump with enough distance to declare plausible deniability.

I can't see Pence's plan - at this point it is quite clear that he doesn't have one - including or even giving special attention to America's poor and uninsured.

If you are living hand to mouth it will be damned difficult to be quarantined for 2 weeks and still keep your job. Poor folks are likely to work through illness hoping that they don't have the virus. That would also mean that poor folks are perhaps more likely to expose other people. People without insurance face even greater challenges. What do they do? Where do they go to be diagnosed and treated if needed?

America's poor, many on the lowest rungs of the employment ladder, and America's uninsured are more likely to be non-white. Will Pence stand up for them and in the beginning include them in his prevention, response, treatment, and mitigation plans? It is my guess that America's most vulnerable are by situation most likely to be a factor in community spread of the virus, should the virus spread.

Is Pence the man with the plan for all people equally? Does Pence believe that what we do for others we do for ourselves?

His plan will be single prayer health care.
 
Why don't we all stop being so partisan? This is just so counterproductive, and the coronavirus doesn't make political partisan distinctions. :3oops:

It's a way for them to attack Trump so that is what they will do!
It's the era of severe Trump hate. :3oops:
 
Based on what?

Based on the ham-handed way he flailed around attempting to handle the HIV crisis while he was governor of Indiana.

Mike Pence, who enabled an HIV outbreak in Indiana, will lead US coronavirus response - The Verge

Pence is not a public health expert, either. Instead, as governor of Indiana, he slashed public health spending and delayed the introduction of needle exchanges, which led to the state’s worst outbreak of HIV. He takes over from Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar who has been heading the White House coronavirus task force since the beginning of January.

Yale epidemiologist Gregg Gonsalves, who conducted the research linking the Indiana HIV outbreak to Pence’s policies, tweeted that the decision “speaks to a lack of seriousness by the White House.”

Nothing would have taken the edge off the knife like putting Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in charge

Ignoring your idiotic post, given she wasn't a choice in the OP's poll, she'd be a much better choice than Mike "Gay Conversion Therapy" Pence.
 
In 2000 Pence said
"Time for a quick reality check," Pence wrote. "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer."

I seriously have reservations about Pence in this role. He claims only 1 in 3 dies from a smoking related illness is some type of positive?

Mike Pence in 2000 said smoking doesn'''t kill people - Business Insider
 
Yeah how great has this administration been at taking advice from anyone?

Great enough to be given more borrowed money, by our ever so sage congress critters, each year in office. ;)
 
With all the criticism out there, who would have been a better choice to put in charge? I think Trump should have reached across the aisle.

The cross agency global pandemic response team. Oh, djt eliminated the team because President Obama created it. What a tool.
 
Your first two poll choices obviously should not be given an executive job (unless they were to resign their legislative job) so that leaves Pence or other. I see no reason (yet) not to let Pence have the job since it should involve the efforts of more than one executive department and selecting Pence does not increase the cost to the taxpayers or muck up the chain of command.

I'm guessing you are unfamiliar with Gov. Pence's response to the HIV pandemic in Indiana. His only actual experience shows why he is the wrong choice.
 
I can think of no one more qualified to deal with pandemics than Ron Klain, Obama's ebola czar.

His extensive medical background was the reason Obama chose him in 2014.
 
I can think of no one more qualified to deal with pandemics than Ron Klain, Obama's ebola czar.

His extensive medical background was the reason Obama chose him in 2014.

Not a bad one for sure.
 
It's a way for them to attack Trump so that is what they will do!
It's the era of severe Trump hate. :3oops:

Hopefully not that White House/Camp David doctor who broke his hippocratic oath and shaved about 100 lbs off of POTUS's weight and gave him a clean bill of mental health.
 
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