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What would Jesus Do?

Since Catholics themselves made such claims, I guess you'll be taking their word for it then...

For 'what Catholics believe' then yes. Just as I would take the JW web site about what the JW's believe, rather than a Catholic.
 
Jesus was nailed to a cross and he forgave. Getting pulled by a woman and smacking her isn't so bad. The Pope latter apologized. I hope the woman forgave the Pope.
 
Jesus was nailed to a cross and he forgave. Getting pulled by a woman and smacking her isn't so bad. The Pope latter apologized. I hope the woman forgave the Pope.

Getting pulled? I thought she grabbed his hand.
 
Tell you that, if you don't believe in him on bad evidence, you will be tortured for eternity?
 
Tell you that, if you don't believe in him on bad evidence, you will be tortured for eternity?

No, Jesus never made that claim, neither did anyone else in the Bible...he did say...

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life." John 3:16
 
And who else but the RCC has put him up on that pedestal, claiming his divinity, infallibility, and apostolic succession?

That can be attributed to all Christians, with their stated belief that a storybook character actually exists. Once you've established that this character exists, what is strange about someone having better communication with them than your typical person? This happens every day in every society.
 
No, Jesus never made that claim, neither did anyone else in the Bible...he did say...

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life." John 3:16

"47 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was thrown into the sea and gathered fish of every kind. 48 When it was full, men drew it ashore and sat down and sorted the good into containers but threw away the bad. 49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous 50 and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

There are probably twenty more like that.
 
"47 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was thrown into the sea and gathered fish of every kind. 48 When it was full, men drew it ashore and sat down and sorted the good into containers but threw away the bad. 49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous 50 and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

There are probably twenty more like that.

That is a parable which represents something...what happens to anything thrown into a fiery furnace? It is burned up and destroyed...
 
Poor tree! :(

That could have come from the little brat in the Infancy Gospels or the old carol, The Bitter Withy, in which Jesus drowns three boys and curses willow trees.

As it fell out on a bright holiday
Small hail from the sky did fall;
Our Saviour asked his mother dear
If he might go and play at ball.

“At ball? At ball? My own dear son?
It's time that you was gone,
But don't let me hear of any doings
Tonight when you return.”

So up the hill and down the hill
Our sweet young Saviour ran
Until he met three rich lords',
“Good morning to each one.”

“Good morn, good morn, good morn,” said they,
“Good morning,” then said he,
“And which of you three rich young lords
Will play at ball with me?”

“We are all lords' and ladies' sons
Born in a bower and hall,
And you are nothing but a poor maid's child
Born in an ox's stall.”

Sweet Jesus turned him round about,
He did neither laugh nor smile,
But the tears came trickling from his eyes
Like water from the sky.

“If you're all lords' and ladies' sons
Born in your bower and hall,
I'll make you believe in your latter end
I'm an angel above you all”

So he made him a bridge of the beams of the sun
And over the water ran he;
The rich young lords chased after him
And drowned they were all three.

So up the hill and down the hill
Three rich young mothers ran
Saying, “Mary mild, fetch home your child
For ours he's drowned each one.”


Then Mary mild, she took her child
And laid him across her knee
And with a handful of withy twigs
She gave him slashes three.

“Oh bitter withy, oh bitter withy
You've caused me to smart.
And the withy shall be the very first tree
To perish at the heart.”
 
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That is a parable which represents something...what happens to anything thrown into a fiery furnace? It is burned up and destroyed...

There are plenty of passages referring to burning in the lake of fire for eternity.
 
There are plenty of passages referring to burning in the lake of fire for eternity.

Which is the 2nd death....eternal destruction...can death and the grave be burned literally? Or better yet, tormented forever? No...KJV states..."death and hell"...if hell is fiery torment, what is the purpose of throwing it in the lake of fire? The lake of fire represents eternal destruction...to be no more...hell is nothing but the grave...

"And death and the Grave were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire. Furthermore, whoever was not found written in the book of life was hurled into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:14,15

"But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This means the second death.” Revelation 21:8
 
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What do you mean by wwjd? The Pope is mere human just like the rest of us.

Um, that's not what the RCC believes...he's divine, he's infallible .....


That is what YOU believe that the Catholics believe.

Catholics do NOT believe that the Pope is divine.

and for "infallible" - that only occurs in very special cases - about once in a century.
And most Catholics do not believe that either

Catholics are quite different from what rumour or legend says about them.
 
Go to Disneyland
 
There are plenty of passages referring to burning in the lake of fire for eternity.

It seems to me when people quoted those passages, it says the fires are eternal, and Satan and the fallen angels got put there.
 
It seems to me when people quoted those passages, it says the fires are eternal, and Satan and the fallen angels got put there.

Death and hell are also thrown in the lake of fire...things that cannot literally burn for a little while, least of all for eternity...
 
What would Jesus do?

Unlike CLOSET CHRISTIANS ( a "Christian" who wants to go to heaven but is too much of a spiritual wuss to tell others about Jesus), Jesus would preach about his salvation and the Kingdom of God.
 
What would Jesus do?

Unlike CLOSET CHRISTIANS ( a "Christian" who wants to go to heaven but is too much of a spiritual wuss to tell others about Jesus), Jesus would preach about his salvation and the Kingdom of God.

isn't the pontiff already doing that?
 
What would Jesus do?

Unlike CLOSET CHRISTIANS ( a "Christian" who wants to go to heaven but is too much of a spiritual wuss to tell others about Jesus), Jesus would preach about his salvation and the Kingdom of God.

Would Jesus be so obnoxious that he drove people away instead of attracting them, and driving even their own family members from Church?
 
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