What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

[zyzygy]

Are you hoping that abstinence only sex ed will reduce teen pregnancy rates? Because if so, it probably won't work.
Teenage pregnancy in the United States - Wikipedia

As you may notice, the bible belt has a higher rate of teen births than the rest of the country.

And Holland, with full and frank sexual education, has the lowest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe. Ignorance is not bliss.

 

[Angel]

And Holland, with full and frank sexual education, has the lowest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe. Ignorance is not bliss.

And your post, with its post hoc ergo propter hoc argument, is a form of facile pop argumentation, like the argument for gun ownership that cites Switzerland. It is fallacious.

 

[Masterhawk]

And your post, with its post hoc ergo propter hoc argument, is a form of facile pop argumentation, like the argument for gun ownership that cites Switzerland. It is fallacious.

It certainly disproves the notion that it drives teen pregnancy.

 

[Angel]

And Holland, with full and frank sexual education, has the lowest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe. Ignorance is not bliss.

And your post, with its post hoc ergo propter hoc argument, is a form of facile pop argumentation, like the argument for gun ownership that cites Switzerland. It is fallacious.

It certainly disproves the notion that it drives teen pregnancy.

Not necessarily. There are other factors involved, which zyzygy ignores in drawing his quick and facile conclusion. To attribute the absence of mass shootings in Switzerland to its gun culture is a similar fallacy.

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc - RationalWiki
Correlation does not imply causation
Correlation does not imply causation - RationalWiki

 

[Dragonlady]

California, in just one example, has passed a sex education law requiring that homosexuality, transgenderism and explicit sexual practices and devices be taught in schools, and that anything religious in nature be banned from the instruction. Wicked men and women see no problem with such perversion, but God and good Christians certainly do see big problems with the perversions being forced on little kids inside or outside an educational environment.

California's Education Code 51930-51939

...the bill, which was amended to force transgender and LGBT material into the curriculum; material that included "education" on lubricants, sex toys and anal sex.

This is not safe education, it is perversion leading to huge problems in the lives of those who get caught up in the perversions. Here are snippets from the specific language of the bill:

Encourage the use of lubricants as it improves the quality of sex.
Some teachers are telling teenage daughters of unsuspecting parents how to have pleasure in sex, how to engager in perverted sex, and how to use sex toys to increase pleasure. Parents should be alarmed at this. Teachers are pushing perversions on innocent girls and if parents do not protect them then nobody will. That is tragic.

Suggest using adequate stimulation...

Recommend finding a safe. private environment and comfortable sexual position.

Tell 13-year-old girls that for their 'health?' Those who wrote this and promote it are all ungodly perverts.

California's New Sex-Ed Curriculum is About to Roll Out...What You Need to Know

As shocking you may consider the idea of teaching school age girls about anal sex, here is the harsh reality Pops!

Right wing Christian "virginity pledges", and the emphasis by some Christian sects, on remaining a "virgin" until you marry, has created an entire generation of young Christian women who can now suck the chrome off your bumpers, while cheerfully taking it up the ass. As long as they they don't have vaginal sex, they are still "technical virgins". This is God's law of unintended consequences. Trying to force teenagers to remain virgins until they wed, has created the most sexually perverted general in history.

When I was growing up, I thought only gay men had anal sex. I didn't know that straight couples had anal sex until I was 30. I never even saw a porno movie until I was over 30. These kids have all seen internet porn, which is now free and open.

Today, sex education needs to cover a whole range of things that weren't need, or weren't taught when we were growing up. We should have been taught about gay sex, but weren't. Some of our classmates really suffered for that. Consent needs to be understood as well. Studies have shown that when Consent and what it means are taught in school, reported incidents of rape and sexual assault drop. Kids need to learn about internet luring, grooming and other things we never had to consider.

So yes. Give the kids the facts. Give them the information they will need to keep them safe and healthy, and before their heads are filled with a lot of crap that isn't true. (I have a friend who had a baby because she believed the old wive's tale that you couldn't get pregnant on your first time). The internet wives tales are much worse, and more dangerous.

 

[marke]

As shocking you may consider the idea of teaching school age girls about anal sex, here is the harsh reality Pops!

Right wing Christian "virginity pledges", and the emphasis by some Christian sects, on remaining a "virgin" until you marry, has created an entire generation of young Christian women who can now suck the chrome off your bumpers, while cheerfully taking it up the ass. As long as they they don't have vaginal sex, they are still "technical virgins". This is God's law of unintended consequences. Trying to force teenagers to remain virgins until they wed, has created the most sexually perverted general in history.

When I was growing up, I thought only gay men had anal sex. I didn't know that straight couples had anal sex until I was 30. I never even saw a porno movie until I was over 30. These kids have all seen internet porn, which is now free and open.

Today, sex education needs to cover a whole range of things that weren't need, or weren't taught when we were growing up. We should have been taught about gay sex, but weren't. Some of our classmates really suffered for that. Consent needs to be understood as well. Studies have shown that when Consent and what it means are taught in school, reported incidents of rape and sexual assault drop. Kids need to learn about internet luring, grooming and other things we never had to consider.

So yes. Give the kids the facts. Give them the information they will need to keep them safe and healthy, and before their heads are filled with a lot of crap that isn't true. (I have a friend who had a baby because she believed the old wive's tale that you couldn't get pregnant on your first time). The internet wives tales are much worse, and more dangerous.

Christians teach their children that sex is clean, pure, wholesome and right in a marriage relationship between a husband and wife. Barbarians teach their kids all sorts of abominable junk to force them into the steamy world of immoral sex with such details of perverted immoral unhealthy gutter sex that would make a seasoned harlot blush.

 

[Dragonlady]

Christians teach their children that sex is clean, pure, wholesome and right in a marriage relationship between a husband and wife. Barbarians teach their kids all sorts of abominable junk to force them into the steamy world of immoral sex with such details of perverted immoral unhealthy gutter sex that would make a seasoned harlot blush.

Well then fundamentalist Christians are forcing their daughters into the steamy world of immoral sex, because religious school teachers tell me the problem is endemnic. Parents haven't a clue what is going on, and the girls are learning nothing from their parents, because the parents haven't even heard about half of this stuff. Please note that evangelicals are also having 18% of the abortions in the USA, so what they say and what they do are two different things.

Please note that I have yet to meet a Christian who taught their child ANYTHING about sex, other than don't do it. That's not helpful, and probably the reason why 18% of abortions are performed at the request of evangelical women.

 

[calamity]

Christians teach their children that sex is clean, pure, wholesome and right in a marriage relationship between a husband and wife. Barbarians teach their kids all sorts of abominable junk to force them into the steamy world of immoral sex with such details of perverted immoral unhealthy gutter sex that would make a seasoned harlot blush.

lol...I doubt that is true.

 

[zyzygy]

lol...I doubt that is true.

You can be sure that it is not true.

 

[Logician Man]

lol...I doubt that is true.

:lol:

 

[Integrityrespec]

California, in just one example, has passed a sex education law requiring that homosexuality, transgenderism and explicit sexual practices and devices be taught in schools, and that anything religious in nature be banned from the instruction. Wicked men and women see no problem with such perversion, but God and good Christians certainly do see big problems with the perversions being forced on little kids inside or outside an educational environment.

California's Education Code 51930-51939

...the bill, which was amended to force transgender and LGBT material into the curriculum; material that included "education" on lubricants, sex toys and anal sex.

This is not safe education, it is perversion leading to huge problems in the lives of those who get caught up in the perversions. Here are snippets from the specific language of the bill:

Encourage the use of lubricants as it improves the quality of sex.
Some teachers are telling teenage daughters of unsuspecting parents how to have pleasure in sex, how to engager in perverted sex, and how to use sex toys to increase pleasure. Parents should be alarmed at this. Teachers are pushing perversions on innocent girls and if parents do not protect them then nobody will. That is tragic.

Suggest using adequate stimulation...

Recommend finding a safe. private environment and comfortable sexual position.

Tell 13-year-old girls that for their 'health?' Those who wrote this and promote it are all ungodly perverts.

California's New Sex-Ed Curriculum is About to Roll Out...What You Need to Know

Californians have only themselves to blame because of the votes they have cast to allow those types of people to rise to leadership and decision making positions.

Maybe all that shaking that goes on in California is a higher power trying to warn them.

 

[marke]

Well then fundamentalist Christians are forcing their daughters into the steamy world of immoral sex, because religious school teachers tell me the problem is endemnic. Parents haven't a clue what is going on, and the girls are learning nothing from their parents, because the parents haven't even heard about half of this stuff. Please note that evangelicals are also having 18% of the abortions in the USA, so what they say and what they do are two different things.

Please note that I have yet to meet a Christian who taught their child ANYTHING about sex, other than don't do it. That's not helpful, and probably the reason why 18% of abortions are performed at the request of evangelical women.

Unlike loose-lipped women on the sex circuit, Christians do not go around talking about sex all the time and blabbing to the world how intimate they get with their young children in teaching the bloody details of gutter sex. Christians protect their children from heavy breathing sex instructors and their converts among other children as best they can to prevent them from having sex with kids who don't know what the heck they are doing.

 

[Angel]

lol...I doubt that is true.

You can be sure that it is not true.

:lol:

Rising to the bait, as opposed to rising to debate, once again, are we, good fellows?

Why, it's positively Pavlovian!

Like some magical incantation!

At the mere mention of the word "Christian"!

Shazam!


Now:


Knowledge is power, you say.

Okay.

But wisdom is knowing that we know nothing.

Socrates say.


Of course Our Sages Three will up at once and reply: "But if we know nothing, then we don't know that we know nothing!"

In three-part harmony.

Ah, the wit! the whimsy! the wry wherewithal!

But see here:

If we don't know that we know nothing, then we don't know that we don't know that we know nothing, no?

Whiterto now, bravos?

Are we to presume to teach the ignorant race of men the meaning of sex and sexuality?

You guys slay me!​

 

[Logician Man]

Rising to the bait, as opposed to rising to debate, once again, are we, good fellows?

Why, it's positively Pavlovian!

Like some magical incantation!

At the mere mention of the word "Christian"!

Shazam!


Now:


Knowledge is power, you say.

Okay.

But wisdom is knowing that we know nothing.

Socrates say.


Of course Our Sages Three will up at once and reply: "But if we know nothing, then we don't know that we know nothing!"

In three-part harmony.

Ah, the wit! the whimsy! the wry wherewithal!

But see here:

If we don't know that we know nothing, then we don't know that we don't know that we know nothing, no?

Whiterto now, bravos?

Are we to presume to teach the ignorant race of men the meaning of sex and sexuality?

You guys slay me!​

:laughat:

 

[zyzygy]

:laughat:

Why does Angel post in that idiotic style?

 

[Logician Man]

Why does Angel post in that idiotic style?

The Devil makes him do it ?

 

[Dragonlady]

Unlike loose-lipped women on the sex circuit, Christians do not go around talking about sex all the time and blabbing to the world how intimate they get with their young children in teaching the bloody details of gutter sex. Christians protect their children from heavy breathing sex instructors and their converts among other children as best they can to prevent them from having sex with kids who don't know what the heck they are doing.

"Heavy breathing sex instructors"?!?!?!? Are you deranged?? Teachers aren't telling children about their own personal experiences. These are not "how to" classes. You seem to consider an academic discussion of biological functions, and the risks associated with certain sexual acts to be some sort of highly pornographic and lurid induction into perverted sex. Are you incapable of engaging in any of discussion without making it lurid. I have never discussed intimate details of my sex life with their father with any of my children, although they are aware that our marriage ended because of his infidelities. I most certainly had discussions of the dangers of STD's with my kids.

Christians are useless at imparting sexual information to their children precisely because they DON'T talk about sex. And they don't know anything about what's going on and what their children are doing because they don't talk about sex. You've admitted it. "Christians do not go around talking about sex". Do you know what you're kids are doing? Do you think they'd tell you if they're having sex? Did you tell your parents?

Everywhere that your Christian School, abstinence only sex ed programs have been instituted, rates of STD's and abortion have gone up.

Sexuality education policies and sexually transmitted disease rates in the United States of America. - PubMed - NCBI

Sexuality education policies and sexually transmitted disease rates in the United States of America. - PubMed - NCBI

From the overview of the second study:

States with no mandates for abstinence had the lowest mean rates of infection among the overall population and among adolescents. States with mandates emphasizing abstinence had the highest rates; states with mandates to cover (but not emphasize) abstinence fell in between.

Quite frankly, the fastest way to turn kids off of sex is to tell them about it. "I'm not doingTHAT!!! THAT'S DISGUSTING! That was my reaction to my first sex education class. That was pretty much the reaction of all of my female classmates too. That was also my reaction to being told what a blow job was as well. The subject of heterosexual anal sex never came up.

Consent didn't come up either. We were told, in mixed classrooms, that if things got out of hand, the girl was always to blame, because, the boys were far more easily aroused, so it was up to us to put the brakes on. The boys just couldn't help themselves. It's not their fault if the girls let things go too far. This gave license to the boys - it's not their fault. Only a total witch with a b, would leave a guy with "blue balls". Like he could go and finish it himself 5 minutes after he dropped her off, or even excuse himself and go to the washroom.

Added to which, at church we were told that if we weren't virgins on our wedding days, no decent man would ever want to marry us. Christians are still using this last one, which is why today's Christian girls are doing things that drug addict hookers only did for bonus bucks in my day, and no Christian boy would never even have had suggested to us, to avoid vaginal intercourse.

 

[marke]

"Heavy breathing sex instructors"?!?!?!? Are you deranged?? Teachers aren't telling children about their own personal experiences. These are not "how to" classes. You seem to consider an academic discussion of biological functions, and the risks associated with certain sexual acts to be some sort of highly pornographic and lurid induction into perverted sex. Are you incapable of engaging in any of discussion without making it lurid. I have never discussed intimate details of my sex life with their father with any of my children, although they are aware that our marriage ended because of his infidelities. I most certainly had discussions of the dangers of STD's with my kids.

Christians are useless at imparting sexual information to their children precisely because they DON'T talk about sex. And they don't know anything about what's going on and what their children are doing because they don't talk about sex. You've admitted it. "Christians do not go around talking about sex". Do you know what you're kids are doing? Do you think they'd tell you if they're having sex? Did you tell your parents?

Everywhere that your Christian School, abstinence only sex ed programs have been instituted, rates of STD's and abortion have gone up.

Sexuality education policies and sexually transmitted disease rates in the United States of America. - PubMed - NCBI

Sexuality education policies and sexually transmitted disease rates in the United States of America. - PubMed - NCBI

From the overview of the second study:



Quite frankly, the fastest way to turn kids off of sex is to tell them about it. "I'm not doingTHAT!!! THAT'S DISGUSTING! That was my reaction to my first sex education class. That was pretty much the reaction of all of my female classmates too. That was also my reaction to being told what a blow job was as well. The subject of heterosexual anal sex never came up.

Consent didn't come up either. We were told, in mixed classrooms, that if things got out of hand, the girl was always to blame, because, the boys were far more easily aroused, so it was up to us to put the brakes on. The boys just couldn't help themselves. It's not their fault if the girls let things go too far. This gave license to the boys - it's not their fault. Only a total witch with a b, would leave a guy with "blue balls". Like he could go and finish it himself 5 minutes after he dropped her off, or even excuse himself and go to the washroom.

Added to which, at church we were told that if we weren't virgins on our wedding days, no decent man would ever want to marry us. Christians are still using this last one, which is why today's Christian girls are doing things that drug addict hookers only did for bonus bucks in my day, and no Christian boy would never even have had suggested to us, to avoid vaginal intercourse.

You can keep your bad opinions about Christians and sex education to yourself for all I care. I don't agree with all of that crap.

 

[OscarLevant]

California, in just one example, has passed a sex education law requiring that homosexuality, transgenderism and explicit sexual practices and devices be taught in schools, and that anything religious in nature be banned from the instruction. Wicked men and women see no problem with such perversion, but God and good Christians certainly do see big problems with the perversions being forced on little kids inside or outside an educational environment.

California's Education Code 51930-51939

...the bill, which was amended to force transgender and LGBT material into the curriculum; material that included "education" on lubricants, sex toys and anal sex.

This is not safe education, it is perversion leading to huge problems in the lives of those who get caught up in the perversions. Here are snippets from the specific language of the bill:

Encourage the use of lubricants as it improves the quality of sex.
Some teachers are telling teenage daughters of unsuspecting parents how to have pleasure in sex, how to engager in perverted sex, and how to use sex toys to increase pleasure. Parents should be alarmed at this. Teachers are pushing perversions on innocent girls and if parents do not protect them then nobody will. That is tragic.

Suggest using adequate stimulation...

Recommend finding a safe. private environment and comfortable sexual position.

Tell 13-year-old girls that for their 'health?' Those who wrote this and promote it are all ungodly perverts.

California's New Sex-Ed Curriculum is About to Roll Out...What You Need to Know

That's rich coming from someone who supports the right wing, the same people who appointed two perverts to the Supreme Court and one pervert to the presidency

 

[marke]

That's rich coming from someone who supports the right wing, the same people who appointed two perverts to the Supreme Court and one pervert to the presidency

Democrat definition of pervert: Someone who gets in the way of democrats fighting to promote the ungodly leftist anti-American democrat socialist agenda.

 

[OscarLevant]

Democrat definition of pervert: Someone who gets in the way of democrats fighting to promote the ungodly leftist anti-American democrat socialist agenda.

No the three individuals I mentioned committed sexual assault on women one of them bragged about it.

 

[Angel]

That's rich coming from someone who supports the right wing, the same people who appointed two perverts to the Supreme Court and one pervert to the presidency

Democrat definition of pervert: Someone who gets in the way of democrats fighting to promote the ungodly leftist anti-American democrat socialist agenda.

No the three individuals I mentioned committed sexual assault on women one of them bragged about it.

It is only by way of the perversion of language and its attendant conceptual perversion that many today, like you, are speaking of "sexual assault" and calling people "perverts" -- and speaking thus on the basis of allegation merely, which is a perversion of the basic principle of American Justice. So who's calling who "pervert" today in America?

 

[Angel]

Rising to the bait, as opposed to rising to debate, once again, are we, good fellows?

Why, it's positively Pavlovian!

Like some magical incantation!

At the mere mention of the word "Christian"!

Shazam!


Now:


Knowledge is power, you say.

Okay.

But wisdom is knowing that we know nothing.

Socrates say.


Of course Our Sages Three will up at once and reply: "But if we know nothing, then we don't know that we know nothing!"

In three-part harmony.

Ah, the wit! the whimsy! the wry wherewithal!

But see here:

If we don't know that we know nothing, then we don't know that we don't know that we know nothing, no?

Whiterto now, bravos?

Are we to presume to teach the ignorant race of men the meaning of sex and sexuality?

You guys slay me!​

Why does Angel post in that idiotic style?

Clearly for your benefit.

 

[whatisanopinion]

The goals of CSE (government endorsed comprehensive sex education):

1. Teach kids to masturbate.
2. Teach kids to accept and explore diverse sexual orientations.
3. Promote high risk sexual behaviors including anal and oral sex, and teach that such sex is safe and healthy.
4. Teach kids how to achieve pleasure in sex.
5. Teach kids that sexual promiscuity is good and is an individual right.
6. Teach that abortion is good, is safe and has no negative consequences.
7. Encourage kids to experiment with sex among their peers of both sexes.
8. Teach kids of both sexes how to use condoms, why they are needed and do not inform them of failure rates.
9. Teach kids that religious objections to sexual promiscuity and perversion are lies to be dismissed as harmful myths.
10. Teach kids to disrespect parents who oppose sexual experimentation among kids or parents who promote Biblical objections to ungodly sexual activities.
11. Teach kids to confide in school officials (without parental consent or knowledge) about sexual issues and abortion.
12. Teach kids to pursue legal remedies against parents who oppose their sexual experimentation.

StopCSE.org | How CSE Harms Children

Leftist liberals see no problem with these goals of SEICUS and CSE, but these perversions being forced onto American kids will do great damage to the future soundness and security of the whole nation if not stopped by people with good sense and morals.

Hahaha wtf, did you honestly just lost your own fears and paranoid conclusions as fact? Please tell me in what school theu are vilifying bible parents, or encouraging same sex experimentation. All theyre doing is laying out REAL WORLD scenarios so these poor kids dont get blindsided or taken advantage of. How insecure do you have to be to hate the fact that schools are finally teachung real world skills? Kids have sex, kids fool around, kids get into hot water... why not arm them with some baseline knowledge.

 

[marke]

Hahaha wtf, did you honestly just lost your own fears and paranoid conclusions as fact? Please tell me in what school theu are vilifying bible parents, or encouraging same sex experimentation. All theyre doing is laying out REAL WORLD scenarios so these poor kids dont get blindsided or taken advantage of. How insecure do you have to be to hate the fact that schools are finally teachung real world skills? Kids have sex, kids fool around, kids get into hot water... why not arm them with some baseline knowledge.

That's the way the savages think. Kids are going to have sex anyway so let's teach them how to do it.