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What made dems hate the white working class?

No democrats are christians and the facts back it up. Since democrats love Islam so much they should move to The Middle East.

I'm a Democrat. I'm a Christian.

You are either extremely stupid, or just another amoral, pseudo-Christian rightwinger.

Regardless, based upon your "contributions" thus far, this board is probably a notch above your intellectual pay-grade.
 
They didn't have anything on him day one. But now they do, and it's a doozy.

They did have evidence of Donald Trump's wrongdoing, even before the election when it became obvious that he was the willing beneficiary of Russian involvement in the 2016 election to support his candidacy via Russian troll farms and Wikileaks.
 
They did have evidence of Donald Trump's wrongdoing, even before the election when it became obvious that he was the willing beneficiary of Russian involvement in the 2016 election to support his candidacy via Russian troll farms and Wikileaks.

So why hasn't it been proven yet? Where are the FIRST HAND, eyewitnesses to testify? Where is the solid, concrete evidence?

If you can find it, good. Now you have a case. If all you're basing this on is hyperbole and "witnesses" who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend, then you're basing your argument on what you WANT to believe. Not exactly the truth.


What made democrats hate the white middle class?

Votes.
 
Democrats are the party of elitists in general and don't like the working class, but why do they have so much contempt for the White working class? They don't want to appeal to Rural Voters and farmers. I guess they know their policies suck and would do nothing for them.

I'm so rich claimed candidate trump who once he became president punished rural voters and farmers with his tariffs and then had the taxpayers bail out the farmers with a socialist check from the nanny state.

You are right about one thing, trump isn't an elitist, he's way too stupid. He is however a great con man.
 
So why hasn't it been proven yet? Where are the FIRST HAND, eyewitnesses to testify? Where is the solid, concrete evidence?

If you can find it, good. Now you have a case. If all you're basing this on is hyperbole and "witnesses" who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend, then you're basing your argument on what you WANT to believe. Not exactly the truth.


What made democrats hate the white middle class?

Votes.

You have yet to prove that Democrats hate the white middle class. Repeating the claim doesn't make it true.

Please give 4 examples of democratic policy that is not in the best interest of white middle class voters?
 
OP is an example of the group of delusional Americans, for whatever reason - apparently right-wing talk radio lies are a likely cause.

Republicans are at war with the white working class. They support plutocracy, cutting nearly all spending that benefits the white working class, lower wages, fewer worker rights, a lack of healthcare, a lack of unions, even destroying the environment itself for profit. They're against democracy that is key for the benefit of the white working class.

They also hurt the white working class by trying to divide the working class, to prevent it from being united for its interests against the plutocrats.

White working class who support Republicans are like slaves who fought for the confederacy, saying that the Union was the pro-slavery side.

What can be said about such people? They come and post delusional posts like the OP, and are oblivious to being told it's delusional.

Hillary:

They are probably heading west on I-80 in their trucks with rifle racks right about now.

Obama:

They cling to their guns and religion.


Start over.
 
So why hasn't it been proven yet? Where are the FIRST HAND, eyewitnesses to testify? Where is the solid, concrete evidence?

If you can find it, good. Now you have a case. If all you're basing this on is hyperbole and "witnesses" who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend, then you're basing your argument on what you WANT to believe. Not exactly the truth.


What made democrats hate the white middle class?

Votes.

Hiding behind the whitehouse firewall, of course.

That's where all the firsthand witnesses and docimumentary evidence are.

All of which should be exculpatory if trump is innocent, right?
 
Democrats are the party of elitists in general and don't like the working class, but why do they have so much contempt for the White working class? They don't want to appeal to Rural Voters and farmers. I guess they know their policies suck and would do nothing for them.

Probably their support of labor Unions.....oh wait
 
Please give 4 examples of democratic policy that is not in the best interest of white middle class voters?

1. Repealed the Bush tax cuts at a time of record unemployment.

2. Obamacare. Might have been good for the poors, but it was BRUTAL for the middle class.

3. Their war on private business through taxation, regulation, etc. Hell...let's just call it their "War on anyone not reliant on Government."

4. The Green New Deal that would cost more than the entire GDP and then some. Ignorant promises to the hippies that would put a knife in the backs of everyone else.
 
1. Repealed the Bush tax cuts at a time of record unemployment.

2. Obamacare. Might have been good for the poors, but it was BRUTAL for the middle class.

3. Their war on private business through taxation, regulation, etc. Hell...let's just call it their "War on anyone not reliant on Government."

4. The Green New Deal that would cost more than the entire GDP and then some. Ignorant promises to the hippies that would put a knife in the backs of everyone else.

Not to be contrary, but these aren't great examples

2) ACA was not great and had many mistakes, but I think we suffered more from the debate than the final implementation

3) That's a talking point and not an example; are you referring to OSHA? Specific taxes? What example?

4) GND is just a bad joke at this point and not all dems support the insanity

Don't get me wrong, anything resembling government monopolies or overreach is offensive to me by it's nature, but these are too general
 
So why hasn't it been proven yet? Where are the FIRST HAND, eyewitnesses to testify? Where is the solid, concrete evidence?

If you can find it, good. Now you have a case. If all you're basing this on is hyperbole and "witnesses" who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend, then you're basing your argument on what you WANT to believe. Not exactly the truth.


What made democrats hate the white middle class?

Votes.

The witnesses Trump appointed himself and has actively blocked from testifying? Those witnesses?
 
Democrats are the party of elitists in general and don't like the working class, but why do they have so much contempt for the White working class? They don't want to appeal to Rural Voters and farmers. I guess they know their policies suck and would do nothing for them.

I don't give a **** about delineating the difference between "the working class" and "the WHITE working class" the way you do, because in reality, "THE WORKING CLASS" consists of every single race and culture that exists in this great nation of ours and earns a paycheck.

Democrats are the party of elitists in general in the exact same way that the Republican Party is.
SMELLS LIKE MONEY, and the elites on both sides have lots of it.
That is the scourge of big money in politics, something which was endorsed by several landmark SCOTUS rulings, including Citizens United and McCutcheon v. FEC among others.

From these and other SCOTUS rulings has sprung a brand new "superspecies" of "corporate persons" who are different from real live walking around mortal human persons made of flesh, blood, bone and muscle.
A "corporate person" (*****singular!) is not made of flesh, blood, bone and muscle. They are made of concrete, glass, steel and wire and they consist internally of lawyers and potentially unlimited amounts of money, and they are immortal.

And we are witnessing them stomping around demanding their rights, crushing us mere mortal flesh and blood persons in the process.

---So...in answer to your question, why did the Democrats abandon the working class?
Because the elites had much more money and in order to compete with their counterparts, they needed to access the same streams of money their counterparts had access to.

And as for rural voters and farmers, to be truthful about that, you may want to go and look at what has happened to our small family owned farms ever since the bailouts started.

The president of the Farmer's Union says most of what's happened has not been good:

The Trump administration has tried to mitigate some of the damage with a $16 billion direct aid package to farmers, complete with $14.5 billion going to cash payments and $1.4 billion in bulk purchases by the government. However, a review by the Environmental Working Group, an advocacy organization best known for promoting organic foods, found that more than half of payments made to U.S. farmers went disproportionately to the largest farms, with the top one percent receiving an average of more than $180,000, while 80 percent of subsidized farms were given less than $5,000.

Yes, you're right...it DOES appear that, starting around the 1990's, the ESTABLISHMENT of the Democratic Party, the elites, did begin throwing working American families overboard in favor of larger corporate donors.
The progressive wing OF the Democratic Party has been using that fact to inform THEIR point of view, a point of view that repudiates that trend.
It's the progressives who WANT the Democratic Party establishment to RESTORE the party to being the liberal vanguard, the friend and protector of the working class.
The establishment of our party seems to love the corporate and Wall Street donors more, but notice how progressive candidates will not accept big corporate donations.

That ought to tell you something.
PS: Fix your "white" obsession, it is not a good look for anyone who considers themselves a patriot.
 
Democrats are the party of elitists in general and don't like the working class, but why do they have so much contempt for the White working class? They don't want to appeal to Rural Voters and farmers. I guess they know their policies suck and would do nothing for them.

Welcome to the forum! :2wave:

Both parties are thoroughly corrupt and have nothing but contempt for workers.

Politicians want one thing from them: their vote.

They will offer nothing in return but corruption and lies.

The Republicans pander better, but the Democrats are more honest.

"Basket of deplorables" is what the bulk of both parties believes.

Hope this clears things up.

:thumbs:
 
Yea, I don't care. Liberals wanted to impeach the president since day one so I'm not buying any of this.

You don't CARE or you're allergic to facts?
It is clear that you DO care otherwise you wouldn't be attempting to debate any points.
The question is...does your debate skill set up to par?
You don't appear to be capable of backing up any of your arguments, at least not so far anyway.
 
Democrats are the party of elitists in general and don't like the working class, but why do they have so much contempt for the White working class? They don't want to appeal to Rural Voters and farmers. I guess they know their policies suck and would do nothing for them.

Source?
 
Maybe Russia shouldn't be our enemy anymore.

Maybe they should rein in their GRU and quit practicing weapons grade mass propaganda aimed at tearing down public trust in American institutions and values. Then they wouldn't BE our enemy anymore.
But please, tell us all how friendly they are. Give examples of how Putin is a friend to the American people.
 
Well, since you're broadening the topic from the OP, you're right that Putin is bad, but plutocracy is the biggest threat, far bigger than Putin.

Putin is today's symbol of plutocracy and oligarchy.
 
Putin is today's symbol of plutocracy and oligarchy.

In principle, he's bad for both. But his economy is smaller than Italy's. He isn't a speed bump for the real plutocracy, which is based in the US.
 
"stealing" the election from the coronation of Hillary Clinton, yes I don't mind that at all. I can't stand her and she is vicious. Why didn't you people complain about the 2000 election? Because Bush was the establishment and progressives don't like outside candidates like Trump. Well, that's too bad. Anyone can run for president no matter if they have political experience or not.

What is wrong with you? I could probably show you 1000 posts I've written about the stolen 2000 election.

You are equating progressive and establishment, which are near opposites, where progressives are the ONLY threat to 'establishment', while trump licks their boots? You are deluded.

I don't like Hillary and she is vicious. So you put who want to win above democracy, just as I said you do, and you admit it again here.

You also equate political experience and "establishment". No doubt you would say Michael Bloomberg is not establishment because he has no political experience? It's a waste of time with your posts.
 
Democrats are the party of elitists in general and don't like the working class, but why do they have so much contempt for the White working class? They don't want to appeal to Rural Voters and farmers. I guess they know their policies suck and would do nothing for them.

What made them hate? Threats of personal destruction if they didn't swear allegiance to the propaganda taught by their new Progressive masters.
 
What is wrong with you? I could probably show you 1000 posts I've written about the stolen 2000 election.

You are equating progressive and establishment, which are near opposites, where progressives are the ONLY threat to 'establishment', while trump licks their boots? You are deluded.

I don't like Hillary and she is vicious. So you put who want to win above democracy, just as I said you do, and you admit it again here.

You also equate political experience and "establishment". No doubt you would say Michael Bloomberg is not establishment because he has no political experience? It's a waste of time with your posts.
What is wrong with someone running with no experience who shakes things up in Washington?
 
No democrats are christians and the facts back it up. Since democrats love Islam so much they should move to The Middle East.

Jesus preached loving people, even your enemies, and obviously people of different religions. Bradt things opposing Muslims for being Muslim and opposing barring all Muslims from the US is "loving" Muslims too much. He's the same as a Nazi, basically, and blinded to who he is.
 
What made them hate? Threats of personal destruction if they didn't swear allegiance to the propaganda taught by their new Progressive masters.

Pure projection. Anyone who doesn't lick Trump's boots is an enemy to you.
 
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