White House Banned Cameras ?????

[radcen]

Isn't that the point of the press sec, to be a shill for the pres?

No more so than the media misleading. You could argue that both sides have degenerated to this, and that'd be true... and sad.

 

[rocket88]

Lie.

Nobody is an extremist perspective.

Being honest is just fine with most people.

That of course does not mean asleep or complicit as they were during the obama occupation.

Lie.

You're upset because they aren't asleep now.

 

[Mustachio]

That's what I'm saying.

A complete and uncut video tells the truth. Show intent, context, and inflection of those who are speaking.

Far more difficult to refute what was said, how it was said, and why.

The Johnny Depp thing is perfect proof of this. Hard for him to deny what he said or how he said it.

Much easier to spin if the only record of it is written words.

That makes no sense. Is it debatable whether or not Bilbo Baggins is a hobbit in the book because all we have is a description of him that clearly says he is a hobbit, whereas in the movie you can see how Hobbit-like he looks. You can edit video, which is a valid argument, except we've been exposed to this argument that the media has been misquoting Republicans in the media since Trump's election. So maybe you and some other people should accept the fact that cameras are banned as a big old middle finger to journalists - and why would that be bothersome to Trump's base?

Have a nice day.

The lack of a retort is an admission of a failed argument if it is substantive, which mine was (and pretty balanced too). But you have every right to not try to debate me.

 

[matchlight]

What's the point of banning cameras? Isn't that potentially a 1st Amendment issue?

Why don't you tell us what First Amendment issue you think this raises? My copy of the Constitution doesn't contain a Camera Clause.

 

[joG]

And that's mostly the point. Why bother allowing access if the so called journalists are not going to report and instead make stuff up?

You think? I wonder.

 

[akyron]

Lie.
You're upset because they aren't asleep now.

Wrong again.

I'm not anything.

Eventually the rabid obvious lying dementia displayed by democrats , the deep state, the scared entrenched establishment leeches on both sides, and the media too shall pass.

It has been exposed for what it is and rejected time and time again.

 

[akyron]

What is the Obama occupation and what would it have to do with this thread in which the trumPutin White House becomes more of 3rd world dicktatorship every day ?

Reminder: If you are truly concerned with Russian cyber intrusions please revisit when the cyber intrusions occurred and who was in charge and who knew about it.

Hint:It was not the present administration.

He was pretty flexible during his second term.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9jOcuqyTef4

 

[Rogue Valley]

Reminder: If you are truly concerned with Russian cyber intrusions please revisit when the cyber intrusions occurred and who was in charge and who knew about it.

Hint:It was not the present administration.

He was pretty flexible during his second term.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9jOcuqyTef4

Trump has been in power since January. What has Trump accomplished in those five months regarding protecting this republic from Russian attacks on our election process?

 

[Thoreau72]

Trump has been in power since January. What has Trump accomplished in those five months regarding protecting this republic from Russian attacks on our election process?

Well, while 'draining the swamp' he appointed his son-in-law to some federal salary or the other....

 

[akyron]

Trump has been in power since January. What has Trump accomplished in those five months regarding protecting this republic from Russian attacks on our election process?

Cyber security upgrade just signed.

Presidential Executive Order on Strengthening the Cybersecurity of Federal Networks and Critical Infrastructure

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...ive-order-strengthening-cybersecurity-federal

 

[Grand Mal]

More importantly, the ability to invent news via deft editing and use of out of context sound bites is removed.

It would seem the left's MSM partners will have to find other methods to create the dog whistles they incessantly blow.

No video recording makes it harder to 'invent news'? That what you're saying? 'Cause if it is, it's bullcrap. It's much easier to 'invent' if there's no video record, but also much easier to deny. There's no legitimate reason for a government official to object to video recording of a press briefing. None.

 

[ocean515]

No video recording makes it harder to 'invent news'? That what you're saying? 'Cause if it is, it's bullcrap. It's much easier to 'invent' if there's no video record, but also much easier to deny. There's no legitimate reason for a government official to object to video recording of a press briefing. None.

No it isn't harder. There are a multitude of examples of out of context sound bites that have been used to present fake, manipulated news.

Removing the ability to selectively edit comments, given the appalling standards the left's MSM has adopted, makes sense.

 

[Grand Mal]

No it isn't harder. There are a multitude of examples of out of context sound bites that have been used to present fake, manipulated news.

Removing the ability to selectively edit comments, given the appalling standards the left's MSM has adopted, makes sense.

You'll have to explain to me how banning recording devices removes the ability to edit comments.
I'm a reporter. You're a government official. I'm not allowed to record what you say, so I just write it. You can't refute anything I write, true or not, but you can deny anything, true or not. That's what this is about, deniability.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Nobody on the right wants them to report information, they want them to report with a right wing bias. Biased press has been with us since the days of Jefferson.

I think you mean Ben Franklin.

And you are correct, any story that does not reflect Trump's Ceasarian qualities is part of a vast left wing conspiracy campaign to debase the great man with a great plan who's going to make America "great again"

If you ask when America wasn't great, or whether he's qualified you are an enemy of the state and must be jailed and then hanged and then shot by firing squad!

 

[American]

So is the definition of an activist a journalist who asks uncomfortable questions? Besides, Spicer and Sanders don't/won't/can't answer half the questions. The briefing has become almost useless already as Trump will tweet out a contradiction to whatever they say so we still don't have a "real answer".

Who's stopping them from asking uncomfortable questions?

 

[Fearandloathing]

With cameras banned, CNN sends sketch artist to White House briefing - Jun. 23, 2017



So seriously? WTF? Is this kindergarten or what? A childish chess match with the most immature one making the rules?

What's the point of banning cameras? Isn't that potentially a 1st Amendment issue?

It's far easier to manipulate/twist words on page/screen than it is to manipulate video with sound.

The tone and context of the person speaking can be completely lost in the written word form.
Much easier to show that with simple video.

The Trump administration has been plagued by what they think is a deliberate attempt to smear him. However what they think is a deliberate attempt to smear him are merely clips of him in very stupid monologue where he appears to be a complete fool. Exampled here in the media is a talk about putting solar panels on "the wall" where he comes across like a two year old who just had his first ever idea, closing with a weird remark "The Panama Canal was a success, right? We did a good job there..."

Such idiocy does not read the same in print of being verbally quoted therefore lessening the impact where they can, like Castle Trump at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. giving him a 'more informed appearance'.

It is the worst form of media restrictions ever imposed in a democratic country.

Be afraid, be very afraid. You're becoming Cuba.

 

[ocean515]

You'll have to explain to me how banning recording devices removes the ability to edit comments.
I'm a reporter. You're a government official. I'm not allowed to record what you say, so I just write it. You can't refute anything I write, true or not, but you can deny anything, true or not. That's what this is about, deniability.

You'll have to explain to me how misrepresenting what the White House has done helps your argument.

Let's return to reality, as your departure from it, and your claim to occupation are only adding evidence to what has already been confirmed about the left's media partners.

With cameras banned, CNN sends sketch artist to White House briefing - Jun. 23, 2017

The White House has been prohibiting cameras at some press briefings, so on Friday CNN got creative and sent a sketch artist.​

So, camera's have been banned at some press briefings. Not all recording devices, and not at all press briefings.

I've provided my opinion of why, and how such a restriction will aid in providing the truth.

 

[Grand Mal]

You'll have to explain to me how misrepresenting what the White House has done helps your argument.

Let's return to reality, as your departure from it, and your claim to occupation are only adding evidence to what has already been confirmed about the left's media partners.

With cameras banned, CNN sends sketch artist to White House briefing - Jun. 23, 2017

The White House has been prohibiting cameras at some press briefings, so on Friday CNN got creative and sent a sketch artist.​

So, camera's have been banned at some press briefings. Not all recording devices, and not at all press briefings.

I've provided my opinion of why, and how such a restriction will aid in providing the truth.

Still not buying it. Barring cameras in no way make it easier to edit comments. They only make it easier to deny.
Think about it. A camera takes a picture. An artist draws a sketch. Which is likely to be more biased?
A microphone makes a recording. A writer writes an account. Which is most likely to be biased?
I don't say that creative editing of recordings isn't possible, I say that drawn pictures and written accounts without bias is impossible. The only thing banning cameras (which are recording devices) accomplishes is make denial easier.
This is a text-based medium and so much nuance is lost by relying on words only that people have to resort to smileys and emoticons to express what they're trying to say. Newspapers don't use smileys and emoticons. Is the writer supposed to put cues in brackets, (sarcasm), (humour), (eyebrows raised, exaggeration), for the sake of accuracy?
It's a chickensh*t move. It's only guaranteed to exacerbate a problem.

 

[cuban smokes]

can't have cameras in the briefing room when Spicer & Sanders are doing the 'wild monkey dance' ............ gonna be a baby in about 9 months ........... they will prolly name it Trumper ........

 

[cpwill]

With cameras banned, CNN sends sketch artist to White House briefing - Jun. 23, 2017



So seriously? WTF? Is this kindergarten or what? A childish chess match with the most immature one making the rules?

What's the point of banning cameras? Isn't that potentially a 1st Amendment issue?

It's far easier to manipulate/twist words on page/screen than it is to manipulate video with sound.

The tone and context of the person speaking can be completely lost in the written word form.
Much easier to show that with simple video.

1. Yes, it seems childish, and designed to avoid embarrassing clips on evening news segments.

2. No, it is not a 1A issue. We got along just fine for more than a century and a half without tv.

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[cpwill]

There was actually a good point made about this.
Instead of reporters acting out and being "activists" they could be journalists.

Kinda like how congress behaves in front of cameras vs how they behave when there aren't any.

I can see that logic. The problem with applying it here is that it seems to require an administration uniquely concerned with maintaining proper decorum. That ain't these folks.

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[ocean515]

Still not buying it. Barring cameras in no way make it easier to edit comments. They only make it easier to deny.
Think about it. A camera takes a picture. An artist draws a sketch. Which is likely to be more biased?
A microphone makes a recording. A writer writes an account. Which is most likely to be biased?
I don't say that creative editing of recordings isn't possible, I say that drawn pictures and written accounts without bias is impossible. The only thing banning cameras (which are recording devices) accomplishes is make denial easier.
This is a text-based medium and so much nuance is lost by relying on words only that people have to resort to smileys and emoticons to express what they're trying to say. Newspapers don't use smileys and emoticons. Is the writer supposed to put cues in brackets, (sarcasm), (humour), (eyebrows raised, exaggeration), for the sake of accuracy?
It's a chickensh*t move. It's only guaranteed to exacerbate a problem.

Since you're struggling with making a argument based on facts, let's shift gears.

Why do you think they banned camera's a certain press briefings?

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

I can see that logic. The problem with applying it here is that it seems to require an administration uniquely concerned with maintaining proper decorum. That ain't these folks.

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I just thought it was a good point.
If that's the case, I think it was a smart move, if not then no.

I generally don't care for most press hearings as they're usually PR junk.

 

[Grand Mal]

Since you're struggling with making a argument based on facts, let's shift gears.

Since you can't discuss this topic without snarky condescension, I'm done with you. You can't seem to address anything I write here and I've heard everything you have to say three times over anyway.

Why do you think they banned camera's a certain press briefings?

 

[Removable Mind]

So they can deny anything they want, there is no video of them saying it.

The current nimrods in charge deny what they say "during live video feeds". They are fearless. When there is no consequences for inappropriate, dishonest, and power mongering behaviors that undermines democracy and freedom - then why the **** stop?