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Where is the MSM outrage?

Moderate Right said:
Look. This is really very simple. The MSM report that there is systemic racism and that it is getting worse. You yourself acknowledge that that is a lie.
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Link(s) to the bolded?
 
Da Mole said:
The blacks murdered by police are NOT just riding their bikes in front of the cops house.
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What do cops have to do with it? What is the obsession with cops? Why report stories that imply that police vs black shootings are getting worse when, if fact, they are NOT getting worse, they are getting better? How come the MSM don't report the stories where non-white cops shoot white criminals? Where are those stories?
 
Moderate Right said:
What do cops have to do with it? What is the obsession with cops? Why report stories that imply that police vs black shootings are getting worse when, if fact, they are NOT getting worse, they are getting better? How come the MSM don't report the stories where non-white cops shoot white criminals? Where are those stories?
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We have much higher expectations of people we give the power to arrest or kill someone under the authority of the state.
 
Xilnik said:
So you cannot explain why police violence against black people has trended down under Trump. Did you notice it has been on the same downward trend since 2013? Could it be that cities and counties started implementing training to prevent those crimes around that time? Police training happens at the state, city, and county levels. It is not predicated on who is president. It seems likely that incidents in 2013 led to police training reform that has helped to some degree.

You also keep making the claim that MSM reporters are saying that systemic racism is getting worse. I have seen no such claims. I have seen claims that it is still an issue. I have seen people say not enough has been done to address it, but I have not seen claims that it is getting worse. I do believe it has become more overt in the past few years, but that is my own observation and opinion. That does not mean it is worse; it only means that it is out in the open more. That may actually be a positive event because it may make it easier to address when it is not hidden. Cell phones with the ability to record video being more common today, and people having the ability to upload that video online, have helped to illuminate incidents that we may otherwise not have heard about.

Do you have links to back up your claims that MSM reporters are claiming systemic racism is worse today than it was five years ago?

So far, I see a lot of claims from you with nothing to substantiate those claims.
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None of that matters. Only the truth matters. The MSM do not report the truth, they report the lie that there is systemic racism and that it is getting worse when it is actually getting better. Why do they lie? Why do the purposely omit the truth? Why do they not report the shootings of whites by non white officers? They have an agenda and any story not fulfilling that agenda is buried.
 
Moderate Right said:
Prove where I said that, word for word. You can't without twisting my words.
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Msm is for profit.

There is no profit in socialism as you define it.

You most definitely did say that the msm was in bed with the socialist democrats.

The only conclusion that can be drawn from the above is that the msm supports socialism.

So the question is: Why would they support a socioeconomic system that would eliminate profit itself?

You made the original claim. The onus is on you to explain it adequately enough for others to debate your position.

So answer the question: Why would for profit entities support a socioeconomic system that (by conservative definition) would spell the end of profit if successfully implemented?

Just admit you were spitting crap you heard in your media that you swallowed without thinking about and ran here to parrot. And now you're mad because doing so made you look foolish.

Which I believe is intentional. I think your media salts its messaging with tidbits so stupid that any liberal would mock you for saying it. So that they can look you in the eye and say "See? We told you liberals think you're stupid".

Its the only reason I can think of for some of the patently ridiculous stuff y'all apparently believe that you got from conservative media. (We can tell because it's always identitcal verbiage and imagery, with no nuance or rejection of any aspect.)
 
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BlueTex said:
So why do you think police departments killing someone, as infrequent they are, is a story worth covering? Could it be the expectations we have of police officers?
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If that were the case we would see more reporting of the more numerous instances of police killing whites. They ALWAYS report the killing of blacks by police officers to promote the propaganda that police kill people for being black.
 
Moderate Right said:
What? YOU yourself provided a link proving what I said! Did you forget already?
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No I didn't. I provided a link showing police on black killings is down over the last few years. You are claiming that others are claiming it is increasing. So I'm asking for evidence of this claim.
 
BlueTex said:
We have much higher expectations of people we give the power to arrest or kill someone under the authority of the state.
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We should have much higher expectations of the MSM to tell the truth that these incidents have been getting better, not worse.
 
Moderate Right said:
None of that matters. Only the truth matters. The MSM do not report the truth, they report the lie that there is systemic racism and that it is getting worse when it is actually getting better. Why do they lie? Why do the purposely omit the truth? Why do they not report the shootings of whites by non white officers? They have an agenda and any story not fulfilling that agenda is buried.
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I see. So we are just supposed to take your word for what you say. A quick Google and Bing search reveals that what you claim has not been pushed by MSM at all.

has systemic racism gotten worse - Google Search
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What if...? said:
Msm is for profit.

There is no profit in socialism as you define it.

You most definitely did say that the msm was in bed with the socialist democrats.

The only conclusion that can be drawn from the above is that the msm supports socialism.

So the question is: Why would they support a socioeconomic system that would eliminate profit itself?

You made the original claim. The onus is on you to explain it adequately enough for others to debate your position.

So answer the question: Why would for profit entities support a socioeconomic system that (by conservative definition) would spell the end of profit if successfully implemented?

Just admit you were spitting crap you heard in your media that you swallowed without thinking about and ran here to parrot. And now you're mad because doing so made you look foolish.

Which I believe is intentional. I think your media salts its messaging with tidbits so stupid that any liberal would mock you for saying it. So that they can look you in the eye and say "See? We told you liberals think you're stupid".

Its the only reason I can think of for some of the patently ridiculous stuff y'all apparently believe that you got from conservative media. (We can tell because it's always identitcal verbiage and imagery, with no nuance or rejection of any aspect.)
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So, you couldn't prove what I said. I already knew that.
 
Airyaman said:
No I didn't. I provided a link showing police on black killings is down over the last few years. You are claiming that others are claiming it is increasing. So I'm asking for evidence of this claim.
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Oh please. All you have to do is watch the news everyday. All they talk about is police on black killings, implying that it is getting worse. Can YOU provide a link where the MSM have reported that these things are actually getting better, not worse? I'll save you the time. They don't report that at all because they are implying that it is getting worse and don't want to report that it is actually getting better.
 
vegas giants said:
Its because the Democrats control all the MSM.


All of it.



They are so powerful
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The man must be insane, poor little guy - poor family. :(

But those are three disjointed sentences if I've ever seen any. Does "Gerorge Soros own ALL the MSM, I thought he was the only "Libby" with that kind of money.

NO Democrats don't control ALL the MSM.

Not even most of it.

"THEY" are so powerful; for sure.

Maybe it's time to start voting for your best interests instead of that of the Oligarchs? It's time for common folk AmeriCANs to realize that "LEFT" and "RIGHT" are contrived associations to keep US at each other's throat's while the .1 of 1% run laughing to the bank.
 
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dixon01767 said:
If that were the case we would see more reporting of the more numerous instances of police killing whites. They ALWAYS report the killing of blacks by police officers to promote the propaganda that police kill people for being black.
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When was the last police shooting in the US?
 
Moderate Right said:
How about that?
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That does not show that MSM is pushing the agenda that systemic racism is getting worse. It also skews the data to show that white people are killed more by police than black people by looking at it with overall population statistics instead of by proportion. There are more white people in America, so of course there will be more white people arrested overall and thus more white people killed at police officers' hands during those arrests. What we know is that when black people are arrested, they are nearly 2.5 times more likely to be killed than white people who are arrested.

• Chart: Black Americans 2.5X More Likely Than Whites to Be Killed By Police | Statista
 
Moderate Right said:
Oh please. All you have to do is watch the news everyday. All they talk about is police on black killings, implying that it is getting worse. Can YOU provide a link where the MSM have reported that these things are actually getting better, not worse? I'll save you the time. They don't report that at all because they are implying that it is getting worse and don't want to report that it is actually getting better.
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So you can't provide anything? Articles? Video clips? Tweets?

Nothing?
 
Moderate Right said:
Show proof that ABC, CBS, NBC, the NYT's or the Washington Post has reported that these things are getting better.
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I did not ask if they reported if things are getting better. I asked you to prove that they are saying they are getting worse. That was your claim. Now you move the goalposts by asking me to prove something different.

If you are going to move the goalposts, there is not much reason to continue debating. You clearly are more interested in pushing your agenda than providing the truth. Your stance is exactly what you are griping about.
 
Moderate Right said:
You know, I've got to the point where I actually support it. Let them defund or disband the police. Let the rioters commit acts of violence and murder. Let them burn their own cities down and destroy and loot businesses. I actually want it to happen. Let the left burn their left cities down. I fully support it. Give them what they want. We've already had blacks destroying BLM murals and other incidents where blacks are begging the police to come back. Let them do whatever they want and the chips fall where they may. That's the only way we are going to get through this.
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I'm coming around to this way of thinking, and appreciate you sharing your pov. I think we both come from a place of consternation and outrage, but you've taken it to the logical, inescapable conclusion while I'm still expecting Democrats to do the right thing and stop the downward spiraling of their cities and towns.
I guess because I can't imagine ignoring the death and ruination without taking action. I can't imagine the level of indifference it takes to sacrifice human and other capital to achieve power.
You are right and I am wrong, but I still somehow hope for a miracle that good people everywhere will rise up against the malicious and treacherous attempts to overturn civilized society.
 
Xilnik said:
That does not show that MSM is pushing the agenda that systemic racism is getting worse. It also skews the data to show that white people are killed more by police than black people by looking at it with overall population statistics instead of by proportion. There are more white people in America, so of course there will be more white people arrested overall and thus more white people killed at police officers' hands during those arrests. What we know is that when black people are arrested, they are nearly 2.5 times more likely to be killed than white people who are arrested.

• Chart: Black Americans 2.5X More Likely Than Whites to Be Killed By Police | Statista
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Less blacks have been killed by police under Trump than under Obama. Why doesn't the MSM report that? With all of the violence, looting, etc doesn't the MSM have an obligation to report that truth? Their omission leads people to believe there is systemic racism and that it is getting worse when in fact it has been getting better. Don't Americans have the right to know that it has been getting better? Wouldn't that save lives and destruction? Why isn't the MSM interested in reporting the truth and saving lives?
 
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