Who do you think is right about Rosenstein VS GOP House Members

[JackA]

Thats a very nice speech.

What criminal investigation? For there to be a criminal investigation there must be a proffered crime, what crime was it, specifically? Collusion which is not a statutory offense? Obstruction?

If obstruction, and if we are going to be so all upstanding, why hasnt Rosensteinks recused himself? He does have a conflict correct? He is a witness and participant by drafting the first letter to fire Comey. One cannot very well supervise the investigation of an alleged crime in which one may be called as a witness or may have some culpability as a participant...

Right?


Rod Rosenstein's letter recommending Comey be fired - BBC News


Letter from Deputy AG to the AG, Sessions.

This criminal investigation (from the order appointing Mueller as Special Prosecutor):

"c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these
matters."

Collusion may be a crime depending on the form it takes. If persons in Trump's campaign colluded with Russians to tamper in the election, those acts of collusion would violate federal campaign laws. If the collusion involved bribery, money laundering, the selling of favors, it likely again would rise to criminal activity.

I realize you children like to play with names but let's try to act grown up and refer to him as "Rosenstein". He would have recused himself if he had a conflict but he doesn't, not, obviously, on the basis of the letter firing Comey who was under his supervision and was fired for mishandling the Clinton email investigation.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Dream on.

You are probably correct, its a pipe dream...lefties still wont ever get it. If they did they would know better. Hat tip.

Btw, slightly off topic, but do you think the Muel looks more like Herman Munster or Lurch of the Addams Family? Yes, I rang. :lamo

 

[Hawkeye10]

Wrong, they have no obligation to give their investigative materials to Congress, just so Nunes and his cronies can run them over to the White House.

They have an obligation to the American people to be transparent....please attempt to keep up with me.

 

[Floridafan]

They have an obligation to the American people to be transparent....please attempt to keep up with me.

Does an attorney practice transparency with the information he has to defend his client. Is it posted for all to read, or do we wait until it all comes out in the trial.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Does an attorney practice transparency with the information he has to defend his client. Is it posted for all to read, or do we wait until it all comes out in the trial.

If the Establishment claims that the President is not legit because of Russian interference in our elections then they have at most a few months to prove their case. If they cant do that then the charge should have never been made, and they owe Trump an apology for their lack of civility.


They should not drag this out for years as they are doing, but when they do drag this out for years they owe the American people updates.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

This criminal investigation (from the order appointing Mueller as Special Prosecutor):

"c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these
matters."

Collusion may be a crime depending on the form it takes. If persons in Trump's campaign colluded with Russians to tamper in the election, those acts of collusion would violate federal campaign laws. If the collusion involved bribery, money laundering, the selling of favors, it likely again would rise to criminal activity.

I realize you children like to play with names but let's try to act grown up and refer to him as "Rosenstein". He would have recused himself if he had a conflict but he doesn't, not, obviously, on the basis of the letter firing Comey who was under his supervision and was fired for mishandling the Clinton email investigation.

So no crime.

"If" a crime is not a crime. If a crime is a SC in search of anything it wants. RosenSTEINKS testified this was not to be a fishing expedition. That IS EXACTLY what it has become. About to get shut down, naturally too.

We the people are way onto the injustice of the two tiers.

Nobody is, or nobody in such cases should be allowed to pick a citizen and then go out in search of a crime. That is Stalinist. The state has too much of a weighted advantage, too much power. If this is allowed then from here on we will have such investigations into every president and elected official. Thats not only unjust its just plain stupid. Cannot run a society with such detrimental sillinesses in place.

Its been two years of legal and illegal spying, counter intel operations and investigations against team Trump...what ya got? Nada, zilch, less than nothing.

Oh, and no thank you to all those self appointed grand papas out there that maybe should oughtta trot the walker over to get their false teeth from the soaking glass, put em in cause your words are slurring others that dont adhere to such fuddy duddy humorlessness.

My good googlie mooglies, another blind leftie who could not see a conflict if it was attached to a Russian satellite that just crashed onto their front porch.

But let me hazzard a wild guess, you dont see a conlict with the Muel appointment, either...but probably agree that Sessions HAD to recuse. Right? :doh:lamo

 

[OscarLevant]

This isn't information on an ongoing investigation. It's the memo that contains Mueller's orders from the deputy AG.

The AG ( and Rosenstein, by extension) is under no obligation to cater to every political whim of Congress.

There has, for years, been a tug of war of one type or other over FBI docs. Sometimes they acquiesce, sometimes they don't, in fact, I'll bet more often they don't.

the only teeth congress has over Rosenstein is impeachment, which is not going to happen. Sessions could fire Rosenstein, but I don't see that happening. Trump could fire him, but many in the Senate and Congress have warned him not to.

What is happening is that there is a political motive by a Trump lackey minority in congress, to demand stuff from Rosenstein that which they know he won't give up, in order to build up reasons for impeachment, in order to get Trump to garner more support, until that support rises to a level where Trump can feel safe about firing Rosenstein ( because the impeachment won't get past the Senate, that is certain).

They want to fire Rosenstein so Trump can put a more Trump friendly man in Rosenstein's place so that that new D Ag will narrow Mueller's scope.

That's what is really going on here, pure frickin' politics, of the worst kind.

You know it, everyone knows it, and dont bullcrap this forum.

I say to Rosenstein, screw 'em, do what you gotta do.

To those who say Mueller is out to get Trump, I say this:

WE, the people, have a right to know our leaders are not crooks, so I say to Mueller: go for it.

The ONLY reason they are playing politics is because they KNOW TRUMP is a CROOK, and they don't want Mueller to dig up all Trump's skeletons, because they will have to answer to their constituents for backing a criminal and a scumbag.





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[Casper]

The only reason you and I are conversing on this thread is because of your claim regarding ending the investigation and the 2018 election. That puts the arrogance and BS squarely on you

Truth Triggers You, not news, but easily cured....

 

[apdst]

The AG ( and Rosenstein, by extension) is under no obligation to cater to every political whim of Congress.

There has, for years, been a tug of war of one type or other over FBI docs. Sometimes they acquiesce, sometimes they don't, in fact, I'll bet more often they don't.

the only teeth congress has over Rosenstein is impeachment, which is not going to happen. Sessions could fire Rosenstein, but I don't see that happening. Trump could fire him, but many in the Senate and Congress have warned him not to.

What is happening is that there is a political motive by a Trump lackey minority in congress, to demand stuff from Rosenstein that which they know he won't give up, in order to build up reasons for impeachment, in order to get Trump to garner more support, until that support rises to a level where Trump can feel safe about firing Rosenstein ( because the impeachment won't get past the Senate, that is certain).

They want to fire Rosenstein so Trump can put a more Trump friendly man in Rosenstein's place so that that new D Ag will narrow Mueller's scope.

That's what is really going on here, pure frickin' politics, of the worst kind.

You know it, everyone knows it, and dont bullcrap this forum.

I say to Rosenstein, screw 'em, do what you gotta do.

To those who say Mueller is out to get Trump, I say this:

WE, the people, have a right to know our leaders are not crooks, so I say to Mueller: go for it.

The ONLY reason they are playing politics is because they KNOW TRUMP is a CROOK, and they don't want Mueller to dig up all Trump's skeletons, because they will have to answer to their constituents for backing a criminal and a scumbag.





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Ehhhhh, in this case, yeah Rosenstein is constitutionally obligated to give Congress what it's asking for.

 

[OscarLevant]

Ehhhhh, in this case, yeah Rosenstein is constitutionally obligated to give Congress what it's asking for.

And what about this "Congress"? We're talking about the conspiracy wingnuts of the Freedom Caucus, Rep. Mark Meadows, Nunes, et al., who are making these demands ( for reasons given in the previous comment ).

If they threaten with impeachment, let's see how far it goes.

Not very far, I'm afraid.

 

[Fletch]

Truth Triggers You, not news, but easily cured....

Have you put forward some truth here? No, you have not. Am I triggered? No I am not. Have you lost your way in this back and forth? Yes you have. Not news and not something I plan to cure.

 

[Casper]

Have you put forward some truth here? No, you have not. Am I triggered? No I am not. Have you lost your way in this back and forth? Yes you have. Not news and not something I plan to cure.

You do think highly of yourself, guess that is why you cannot keep from posting. Get back on the topic or run along Skippy.

 

[Fletch]

You do think highly of yourself, guess that is why you cannot keep from posting. Get back on the topic or run along Skippy.

Sadly, you dont get to decide what I post about, or when.

 

[lurchadams]

You are probably correct, its a pipe dream...lefties still wont ever get it. If they did they would know better. Hat tip.

Btw, slightly off topic, but do you think the Muel looks more like Herman Munster or Lurch of the Addams Family? Yes, I rang. :lamo

Awwwwww................ look at this face! How can you make fun of a face like this?

 

[Floridafan]

If the Establishment claims that the President is not legit because of Russian interference in our elections then they have at most a few months to prove their case. If they cant do that then the charge should have never been made, and they owe Trump an apology for their lack of civility.


They should not drag this out for years as they are doing, but when they do drag this out for years they owe the American people updates.

Years, drama queen??

 

[Mycroft]

Years, drama queen??

Mueller's investigation is a continuation of the fraudulent Trump investigation that was started in July 2016, so yeah..."years".

 

[Helix]

Who do you think is right about Rosenstein VS GOP House Members

The house members are trying to run interference for Trump.

 

[Casper]

Awwwwww................ look at this face! How can you make fun of a face like this?

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No one that knows his background laughs at him, he has a history that has made him respected by both Repubs and Dems alike. I would not want to butt heads with him.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Awwwwww................ look at this face! How can you make fun of a face like this?

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Cute kid. With a nice face like that I imagine he could become president one day.




Come(d)y and the Muel....but which is the real Muel?

 

[lurchadams]

Cute kid. With a nice face like that I imagine he could become president one day.

Come(d)y and the Muel....but which is the real Muel?

Speaking of pictures, I found one of Rudy making a speech at a recent yacht club event:

 

[Floridafan]

Mueller's investigation is a continuation of the fraudulent Trump investigation that was started in July 2016, so yeah..."years".

Its terribly sad when a presidential candidate goes under Federal investigation. The lies, the corruption are more than the American people deserve.

 

[Mycroft]

Its terribly sad when a presidential candidate goes under Federal investigation. The lies, the corruption are more than the American people deserve.

It's even worse when that investigation has no basis and is conducted by crooked administration officials who are using their government power for political purposes.

 

[Floridafan]

It's even worse when that investigation has no basis and is conducted by crooked administration officials who are using their government power for political purposes.

What specific EVIDENCE do you have to share with us, that indicates no basis? Not your rancid opinion my dear, evidence!

 

[Mycroft]

What specific EVIDENCE do you have to share with us, that indicates no basis? Not your rancid opinion my dear, evidence!

shrug...

I haven't seen any evidence of lies and corruption. How about you provide evidence of your accusations.

Now...I can provide LOTS of evidence that corrupt administration officials used their government power for political purposes. Of course, there's so much of it it'll require it's own thread. Start one and we'll talk.

 

[Floridafan]

shrug...

I haven't seen any evidence of lies and corruption. How about you provide evidence of your accusations.

Now...I can provide LOTS of evidence that corrupt administration officials used their government power for political purposes. Of course, there's so much of it it'll require it's own thread. Start one and we'll talk.

As usual you don't know schitt. I don't know why I even ask you. You are about as ignorant and mind numbing as they come.