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What do you think "Make America Great Again" means?

enderpotato00 said:
Imo. It means make America an economic powerhouse again, as well as bring back jobs. I also believe it means that we should all be united, not by race, but as Americans. Respect the president and fix our society. Prioritizing politeness, and discussion instead of name-calling. This is only my interpretation.
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Last time I checked, in order to make something great, one has to be great.


That would NOT be Donald Trump.


Nice idea, wrong guy.
 
Cherub786 said:
MAGA is code for “Make America White Again”. Just take a look at the Trump rallies during his election campaign, all white faces in the crowd. Compare that with the crowds at Hillary’s rallies, very racially diverse and representing the true, youthful face of America which is increasingly brown.
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That's a damn lie.
 
OscarLevant said:
Last time I checked, in order to make something great, one has to be great.
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That's a new one on me. Wherever did you hear that? You've never heard of ordinary--or even wretched--people who did great things?
 
Just another flimflam.

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Sorry, dp.
 
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JustHanging said:
Not according to the research. This links to two prestigious peer reviewed journals. Harvard journal says the same. They all say the same, because it's the truth.

Research Finds That Racism, Sexism, and Status Fears Drove Trump Voters

Of course you could refute these articles in their peer reviewed journals. Just show your arguments and evidence.
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That's a nice (but failed attempt) at a strawman, but the quote I referred to was saying that only white people attend Trump rallies, do they all look white? Strike one.iu.webpth.webp
 
Slingshot Bob said:
That's a nice (but failed attempt) at a strawman, but the quote I referred to was saying that only white people attend Trump rallies, do they all look white? Strike one.View attachment 67240761View attachment 67240762
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Dang, you sincerely believe that you've just made an argument to refute an article in the peer reviewed Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences? SMH.

Trump must really love you.
 
JustHanging said:
Dang, you sincerely believe that you've just made an argument to refute an article in the peer reviewed Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences? SMH.
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Your strawman failed the first time, why do it again? Know what they call doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome? Care to prove trump rallies are ONLY attended by whites?
 
marke said:
Democrat socialists have no respect for patriotic Americans or God fearing American capitalists.
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LOL, who would be fearful of an imaginary friend?
 
Cherub786 said:
MAGA is code for “Make America White Again”. Just take a look at the Trump rallies during his election campaign, all white faces in the crowd. Compare that with the crowds at Hillary’s rallies, very racially diverse and representing the true, youthful face of America which is increasingly brown.
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Slingshot Bob said:
That's a damn lie.
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JustHanging said:
Not according to the research. This links to two prestigious peer reviewed journals. Harvard journal says the same. They all say the same, because it's the truth.

Research Finds That Racism, Sexism, and Status Fears Drove Trump Voters

Of course you could refute these articles in their peer reviewed journals. Just show your arguments and evidence.
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Slingshot Bob said:
That's a nice (but failed attempt) at a strawman, but the quote I referred to was saying that only white people attend Trump rallies, do they all look white? Strike one.View attachment 67240761View attachment 67240762
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JustHanging said:
Dang, you sincerely believe that you've just made an argument to refute an article in the peer reviewed Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences? SMH.

Trump must really love you.
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Slingshot Bob said:
Your strawman failed the first time, why do it again? Know what they call doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome? Care to prove trump rallies are ONLY attended by whites?
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JustHanging said:
Nope, part of the quote you replied to: MAGA is code for “Make America White Again”

The research says that's true:

Research Finds That Racism, Sexism, and Status Fears Drove Trump Voters
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Prove the bolded, since you had to get in the middle with your straw man.
 
marke said:
Democrat socialists have no respect for patriotic Americans
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You're correct, I have no respect for this:

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Sound 100% accurate? It should because it is.
 
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Slingshot Bob said:
Prove the bolded, since you had to get in the middle with your straw man.
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Here's the quote:

MAGA is code for “Make America White Again”.

Here's the research to support it:

Research Finds That Racism, Sexism, and Status Fears Drove Trump Voters

Honestly, it's not that difficult if you put your mind to it. I replied to part of what you quoted and called a lie, and I used a study in a peer reviewed journal to support my argument.

That is not a strawman argument, please do some research before replying. Thanks in advance.
 
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JustHanging said:
Not according to the research. This links to two prestigious peer reviewed journals. Harvard journal says the same. They all say the same, because it's the truth.

Research Finds That Racism, Sexism, and Status Fears Drove Trump Voters

Of course you could refute these articles in their peer reviewed journals. Just show your arguments and evidence.
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Most importantly, they indicated their views on three key issues: trade, immigration, and the United States' relationship with China. They were specifically asked whether the U.S. should have more or fewer trade agreements with other nations; whether a pathway to U.S. citizenship should be offered to undocumented immigrants; and whether China's emergence as a rival superpower is more an opportunity or a threat.

Mutz found that, in 2012, "the two parties candidate positions on trade, as well as the average American's position, were all but indistinguishable." However, by 2016, a large gap opened between the pro-trade views of Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and the largely anti-trade views of Trump, whose attitude was much closer to that of the average American.

Similarly, views on immigration and China became polarized, with Trump asserting positions that were far closer to those of the average American. Voters noticed this, and many voted accordingly.

"Voters who shifted (parties) to become Trump voters between the two elections seem to have done so because of increasing distance between their own views and that of the Democratic candidate on trade, immigration, and China," Mutz reports
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Lol, IOW if you disagree with Democrats on trade, immigration, and China then you are racist. The funniest part is that the writer debunked himself stating Trump asserted positions far closer to the average American and the people voted accordingly. Trump is an evil genius, he pushed positions that the average American held and they ACTUALLY voted for him! The horror! How dare a politician actually hold the same positions of the average American.

As far as peer reviewed journals go, they aren't exactly as trusted as they used to be, especially those from the humanities. It wasn't long ago that just to prove how ridiculous they have become someone trolled one with a paper on "Penises cause climate change" and it actually got published.

Edit: Something else to ponder, He says the positions between Republicans and Democrats on these issues were indistinguishable previously, and that voters who switched parties did so because of the growing distance between their views and that of the Democratic candidate. Rather than trying to blame and shame the voter for disagreeing with you, try pushing for policies they agree with.....
 
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nota bene said:
That's a new one on me. Wherever did you hear that? You've never heard of ordinary--or even wretched--people who did great things?
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Ordinary people can be great

But greatness is nowhere to be found in Donald Trump
 
Which of the following two options would better suit making America great again. Spending 25,000,000,000 dollars on the Wall, or putting 250,000 American families in 100,000 dollar homes,and giving about 1,250,000 Americans a piece of the American Dream? :2usflag:
 
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JustHanging said:
You're correct, I have no respect for this:

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Sound 100% accurate? It should because it is.
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Leftists like Obama disregard, disrespect and dismiss laws they think should be illegal. Christians resist laws that dishonor, disrespect and disregard God. Atheistic humanistic societies have problems honoring God with their secular laws.

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enderpotato00 said:
Imo. It means make America an economic powerhouse again, as well as bring back jobs. I also believe it means that we should all be united, not by race, but as Americans. Respect the president and fix our society. Prioritizing politeness, and discussion instead of name-calling. This is only my interpretation.
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In what way is America not an economic powerhouse? It has the world's largest economy.
Trump is very fond of name calling and is the least polite President in US history. He even insults the parents of fallen US soldiers and US POWs like McCain. Not to mention the casual sexism.
 
marke said:
Christians resist laws that dishonor, disrespect and disregard God.
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No they don't, Christians interpret the bible so it confirms what they believe, and thus god is always on "their side." This allows Christians to commit the most disgusting and terrible acts, and be forgiven simply by asking their invisible friend. For example, the bible has been used to justify slavery and murder.

Atheistic humanistic societies have problems honoring God with their secular laws.
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Why would anyone honour the Christian God? He is arguably the most horrible fictional character I've ever come across, anyone who has read the bible can tell you about God murdering, human sacrifices, genocide, jealous, fumblebutt, and on and on. If I'm going to honour a God, they're not going to have those qualities thank you very much.
 
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Slingshot Bob said:
Prove the bolded, since you had to get in the middle with your straw man.
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Bob, as I've explained numerous times, I am only addressing the following part of the quote: MAGA is code for “Make America White Again”.

Here's the research to support it:

Research Finds That Racism, Sexism, and Status Fears Drove Trump Voters

I replied to part of what you quoted and called a lie, and I used a study in a peer reviewed journal to support my argument.

That is not a strawman argument. BTW, if you like I can include reputable links to all sort of Trump's racist behaviour, where he is trying to encourage racists to join his base.
 
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JustHanging said:
No they don't, Christians interpret the bible so it confirms what they believe, and thus god is always on "their side." This allows Christians to commit the most disgusting and terrible acts, and be forgiven simply by asking their invisible friend. For example, the bible has been used to justify slavery and murder.



Why would anyone honour the Christian God? He is arguably the most horrible fictional character I've ever come across, anyone who has read the bible can tell you about God murdering, human sacrifices, genocide, jealous, fumblebutt, and on and on. If I'm going to honour a God, they're not going to have those qualities thank you very much.
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What idiocy. This reminds me of what one of the worst offensive barbarian savages on the planet said about God:

The God of the Old testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving, control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

Poor Lil- Richard's delusions about God will certainly see him cast into hell for disrespect if he does not repent of that blasphemy before God takes him away in wrath.
 
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