Washington Mourned John McCain. President Trump Played Golf.

[Ikari]

Washington Mourned John McCain. President Trump Played Golf.

Barack Obama delivering a eulogy at the John McCain funeral service in the National Cathedral.



Unworthy. Unwanted. Uninvited.

I mean, golfing is what Trump does best. Should we be surprised he's out there doing it again. He bitched about Obama doing it, said he'd have no time for it as President, but has spent a considerable portion of his time as POTUS golfing and charging the People for all the trips.

 

[jimbo]

Just enough people like you voted for him and tipped the electoral college his way. Most people are good and rational and therefore several million more voted for his opponent.

And those several million lost.

 

[JustHanging]

His daddy pulled the strings. Nice try.

LOL, I did more than "Nice Try", I successfully refuted your point.

So, the first case you attempt to discredit by claiming that Donald Trump, who as the PRESIDENT of the company, had no power. And he couldn't have quit so as not to be part of racist renting policies because....?

What about all the other documented cases? What about leading the racist Birther Movement?

Trump Has A Long And Well-Documented History Of Racist Behavior

 

[OldFatGuy]

Or as adults we can choose. I don't buy into the you can't escape, victimhood mentality. As long as your breathing you can change. The only problem is you have to have the will and for those of us that can get out there and teach, talk, show people another way.

You can't escape who are does not imply victimhood. We are who we are, next rises the issue of making the best of what we are. I will never assume someone like yourself can teach and show a better way. I'll reserve that judgment for an after the fact experience. You've already shown me your approach is from a negative point of view, convincing me you offer little value.

 

[OldFatGuy]

LOL, I did more than "Nice Try", I successfully refuted your point.

So, the first case you attempt to discredit by claiming that Donald Trump, who as the PRESIDENT of the company, had no power. And he couldn't have quit so as not to be part of racist renting policies because....?

In the corporate world, company presidents often wield little power of decision making. The job is one of effectuating decisions made at the board level, paths laid out by the Chairman of the Board. And they frequently fire corporate presidents they are not satisfied with.

Whatever Donald became as a young adult, his personal views, world views, came from his father, chairman of the board, a father he adored and respected. There was no reasons for him to leave or to argue with his father. He was the heir apparent and had nothing to gain rebelling against dad. It wasn't the he was not a bigot, merely for the decisions that led to Justice Dept. investigations of the early 70's, he wasn't responsible. Wait a bit, he becomes responsible for other bigoted decisions.

 

[Middle_Ground]

You can't escape who are does not imply victimhood. We are who we are, next rises the issue of making the best of what we are. I will never assume someone like yourself can teach and show a better way. I'll reserve that judgment for an after the fact experience. You've already shown me your approach is from a negative point of view, convincing me you offer little value.

No worries, I know who I am and know my value. I teach young people they can do better. I teach young women not to be victims of circumstances but a Victor because of circumstances. I teach ownership of life's failures and accomplishments.
Your right you can't teach from a negative place.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Donald was president. It's right in the link.

We really don't know the facts. First of all, the president of a company doesn't always make the decisions. The CEO's normally vote on such things. It was also a different time. Also, a large concern for such a place would be the other tenets.

 

[OldFatGuy]

No worries, I know who I am and know my value. I teach young people they can do better. I teach young women not to be victims of circumstances but a Victor because of circumstances. I teach ownership of life's failures and accomplishments.
Your right you can't teach from a negative place.

The distinction is, you are trying to convince me and others of your value. Your own sense of self worth is secondary at best for the argument.

I've taught martial arts to the women of my family, the youngest girls, and the youngest boys, so they could attempt to prevent victimization. That doesn't make me an expert teacher for preventing victimization, just a concerned father and grandfather following family traditions.

One could easily state we are all inescapable victims of circumstances beyond our immediate control. Water does have weight, but it flows onward, even if I build a dam.

 

[OldFatGuy]

We really don't know the facts. First of all, the president of a company doesn't always make the decisions. The CEO's normally vote on such things. It was also a different time. Also, a large concern for such a place would be the other tenets.

Steve Jobs was fired by the Chairman of the Board of Apple Computer, representing the board members, particularly Mark Markula, the angel investor who initially financed the company. Laws of unintended consequences, best thing that could have happened to Steve, and better yet for Apple (and Disney). Mark left the company much wealthier, but in disgrace at the company.

All variables need to be examined when broad theories of accusations are presented, including the contexts of the times. You couldn't be more on target.

 

[Crystal]

They used the funeral to bash President Trump.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-o...-at-trump-during-john-mccain-funeral-service/

How ****ing cheap can some folks be? :lamo

McCain planned the whole she bang.

 

[Port & Starboard]

LOL, I did more than "Nice Try", I successfully refuted your point.

So, the first case you attempt to discredit by claiming that Donald Trump, who as the PRESIDENT of the company, had no power. And he couldn't have quit so as not to be part of racist renting policies because....?

What about all the other documented cases? What about leading the racist Birther Movement?

Trump Has A Long And Well-Documented History Of Racist Behavior

His dad ruled the company at the time.

If you actually read up on him (Fred Trump) you might have some sort of understanding. He was heard more than once about "niggas" not renting from him.

The birther wasn't racist as you SJW's want to believe...…......it was just idiotic.

 

[Trinnity]

His dad ruled the company at the time.

If you actually read up on him (Fred Trump) you might have some sort of understanding. He was heard more than once about "niggas" not renting from him.

The birther wasn't racist as you SJW's want to believe...…......it was just idiotic.

You lost. Trump will be re-elected. Get your tissues in bulk. boo frickin hoo

 

[JustHanging]

We really don't know the facts. First of all, the president of a company doesn't always make the decisions.

You're the president of the company. That company has blatantly racist rental policies refusing to rent to non-Whites. You quit, at least anyone with morals and principles does, obviously.

The CEO's normally vote on such things. It was also a different time. Also, a large concern for such a place would be the other tenets.

So if you were the president of such a company, you would just think "Oh, I'm the president and we just voted to be a blatantly racist organization. No problem!"?


Honest question here: Conservatives/Republicans used to consider themselves the party/group of personal responsibility. For Trump they make excuses and justifications for the most disgusting horrible behavior, and seemingly never hold him responsible for his actions. Such as being president of this racist company.

Why is that?

 

[Lord of Planar]

Steve Jobs was fired by the Chairman of the Board of Apple Computer, representing the board members, particularly Mark Markula, the angel investor who initially financed the company. Laws of unintended consequences, best thing that could have happened to Steve, and better yet for Apple (and Disney). Mark left the company much wealthier, but in disgrace at the company.

All variables need to be examined when broad theories of accusations are presented, including the contexts of the times. You couldn't be more on target.

I'm not sure I like president Trump, but he has done few things I think is wrong. At least he isn't my worse nightmare, like Hillary would have been.

I find it so silly that people will bash him for anything. They would be accepted better if they picked issues that matter. As it stands, all we see is pettiness from the Bashers.

 

[Lord of Planar]

You're the president of the company. That company has blatantly racist rental policies refusing to rent to non-Whites. You quit, at least anyone with morals and principles does, obviously.

Believe as you wish. I'd like to see you take a time machine back to the 60's and try to convince the acreage democrat of that.

So if you were the president of such a company, you would just think "Oh, I'm the president and we just voted to be a blatantly racist organization. No problem!"?

No, I wouldn't. That doesn't mean the voting members do otherwise.

Honest question here: Conservatives/Republicans used to consider themselves the party/group of personal responsibility. For Trump they make excuses and justifications for the most disgusting horrible behavior, and seemingly never hold him responsible for his actions. Such as being president of this racist company.

Why is that?

Excuses? Not that I've seen. Showing other possibilities than the idea you guys use... Guilty until proven innocent... You guys are a disgrace to the constitutional values of our nation.

 

[OldFatGuy]

I'm not sure I like president Trump, but he has done few things I think is wrong. At least he isn't my worse nightmare, like Hillary would have been.

I find it so silly that people will bash him for anything. They would be accepted better if they picked issues that matter. As it stands, all we see is pettiness from the Bashers.

We're in concurrence. The same people who detested McCain formerly for his conservative views, now find him a darling in his death, now with no regard for his views and ideas, but worship him as hero simply because of his disagreements with Trump. Appallingly hypocritical partisan politics, good for chuckles if nothing else.

 

[JustHanging]

Believe as you wish. I'd like to see you take a time machine back to the 60's and try to convince the acreage democrat of that.

Well yeah, guess I'll believe the court documents. Crazy me eh?

Excuses? Not that I've seen. Showing other possibilities than the idea you guys use... Guilty until proven innocent... You guys are a disgrace to the constitutional values of our nation.

Well, at least you're sounding just like Trump, I guess that's why you defend such a man, you appear to have the same principles and morals. I understand he's a Christian. I'm willing to bet large that you're a Christian too.

Let's try this again and see if you can actually answer the question. My question was: Conservatives/Republicans used to consider themselves the party/group of personal responsibility. For Trump they make excuses and justifications for the most disgusting horrible behavior, and seemingly never hold him responsible for his actions. Such as being president of this racist company.

Why is that?

 

[MrShangles]

For me, John McCain was a true American Hero. The other, a TV reality show host who happened to become president.

Have you ever researched John McCains life or do you just drink the cool aid.
Just do a search on bing, if you’re not a sheep!


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[Perotista]

Have you ever researched John McCains life or do you just drink the cool aid.
Just do a search on bing, if you’re not a sheep!


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I don't have to research his life. I was born right after WWII and know all about John McCain. I don't let my love for one man turn or make me hate another just because one wouldn't kowtow and bow down at the loved one's feet.