What are some of the reasons people will vote for Romney/Ryan?

[Fisher]

few doctors are available 24/7. This is one reason why they team up. And it may be the patient needed measures that could only be done at another hospital. there is too much we likely don't know here. But if a qualified doctor was there, and he could help, and risked the patients life (a law suit waiting to happen), it would be on him any way you look at it.

Understand, there is few to no one calling for more staff, more payment, more spending. The conservative idea is largely that if we take away payers, it will fix itself. That would in fact be more drastic. Increasing the pool of those who can pay, the insured, helps hospitals. It doesn't hurt them.

What I do know is there are lots of cardiologists in town but they will not work at the hospital for basically nothing so they do not get awarded privileges at the for-profit hospital. They do, however, have privileges at community hospitals 45-60 minutes east or west, but that is not an option when you are having a MI. This particular hospital has closed wings and whole floors because few go there for anything other than the ER or 1 day minor surgery. The state has been all over them for their issues and insurance companies have dropped them, but they plug right along being crappy.

 

[Boo Radley]

What I do know is there are lots of cardiologists in town but they will not work at the hospital for basically nothing so they do not get awarded privileges at the for-profit hospital. They do, however, have privileges at community hospitals 45-60 minutes east or west, but that is not an option when you are having a MI. This particular hospital has closed wings and whole floors because few go there for anything other than the ER or 1 day minor surgery. The state has been all over them for their issues and insurance companies have dropped them, but they plug right along being crappy.

So, it is a poor hospital? That happens. Even in the market place. And if the state has been on them, image what they might look like without being pressured?

The thing is, we're talking about something that MAY lead to less pay for doctors across the board, but only from some patients. Not one poorly run place.

 

[Dooble]

What's the appeal?

I'm just asking.

I'm convinced that Romney & Ryan won't continue to weaken America to the point where Canada & Europe look so good, that we end up wishing that we could have our s*** together like they do.

 

[Bobcat]

Because he is not obama. I would vote for a head of cabbage before voting for obama. Why would anyone want four more years like the last four? Its insanity that 40+% of the people still support this total failure.

 

[Muddy Creek]

I'm convinced that Romney & Ryan won't continue to weaken America to the point where Canada & Europe look so good, that we end up wishing that we could have our s*** together like they do.

Because? What are some of his policies that will make America strong? What do you think it will take to make America strong?

 

[Muddy Creek]

Because he is not obama. I would vote for a head of cabbage before voting for obama. Why would anyone want four more years like the last four? Its insanity that 40+% of the people still support this total failure.

Republicans blocked most legislation to create jobs. Do you want 4 more years like that?

 

[Dickieboy]

Entirely different economic times. Back then, the rich had been paying 90% in taxes and the wages were so good that 25% of take home pay was used for things ABOVE the necessities, including groceries. Jobs were abundant because there were anti-trust laws in place and that kept competition in the market place.

Democrats didn't lose their way They still focus on the middle class and poor. The republicans since Nixon have created huge income gap between their haves and the democrats middle class and poor. And that is why we need taxes. The rich haven't been paying their fair share given all the tax subsidies they get with their investments.

I'm sure you understand the difference between marginal and effective tax rate...right? So thusly you know that no one paid the 90% rate...right? Or can you substanitate this 90% EFFECTIVE tax rate?

While you are at it please provide a source for the supports Carter, Clinton and Obama reducing this 'huge income gap between their haves and the democrats middle class and poor' as you claimed 'republicans since Nixon have created'...for reference I see no decline in the income gap over the Democrat years (but there is a nice little increase in Clinton's out years)...


File:IncomeInequality7.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Chickenhawks]

Only two reasons to vote for RR

a. you are a mormon and wish to see the white horse prophecy fulfilled

White Horse Prophecy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(why do you think Willard will say anything to anybody at anytime on anything, he only cares about this, trust me)

b. you are a rabid and vile racist

you can be both a and b, by the way

If any of you rightys were honest you would admit that Obama has governed as a centrist, that Obamacare was invented by the most rightwing think tank in america, and that your only objection to him is his color

 

[Fisher]

So, it is a poor hospital? That happens. Even in the market place. And if the state has been on them, image what they might look like without being pressured?

The thing is, we're talking about something that MAY lead to less pay for doctors across the board, but only from some patients. Not one poorly run place.

Perhaps but it is owned by a corporation that owns multiple hospitals in multiple states so I imagine the issues are not exclusive to our hole in the wall. On the plus side, a very notable health system has started putting doctors and outpatient clinics into the area to facilitate people bypassing this place altogether whenever possible so hopefully they will be able to bankrupt this facility and take it over. They reportedly had looked at buying it out in the past but the price was way too high and they would have had to gut and re-equip the entire facility to boot because of its crappy everything.

 

[Bobcat]

Republicans blocked most legislation to create jobs. Do you want 4 more years like that?

nice talking point, but totally untrue. Which party prevented a budget from being voted on for 4 years? which party rammed obamacare thru in the dead of night on Christmas eve on a completely partisan vote? which party wrote the obamacare bill with no input or discussion from the other party? which party presided over the biggest increase in the national debt in history?

The republicans passed several budget measures that would have created jobs, but Reid would not let them come to a vote in the senate---why? was it because he was afraid they would pass?

 

[Bobcat]

Only two reasons to vote for RR

a. you are a mormon and wish to see the white horse prophecy fulfilled

White Horse Prophecy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(why do you think Willard will say anything to anybody at anytime on anything, he only cares about this, trust me)

b. you are a rabid and vile racist

you can be both a and b, by the way

If any of you rightys were honest you would admit that Obama has governed as a centrist, that Obamacare was invented by the most rightwing think tank in america, and that your only objection to him is his color

If obama gets a second term, how many months into it will he declare that he must return to his muslim roots and his socialist beliefs? That question makes as much sense as your mormon BS.

 

[DA60]

Imo, anyone that votes for either Obama or Romney is a political ignoramus and does not know what America truly needs.

 

[Dooble]

Because? What are some of his policies that will make America strong? What do you think it will take to make America strong?

Loads of stuff, MC, just loads of stuff! Let's start with the Government. I believe that the first step to our recovery is to stop spending so much damn money. Curtail the spending, stop crying about the rich, and let job makers rebuild the Private Sector.

So what about you? What is it that you think will make America strong?

 

[Dooble]

Imo, anyone that votes for either Obama or Romney is a political ignoramus and does not know what America truly needs.

So America just needs a bunch of non-voters? That's a pretty dumb assessment, DA.

 

[Muddy Creek]

Loads of stuff, MC, just loads of stuff! Let's start with the Government. I believe that the first step to our recovery is to stop spending so much damn money. Curtail the spending, stop crying about the rich, and let job makers rebuild the Private Sector.

So what about you? What is it that you think will make America strong?

Building up the middle class with more government good paying jobs with benefits that will spend in the private sector and create jobs due to demand for more "stuff".

Writing tough and hard anti-trust laws to break up the monopolies, open competition in the market place and drive up wages.

Tax the rich at the 90% rate of the upper 1% so they will be forced to create jobs and get their money through producing things here.

Just a few. I realize I was far more specific than you so if you disagree, feel free to get specific.

 

[Mycroft]

Because he is not obama. I would vote for a head of cabbage before voting for obama. Why would anyone want four more years like the last four? Its insanity that 40+% of the people still support this total failure.

I wouldn't go so far as voting for a head of cabbage...unless that head of cabbage had an "R" after it's name.

 

[Dooble]

Building up the middle class with more government good paying jobs with benefits that will spend in the private sector and create jobs due to demand for more "stuff".

No good. "Shovel Ready" was a total bust, which proves Government has no business creating jobs.

Writing tough and hard anti-trust laws to break up the monopolies, open competition in the market place and drive up wages.

No good. Government has no business manipulating the competition. Leave the competing to the competitors. Government needs to defend our rights as consumers and business owners; that's it.

Tax the rich at the 90% rate of the upper 1% so they will be forced to create jobs and get their money through producing things here.

No good. You tax the rich at 90%, and we won't have a Private Sector. Your plan stinks of Marxism.

 

[Mycroft]

Seriously, though, I've stated my reasons for voting for Romney a number of times in various threads but it doesn't hurt to express myself one more time.

I am voting for Romney because he has an "R" after his name. Plain and simple.

(actually, it's not really that simple)

You see, the Republicans failed the people during the time of Bush the younger. The people reacted by giving the Democrats the power of Congress in 2006 and complete control in 2008. In the two years that followed they pissed off the people by shoving Obamacare down our throats. In the meantime, the Republicans convinced the people that they had learned their lesson and that they were determined to dump Obamacare and reduce the size, scope and power of the government. The people kind of believed them and gave them power in the House. Since then the Republicans have shown that they are true to their word. Everything they've done has been an attempt to dump Obamacare and reduce the size, scope and power of the government. Unfortunately, they don't have enough power to do any of that. For that reason, the power must shift more to the Republicans. Ideally, the Senate AND Presidency should be in Republican hands but it will be enormously better with just the Presidency.

Now, it helps that Romney espouses much the same aims as the rest of the Republicans so he's the one to get my vote. For what it's worth, I would have voted for ANY Republican nominee...because they have an "R" after their name.

 

[TurtleDude]

No, that's not the topic.

Give me specific reasons why you are voting for Romney using his plans in specific areas and compare it to Obama's. As a citizen of this nation allowed to vote certainly you take this seriously enough to provide that information

I cannot help it if you are drinking the obama koolaid and don't understand the point. Obama has declared Jihad against those of us who are net tax payers. Romney has not. That alone is enough

 

[TurtleDude]

Well there's a ringing edorsement of Romney. :lamo

When a candidate sucks as bad as Obama-the other guy becomes a good choice no matter what his policies but Romney does not attack the industrious, The people I consider parasites and enemies are supporting Obama.

Nuff Said

 

[TurtleDude]

Only two reasons to vote for RR

a. you are a mormon and wish to see the white horse prophecy fulfilled

White Horse Prophecy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(why do you think Willard will say anything to anybody at anytime on anything, he only cares about this, trust me)

b. you are a rabid and vile racist

you can be both a and b, by the way

If any of you rightys were honest you would admit that Obama has governed as a centrist, that Obamacare was invented by the most rightwing think tank in america, and that your only objection to him is his color

what an idiotic post. Your idiotic comments about racism are silly. I suspect the vast majority of those who see race as the main issue in this election are Obama supporters.

 

[Boo Radley]

Perhaps but it is owned by a corporation that owns multiple hospitals in multiple states so I imagine the issues are not exclusive to our hole in the wall. On the plus side, a very notable health system has started putting doctors and outpatient clinics into the area to facilitate people bypassing this place altogether whenever possible so hopefully they will be able to bankrupt this facility and take it over. They reportedly had looked at buying it out in the past but the price was way too high and they would have had to gut and re-equip the entire facility to boot because of its crappy everything.

Even somethign owned by a corporation is small in comparison.

 

[Bobcat]

Building up the middle class with more government good paying jobs with benefits that will spend in the private sector and create jobs due to demand for more "stuff".

Writing tough and hard anti-trust laws to break up the monopolies, open competition in the market place and drive up wages.

Tax the rich at the 90% rate of the upper 1% so they will be forced to create jobs and get their money through producing things here.

Just a few. I realize I was far more specific than you so if you disagree, feel free to get specific.

"government good paying jobs" thats what you want? Well, let me ask you this, where does the money come from to pay those government workers?

or a more basic question for you Muddy, where does the government get the money it spends?

you also want to tax the rich at 90%, know what? the rich will leave this country and put their money in some country that does not plan to steal it from them.

 

[Chickenhawks]

what an idiotic post. Your idiotic comments about racism are silly. I suspect the vast majority of those who see race as the main issue in this election are Obama supporters.

Well, if you had a clue about anything, you would understand what I am saying, but if you are a tea partier, then I understand your ignorance.

Care to explain to me what Obama has done that bothers you so much?

 

[disneydude]

Didn't read the fictionalized auto-biographies or didn't believe them? Twenty years in a racist church has no meaning for you and describing the racist minister as a mentor went over your head? Saying you associated with some by choice and avoided others based on race isn't meaningful?

You conveniently left out the part about how Romney STILL belongs to a racist church that taught for decades that blacks were a cursed race who's skin was darkened because they were followers of Lucifer and descendents of Cain.