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What's the Point of a Honeymoon In the Modern Era?

Homosexual unions are not equal to heterosexual unions in nature for what should be obvious reasons.

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Marriage has never been about sex or reproduction because there is no fertility test prior to being marriage nor a required oath that the couple in question will produce children or the state will annul the marriage.

I didn't say who aren't pregnant. I said why celebrate single women having bastard children?

You are others don't get to decide how others will live or have children. Nobody is seeking your approval and they don't much care about your misogynistic or conservative religious bigotry.
 
I always thought the main purpose of a honeymoon was for a new married couple to spend time alone (hopefully) together and the main purpose being to consummate their marriage. I.E have sex for with each other for the first time.

But in the modern era, only 5% or so of married couples are virgins when they get married. So what is the point of a honeymoon anyway when the married couple may well have been having sex for months or even years beforehand anyway?

OMG - This is an adorable question! It really cracked me up!
 
Its a vacation after the stress of the marriage preparations and an time to get to know each other as a committed couple.

Why is virginity such a biog deal to conservatives like yourself? Do you think that having sex actually changes a women? Having sex as a virgin is a comedy of errors because you dont know what you are doing and have no confidence. What happens if you aren't sexually compatible, but you only determine this after you get married?

Don't forget the double-standard - that people like the OP expect women to stay "pure" while men are encouraged to go out and sew their wild oats!
 
Seeing London and Northern England was pretty awesome. We both went while not being virgins. That didn't adversely affect the trip.

We had a 2-bedroom luxury condo in Mexico for 10 days. Many adventures were had. Great times!
 
Don't forget the double-standard - that people like the OP expect women to stay "pure" while men are encouraged to go out and sew their wild oats!

It's very nasty how people place a gross sense of "purity" on a women's sex life. It basically makes it out that that's all we are worth, which is sexist and gross beyond belief.
 
It's very nasty how people place a gross sense of "purity" on a women's sex life. It basically makes it out that that's all we are worth, which is sexist and gross beyond belief.

EMNSeattle os one of those types. Look at what he posted in this forum about OAC as a response top her criticizing Goya,

And so she has until maybe 35 to have a baby and if she does it’s flip of a coin whether it will be healthy.

She has expended 90% of her eggs while working totally useless jobs like United States congressman and is unmarried and allegedly dating a guy who’s obviously a beta SIMP who drinks a gallon of soy a day and apologizes for being white.

So now she’s reduced her life to engaging in pointless political squabbles instead of the fulfillment of raising a family. So when she sees Goya’s happy married CEO praising happy married Donald Trump it just causes a snap. She tweets she’s “googling” how to “make her own” adobo. But really she knows she’s rapidly approaching the point where she’ll only ever make her own adobo. It’s truly sad. She traded fulfillment for temporary power. She’ll likely die alone and forgotten unless she makes a 180 on the path she’s on.
AOC Goya tweet exposes sad truth about power and the female psyche
 
Homosexual unions are not equal to heterosexual unions in nature for what should be obvious reasons.

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LOL, you realize that’s a “strap-on,” right?
 
It's very nasty how people place a gross sense of "purity" on a women's sex life. It basically makes it out that that's all we are worth, which is sexist and gross beyond belief.

I agree, Miss Gov! I want everyone from age of consent to be having naughty, dirty sex. To me, that's just self-care and great for mutual mental health. Which makes me circle back to some of our posters here, both male and female - some of these folks could really use a good smashin'!
 
Homosexual unions are not equal to heterosexual unions in nature for what should be obvious reasons.

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Human beings do not pass 120 volt alternating current between each other.

Your idiotic meme makes as much sense as this one from the 1950's.

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You are others don't get to decide how others will live or have children. Nobody is seeking your approval and they don't much care about your misogynistic or conservative religious bigotry.

And we don't care that they can't process the scorn and ridicule that comes at them as a result of their poor life choices. Celebrating their idiocy we are not required to do.

If they aren't seeking our approval, then why are they so triggered by our 'disapproval'?
 
And we don't care that they can't process the scorn and ridicule that comes at them as a result of their poor life choices. Celebrating their idiocy we are not required to do.

If they aren't seeking our approval, then why are they so triggered by our 'disapproval'?

1.) Being LGBT isn't a choice, unless you think that you mad wa choice to be heterosexual? I know that I didn't make a choice to like men. I just always did.

2.) What conservative scorn and ridicule are you referring to? What idiocy are you referring to?

3.) What makes you think that they are seeking your approval just because they exist openly and demand equal rights?
 
I didn't say who aren't pregnant. I said why celebrate single women having bastard children?

Celebrate? Do you know the reason for baby showers? To provide items and needs for the upcoming child.

Dont single mothers have the same needs for a new infant as married ones?

And what's wrong with being a single mother? I know several that have adopted (and were given showers). One who had invitro, and others that chose to have a kid over abortion.

Oh...sorry! I missed that. You are implying that the single mothers should have aborted instead! Got it. It's up to them IMO...if they can afford a child...I see nothing wrong with it.


This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
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Separate but equal is inherently unequal.
Homosexual unions are not equal to heterosexual unions in nature for what should be obvious reasons.
Who cares? What difference does that make in society?

Where does marriage or equality or the Const ever come up in 'nature?'

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
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I always thought the main purpose of a honeymoon was for a new married couple to spend time alone (hopefully) together and the main purpose being to consummate their marriage. I.E have sex for with each other for the first time.

But in the modern era, only 5% or so of married couples are virgins when they get married. So what is the point of a honeymoon anyway when the married couple may well have been having sex for months or even years beforehand anyway?

Virtually all of the traditions of marriage began disintegrating for many decades now. Just as an example, how long have people been writing their own vows? At least two or three generations already! Truth be known, there are as many different types of marriage as there are couples getting married. And with so many different company policies regarding time off availability, that's yet another factor in the 'creating the family' formula. Nowadays, there are probably more 2nd and 3rd marriages than there are 1st ones, and the 1st marriages are happening much, much later in life than they were 60 years ago. When was the last time you heard someone use the expression "spinster"??
 
1.) Being LGBT isn't a choice, unless you think that you mad wa choice to be heterosexual?

NATURE made my choice for me. Nature isn't exactly stupid, there is a reason why there are only TWO sexes/genders. To serve a natural purpose. Anything other than that is only aberration which eventually does not serve nature.

I know that I didn't make a choice to like men. I just always did.

Assuming from your name (Lisa), and then assuming you are female, then "liking" the opposite gender would be nature's choice. Not that humans cannot insert their own will against nature's choice. We could all decide to live under the ocean as the fish do. But not having gills it would not get us too far. Nature would make sure of that.

2.) What conservative scorn and ridicule are you referring to? What idiocy are you referring to?

I said I don't celebrate baby showers for unwed mothers. I see no reason to encourage dumb choices.

3.) What makes you think that they are seeking your approval just because they exist openly and demand equal rights?

I never said anything against equal rights. My only point was that in the natural world their "human will to choose" is not one nature would have chosen for them.
 
Homosexual unions are not equal to heterosexual unions in nature for what should be obvious reasons.

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The point is not whether they are equal, or the same. The point is, these people deserve the same rights.
Just because you're so misinformed that you think homosexuality is acquired, that's not their problem.
Their problem is you sticking your misinformed nose into their lives and telling them what to do.
You have neither the right nor invitation.
 
NATURE made my choice for me. Nature isn't exactly stupid, there is a reason why there are only TWO sexes/genders. To serve a natural purpose. Anything other than that is only aberration which eventually does not serve nature.

How come four leaf clovers didn't wipe out three leaf clovers? They've had several million years to do so.
 
NATURE made my choice for me.

I never said anything against equal rights. My only point was that in the natural world their "human will to choose" is not one nature would have chosen for them.

Why don't you believe that nature made their choice for them, too?
Why do you believe the disproven notion that homosexuality is a choice?
 
And we don't care that they can't process the scorn and ridicule that comes at them as a result of their poor life choices. Celebrating their idiocy we are not required to do.

If they aren't seeking our approval, then why are they so triggered by our 'disapproval'?

They're not.
They're demanding that you stop legislating their morality.
You can disapprove all you like but the law is now settled, and there isn't a damn thing you can do to change that fact.
In your face, homophobe.

Stick to exploring your own latent fears, that's obviously what drives you the most.
 
Why don't you believe that nature made their choice for them, too?

You mean like an anomaly or a birth defect?

Sure, that happens I suppose, but when is it for the overall benefit of a species? Where is the benefit in nature is my question?
 
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