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White House election commission becomes a fiasco for Trump, Kobach

katzgar said:
you are confused trump is the pitiful one that keeps rehashing the election
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Looks to me like The Man Baby is the one who brings it up every week and everywhere he goes ...

America has to put it's democracy on hold until Donny Doll Hands gets his ego pacified and stroked.

Fact: He didn't get the majority of Votes from people who Voted
Fact: His Disapproval Rating have never been below 50%
Fact: His Crowd Size is one of the Smallest Ever at a Presidential Ingratiation
Fact: The International Community is Laughing at his ridiculous ass
 
joG said:
I doubt he is sobbing or hysterical like the liberal msm have been since they were told their ideology was not a winner.
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you are doing the pretend reality again. trump lost the popular vote and CNN's ratings are way up.
 
joG said:
I doubt he is sobbing or hysterical like the liberal msm have been since they were told their ideology was not a winner.
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he keeps ranting about the election and starts some bogus unconstitutional election commission so yeah he is sobbing.
 
katzgar said:
he keeps ranting about the election and starts some bogus unconstitutional election commission so yeah he is sobbing.
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Yep. He said the Russians had been naughty.
 
Mac77 said:
Thats laughable

Liberals are obstructing the investigation because you have something to hide
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bullcrap. republicans are obstructing it because its unconstitutional. There are 33 republican governors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_governors and 44 states have given trump the finger. 44 states won't give some voter info to panel - CNNPolitics.com republicans are the ones that realize trump is just destroying privacy. saying something is laughable is probably a direct qoute from trump.
 
katzgar said:
you are doing the pretend reality again. trump lost the popular vote and CNN's ratings are way up.
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Trump won the vote that counts and the Democrats wasted energy on the one that doesn't. Soo stupid.
Ratings are usually driven by amusement and populism can certainly be that.
 
joG said:
Trump won the vote that counts and the Democrats wasted energy on the one that doesn't. Soo stupid.
Ratings are usually driven by amusement and populism can certainly be that.
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yes he did win the EC but americans dont like him
 
katzgar said:
bullcrap. republicans are obstructing it because its unconstitutional. There are 33 republican governors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_governors and 44 states have given trump the finger. 44 states won't give some voter info to panel - CNNPolitics.com republicans are the ones that realize trump is just destroying privacy. saying something is laughable is probably a direct qoute from trump.
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The request is not unconstitutional

And it is reasonable since trump is not requesting any private information but rather data that is available to the public

So the investigation can proceed without the states cooperation but it will take longer
 
Liberals want to make trump the villian by claiming he is just embarrassed that hillary got more votes.

But during my lifetime democrats have been stealing elections with illegal voters and that hurts me as well as trump
 
joG said:
Is that important to you? Being liked by everyone, I mean?
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nope, I 'm not the one trying to pretend there was fraudulent voting in the election. your diversion attempts are silly.
 
Mac77 said:
The request is not unconstitutional

And it is reasonable since trump is not requesting any private information but rather data that is available to the public

So the investigation can proceed without the states cooperation but it will take longer
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bull crap you dont really get it or is just just pretend? trump is asking for private information that many states cannot share by law. tell your republican states to turn the private data over as its republicans that are primarily saying no to him. your disrespect for the rule of law is unamerican.
 
Mac77 said:
Liberals want to make trump the villian by claiming he is just embarrassed that hillary got more votes.

But during my lifetime democrats have been stealing elections with illegal voters and that hurts me as well as trump
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more bullcrap there has been no proof other than a few nickle and dime cases. republican gerrymandering is really the issue.
 
katzgar said:
bull crap you dont really get it or is just just pretend? trump is asking for private information that many states cannot share by law. tell your republican states to turn the private data over as its republicans that are primarily saying no to him. your disrespect for the rule of law is unamerican.
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Thats not true

He is asking for public information

Every registered voter is publically identified by name, address and party registration, and whether they voted or not

Also who they donated money to

So there is a great deal of information that is public record that can be cross referenced to find fraud which is what liberals are afraid of
 
I fully support this effort to protect MY voting rights by cracking down on illegal voters
 
katzgar said:
more bullcrap there has been no proof other than a few nickle and dime cases. republican gerrymandering is really the issue.
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No proof of massive voter fraud because this type of investigation has never happened before.

And we both know what the answer will be if we do investigate

Your side will lose millions of illegal voters in the next election
 
Mac77 said:
No proof of massive voter fraud because this type of investigation has never happened before.

And we both know what the answer will be if we do investigate

Your side will lose millions of illegal voters in the next election
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I would give your argument a smidgen of credit if you could explain to me how you would organize millions of illegal votes, given our system? Even the great Community Organizer Obama could not pull that off.
 
katzgar said:
nope, I 'm not the one trying to pretend there was fraudulent voting in the election. your diversion attempts are silly.
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Is it "fraudulent" for the Russians to influence the election? Fraud could be employed. That much is true. But it needn't be, you know?
 
Nickyjo said:
I would give your argument a smidgen of credit if you could explain to me how you would organize millions of illegal votes, given our system? Even the great Community Organizer Obama could not pull that off.
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You dont organze millions of illegal sliens

Just leave the door open and they will come in and take what they want
 
Captain Adverse said:
Maybe I am wrong, but wasn't the issue all the complaints from the losers of voter fraud, miscounts, hacking, etc.?

That this was what cost Hillary the election? (Among other excuses.)

I acknowledge he had made complaints about the possibility during his campaign, but once a winner...there is no need to undermine your own election with this type of process.

So correct me if I am wrong, but I thought he was acting on behalf of the losers who were complaining he did not win fair and square.
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The election is the State Matter not Federal, specially when an administration who has systematically gone on wild claims and bending the truth to justify them.

Actually You are Mistaken....


Just to recap the History..

Wisconsin:

Stein ordered the recount and on December 2 Trump Super Pac filed a lawsuit to halt the recount. they lost and Recount continued and Trump won and Election Certified.

Pennsylvania:

Stein Sued and asked for recount. Trump and Republican Part of Pennsylvania sued and asked for recount to stop. They argued the State Law does not Permit a court ordered recount. Then Stein had to withdraw the lawsuit.

So Pennsylvania; Was never certified after Recount so that remains an unknown.

Michigan: Again Stein Sued. Again Trump Super Pack Counter Sued and Michigan Court of Appeals Declared that Stein has no Standing to seek recount because she finished fourth. Michigan unknown...


Nevada

the recount was done the in the recount Clinton lost 9 votes and Trump lost 6 due to absentee errors. No change.


Florida:

the Recount could not begin before the deadline the court dismissed the suit. Florida unknown



So If trump is really interested in the Authenticating the Election result they should go back and Redo Pennsylvania, and Michigan and Florida recount. But That is not what they are asking, they are asking for Nation Wide datum.

if you put ulterior motives aside that is a wild goose chase at best and huge waste of money.

Which is very indicative of the current administration and lack of knowledge how to run government properly...they keep confusing Governing with Ruling!


Diving Mulalh
 
Mac77 said:
Thats not true

He is asking for public information

Every registered voter is publically identified by name, address and party registration, and whether they voted or not

Also who they donated money to

So there is a great deal of information that is public record that can be cross referenced to find fraud which is what liberals are afraid of
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No, he was seeking more than that. Among other things he was seeking was the last 4 digits of the social security numbers.

From the letter sent to connecticut

In addition, in order for the Commission to fully analyze vulnerabilities and issues related to
voter registration and voting, I am requesting that you provide to the Commission the publiclyavailable
voter roll data for Connecticut, including, if publicly available under the laws of your
state, the full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available,
addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social
security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive
status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding
voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen
information.
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