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What is wrong with Quantum Mechanics?

Lord of Planar said:
Those studying it simply haven't figured it all out yet. They aren't Gods. It takes time and research.

We still don't know how gravity actually works, but we witness it in every day life.
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well, see my other thread, Gravity is a myth. It is soiooo wrong, But because we are so used to it , and take it for granted, we rarely discuss, let alone, really examine it. oh and btw QM is still bollocks. It just simply doesn't work.
 
Palandro said:
Nope, not all. Please do some research where that theory came from.



True, but even the scientists don't understand it. Anyway, I don't reject it because I don't understand it,
I reject it because it is wrong and doesn't work. It is as simple as that.
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You have not provided evidence.
 
Palandro said:
well, see my other thread, Gravity is a myth. It is soiooo wrong, But because we are so used to it , and take it for granted, we rarely discuss, let alone, really examine it. oh and btw QM is still bollocks. It just simply doesn't work.
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Buoyancy
 
Re: The family business

marke said:
I don't reject evolution on the basis of religion. I reject evolution on the basis of its flaws and contradictions proven by solid scientific evidence.
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What solid evidence?
 
Re: The family business

ataraxia said:
What solid evidence?
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Hundreds of reasons. The genetic code guarantees humans cannot mate with animals and have human-ape offspring and animals cannot give birth to half or partial human/animals. And so friggingly obviously forth.
 
Re: The family business

marke said:
Hundreds of reasons. The genetic code guarantees humans cannot mate with animals and have human-ape offspring and animals cannot give birth to half or partial human/animals. And so friggingly obviously forth.
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We did ask for evidence and not your ill-informed opinion. Apes and Mankind have a common ancestor, there were no humans around to mate with apes. Read up on evolution.
 
Re: The family business

ataraxia said:
What solid evidence?
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I said that it would be good! Mankind and apes mating! :lamo:lamo That is what market calls solid evidence. :lamo:lamo
 
Re: The family business

marke said:
Hundreds of reasons. The genetic code guarantees humans cannot mate with animals and have human-ape offspring and animals cannot give birth to half or partial human/animals. And so friggingly obviously forth.
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Yeah sure. That’s called speciation- an important part of evolution. That’s evidence for what?
 
Re: The family business

zyzygy said:
I said that it would be good! Mankind and apes mating! :lamo:lamo That is what market calls solid evidence. :lamo:lamo
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I know. Some intro science courses, like in physics and biology, we do folks like this a world of good. Heck, society should pay for it, as it’s clear from the abject scientific illiteracy on this thread that we would all benefit from such education for the public.

Oh wait, Obama and Hillary did propose government paying for community college education. It was shut down by the conservatives. It would clearly interfere with their propaganda messages. So here we are, trying to defend freshman-level science against Bronze Age mythology.
 
Re: The family business

marke said:
I was there. The evolutionist professor saw any scientific evidence which contradicted evolution as a matter of religion to be rejected without discussion. I have no idea where morons like him get such stupid uneducated ideas.
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In the US? From the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925 CE, Dayton, TN. It was famous; plays, movies & tons of newsprint & barrels of ink must have been spilled in the telling of the tale.
 
Re: The family business

ataraxia said:
Yeah sure. That’s called speciation- an important part of evolution. That’s evidence for what?
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How solid are the facts and evidence supporting various ideas floated in academia on the subject of speciation? It seems likely there is much scientific evidence to support the claims of speciation changes from one type of bacteria to another. But what about the claims that dinosaurs morphed into birds? Is there a serious lack of fossil evidence to support such a wild hypothesis? Was it not because of the lack of fossil support for the speculations that the archaeoraptor 'evidence' was invented and rapidly gained so much attention among evolutionists desperate to find something to support the wild dinosaur-to-bird assumptions? Is dinosaur-to bird theory observable scientific fact or interpretative theory?

Evolution is not science, it is science speculation. Science is the record of observed facts, not speculations, interpretations, postulations, assumptions, opinions and guesses.

Dawkins22.webp
 
Re: The family business

ataraxia said:
Yeah sure. That’s called speciation- an important part of evolution. That’s evidence for what?
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Evidence for his ignorance of evolution.
 
Re: The family business

marke said:
How solid are the facts and evidence supporting various ideas floated in academia on the subject of speciation? It seems likely there is much scientific evidence to support the claims of speciation changes from one type of bacteria to another. But what about the claims that dinosaurs morphed into birds? Is there a serious lack of fossil evidence to support such a wild hypothesis? Was it not because of the lack of fossil support for the speculations that the archaeoraptor 'evidence' was invented and rapidly gained so much attention among evolutionists desperate to find something to support the wild dinosaur-to-bird assumptions? Is dinosaur-to bird theory observable scientific fact or interpretative theory?

Evolution is not science, it is science speculation. Science is the record of observed facts, not speculations, interpretations, postulations, assumptions, opinions and guesses.

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Wrong

Scientists have discovered the specific mutation that famously turned moths black during the Industrial Revolution.

In an iconic evolutionary case study, a black form of the peppered moth rapidly took over in industrial parts of the UK during the 1800s, as soot blackened the tree trunks and walls of its habitat.

Now, researchers from the University of Liverpool have pinpointed the genetic change that caused this adaptation.

They have also calculated the most likely date for the mutation - 1819.

Famous peppered moth's dark secret revealed - BBC News
 
Re: The family business

southwest88 said:
In the US? From the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925 CE, Dayton, TN. It was famous; plays, movies & tons of newsprint & barrels of ink must have been spilled in the telling of the tale.
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Every evolutionist claim in the Scopes Monkey trial was later debunked by real scientific evidence, from the fictitious 180 vestigial organs nonsense to the criminal Piltdown Man hoax.
 
Re: The family business

zyzygy said:
Wrong

Scientists have discovered the specific mutation that famously turned moths black during the Industrial Revolution.

In an iconic evolutionary case study, a black form of the peppered moth rapidly took over in industrial parts of the UK during the 1800s, as soot blackened the tree trunks and walls of its habitat.
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I forgot to mention moths. I believe there is evidence to support human interpretations of evolution which involve moths evolving into moths as well as bacteria evolving into bacteria. Sorry for the slip-up.
 
Re: The family business

zyzygy said:
We did ask for evidence and not your ill-informed opinion. Apes and Mankind have a common ancestor, there were no humans around to mate with apes. Read up on evolution.
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I am aware of the speculations. I am also aware of the lack of observable empirical scientific evidence to back up those speculations.

Dawkins22.webp
 
Re: The family business

marke said:
Every evolutionist claim in the Scopes Monkey trial was later debunked by real scientific evidence, from the fictitious 180 vestigial organs nonsense to the criminal Piltdown Man hoax.
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Yah, like AIG's Ken Ham - the Aussie who used to work for ICR, our old pals from H. Morris in CA. Ham had some kind of falling out, & he wound up building the Ark Encounter (et al.) in KY - & apparently fleeced everyone who supported him & his docked windmill (see Creationist Ken Ham blames atheists and ‘fake news’ for failing Ark Encounter theme park – Raw Story - or any one of various accounts of the Ark & Ham). & so it goes ...
 
zyzygy said:
Quantum Mechanics predicts evolutionary biology

Quantum Mechanics predicts evolutionary biology - ScienceDirect.
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To the simple, what that means is that QM proves evolution. To those with clearer minds, what that means is that science speculators can interpret ideas associated with QM in such a way that QM can be made to harmonize with the idea of evolution. That proves nothing except that people with a bent in that direction think a possible connection may be made between the two without contradiction as far as we know right now.
 
Re: The family business

southwest88 said:
Yah, like AIG's Ken Ham - the Aussie who used to work for ICR, our old pals from H. Morris in CA. Ham had some kind of falling out, & he wound up building the Ark Encounter (et al.) in KY - & apparently fleeced everyone who supported him & his docked windmill (see Creationist Ken Ham blames atheists and ‘fake news’ for failing Ark Encounter theme park – Raw Story - or any one of various accounts of the Ark & Ham). & so it goes ...
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You certainly do seem to have sucked up and stored all the negative slander ever thrown at Ken Ham. Have you ever become obsessed with one of my favorite college professors, Dr. Walt Brown, who taught at the Air Force Academy? Graduate of West Point and MIT with multiple degrees. Wrote an excellent book on science issues often debated by creationists.
 
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marke said:
You certainly do seem to have sucked up and stored all the negative slander ever thrown at Ken Ham. Have you ever become obsessed with one of my favorite college professors, Dr. Walt Brown, who taught at the Air Force Academy? Graduate of West Point and MIT with multiple degrees. Wrote an excellent book on science issues often debated by creationists.
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Nah, I've looked @ some of these issues - ICR, Morris, Ham - off & on years ago. So no, I'm not aware of Brown. Did he have anything interesting to say?
 
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