Wanting laws that force people to recognize your gender is pure narcissism

[ecofarm]

You're skipping over my entire point.

Is there a law against a caretaker calling her disabled patient stupid every day? Why have a law against one and not the other? They both seem like common courtesy and shouldn't be tolerated by a caregiver. But I would think the fix would be to fire that person, not to send them to jail or whatever.

Intentionally using the wrong pronoun to abuse a patient was not considered a crime. It was not in the books. No matter how many times you tap your heels and wish it, it wasn't going to be in the books without someone putting it there.

This is simple. Laws don't cover all possible scenarios when they're created. What kind of idiotic BS is pretending they do?

"We don't need any new laws, we got everything covered." How stupid.


This abuse was ADDED to the list of criminal abuses. What's your problem with that?

 

[eohrnberger]

I see. You have no clue what you're crying about. That makes sense then. See... the ONLY law that exists or HAS EVER BEEN PROPOSED deals with the abuse of disabled transgender people.

So, basically, all your crying and bitching is over nothing. It's a fantasy you've invented to have something to cry about.

Now that you know, you can free yourself of that idiotic hateful crap, live in reality, and accept the law as just. Then, you can go on with your life without this crazy fantasy fear of transgenders becoming the fourth reich.

Boogeyman dispelled. Or not. Maybe you keep weeping like an idiot over something that has not and will never exist.

'You are "idiotic hateful crap"
"accept the law as just" :lamo

Thanks, but no. I stand by my position that this excessive PC and SJW stupidity should not be encoded into public policy, nor the legal system.

If that upsets you, too bad.

 

[ecofarm]

'You are "idiotic hateful crap"
"accept the law as just" :lamo

Thanks, but no. I stand by my position that this excessive PC and SJW stupidity should not be encoded into public policy, nor the legal system.

If that upsets you, too bad.

So you're against nursing home abuse, just not against disabled transgenders. You think that abuse should be allowed. Got it.

 

[eohrnberger]

So you're against nursing home abuse, just not against disabled transgenders. You think that abuse should be allowed. Got it.

Again, you assign me a position that I've not taken.

It is ridiculous and laughable to equate someone not using 'preferred pronouns' with abuse of any kind or sort. Disrespectful, maybe. Abuse, most certainly not.

 

[ecofarm]

Again, you assign me a position that I've not taken.

It is ridiculous and laughable to equate someone not using 'preferred pronouns' with abuse of any kind or sort. Disrespectful, maybe. Abuse, most certainly not.

The only law that exists or has EVER been proposed is regarding professional caregivers and their treatment of patients.

You're victim-fantasy crying. You're not a victim. The law protects real victims, not people crying over their fantasies. You need to stop living in fear of your own fantasy creation.

We might ask, "why does he create insane fantasies to demonize transgender people".

 

[roughdraft274]

Intentionally using the wrong pronoun to abuse a patient was not considered a crime. It was not in the books. No matter how many times you tap your heels and wish it, it wasn't going to be in the books without someone putting it there.

This is simple. Laws don't cover all possible scenarios when they're created. What kind of idiotic BS is pretending they do?

"We don't need any new laws, we got everything covered." How stupid.


This abuse was ADDED to the list of criminal abuses. What's your problem with that?

Once again youre missing my entire point. Why is the abuse of misidentifying someones gender worse than insulting their intelligence every day?

Misidentifying gender on purpose i think falls closer to the youre being an asshole spectrum as opposed to the abuse spectrum of things.

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[ecofarm]

Once again youre missing my entire point. Why is the abuse of misidentifying someones gender worse than insulting their intelligence every day?

It's not and no one claims it is. I have no idea how or why you invented this strawman.

Misidentifying gender on purpose i think falls closer to the youre being an asshole spectrum as opposed to the abuse spectrum of things.

Are you deaf? We're talking about professional caregivers and the patients that pay for their care. It's abuse. It's documented, undeniable abuse.

It's horrendous animalistic disgusting garbage to oppose such treatment being added to the list of possible offenses.

 

[Fletch]

Off-Topic:
I had rather there be laws requiring people wear demonstrable evidence of their intellectual acuity. Fortunately for Trumpkins, no such laws are likely to appear.

And in your scenario, what sort of badge would you wear?

 

[Fletch]

It's not and no one claims it is. I have no idea how or why you invented this strawman.



Are you deaf? We're talking about professional caregivers and the patients that pay for their care. It's abuse. It's documented, undeniable abuse.

It's horrendous animalistic disgusting garbage to oppose such treatment being added to the list of possible offenses.

If a patient is being abused by a caregiver, report that person to the caregivers employer. There is no need for the state to step in.

 

[ecofarm]

If a patient is being abused by a caregiver, report that person to the caregivers employer. There is no need for the state to step in.

Abuse by a caregiver is a crime, already was. If you have a problem with that, that's a separate issue. This was merely added to the list of abuses. Stop acting like you're some kind of victim because this is now recognized as caregiver abuse.

 

[Fletch]

Abuse by a caregiver is a crime, already was. If you have a problem with that, that's a separate issue. This was merely added to the list of abuses. Stop acting like you're some kind of victim because this is now recognized as caregiver abuse.

How am I acting like a victim? Cant you post something that actually makes some sort of sense once in a while? Its not even worth interacting with you.

 

[ecofarm]

How am I acting like a victim? Cant you post something that actually makes some sort of sense once in a while? Its not even worth interacting with you.

Caregiver abuse is a crime. You don't like that? Too bad.

A caregiver abusing a patient in such a manner is now listed among possible offences.

Why is that a problem for you?

 

[Fletch]

Caregiver abuse is a crime. You don't like that? Too bad.

A caregiver abusing a patient in such a manner is now listed among possible offences.

Why is that a problem for you?

If a caregiver is verbally abusing a patient, report that person to their employer. Thats what I said. Your the one struggling to wrap your brain around that simple construct.

 

[ecofarm]

If a caregiver is verbally abusing a patient, report that person to their employer. Thats what I said. Your the one struggling to wrap your brain around that simple construct.

No, you fail to grasp what happened. Prior to the law, reporting someone for this type of abuse would not result in prosecution (like other caregiver abuse). Why? Because they didn't list every possible abuse in the criminal statues and, as you might guess... can't prosecute someone for a crime not on the books.

So they came up with this genius solution. Add it to the list!

And now crybaby fake-victims can act like something is wrong because of them there transgenders.

 

[marke]

'Woman' and 'man' are not traditional genders - they're sexes. If someone was calling me a woman they'd be factually incorrect because my chromosomes say so. My preferred pronoun is actually "Tom". That's my name. I'm proud of it and I often tell people to call me that as much as possible.

Either way I wouldn't really give a damn. If I don't meet someone's arbitrary, personal standard on what constitutes a man or a "real Tom" then I'm not going to lose sleep, and I'm definitely not going to kill myself over it (that's a separate mental issue all together). Other people are just as entitled to form a personal opinion about me as I am about myself. As long as those opinions don't start skewing social, medical, or legal standards than I'm cool.

End of life fact: Death certificate: Deceased, male. Not female for those who are biologically male. All foolish gender confusion nonsense comes to an end at death.

 

[Fletch]

No, you fail to grasp what happened. Prior to the law, reporting someone for this type of abuse would not result in prosecution (like other caregiver abuse). Why? Because they didn't list every possible abuse in the criminal statues and, as you might guess... can't prosecute someone for a crime not on the books.

So they came up with this genius solution. Add it to the list!

And now crybaby fake-victims can act like something is wrong because of them there transgenders.

Thats just stupid. It was a mistake to even begin a conversation with you. My bad.

 

[Crusader13]

The only law that exists or has EVER been proposed is regarding professional caregivers and their treatment of patients.

That's bullcrap. People are being arrested in Canada and the UK for misgendering trans people and the progressive liberals are all over it. In fact, they're the source of it, especially from all the garbage coming out of liberal universities. They have started to claim that incorrect pronouns are hate speech. They are forcing innocent people who refuse to oblige by their compelled speech to get fired and brand them as Nazis. That sounds pretty close to wanting misgendering laws to be enacted.

I'm also finding it puzzling why you think an impaired senior who no longer has the cognitive ability to take care of themselves should be humoured into the depths of their imagination becoming a reality. In the words of Ben Shapiro, his grandfather used to think the radio was talking to him telling him to do bad things. The nurses didn't indulge his fantasy, they put him on meds and got him help.

 

[eohrnberger]

The only law that exists or has EVER been proposed is regarding professional caregivers and their treatment of patients.

You're victim-fantasy crying. You're not a victim. The law protects real victims, not people crying over their fantasies. You need to stop living in fear of your own fantasy creation.

We might ask, "why does he create insane fantasies to demonize transgender people".

:shrug:

You are still standing on the position that lack of address using preferred pronouns constitutes abuse, which is ludicrous.
It is further ludicrous to legislate the demand the use of preferred pronouns as a requirement of proper care standards.
It is these points which I object to. Not the ones that you keep raising.

I have no objection to codifying what constitutes proper care from professionals, just as long as the idiotic PC and SJW aren't part of them.

 

[ecofarm]

That's bullcrap. People are being arrested in Canada and the UK for misgendering trans people and the progressive liberals are all over it.

Yeah, sure. You don't even live there, do you? You're just pushing anti trans nazi garbage. Next you'll be calling for a Kristallnacht.

Making up BS to scare the children. You should be ashamed.

 

[ecofarm]

:shrug:

You are still standing on the position that lack of address using preferred pronouns constitutes abuse, which is ludicrous

Caregiver abuse. The only law is about caregivers and patients.

What kind of moronic BS is it to pretend abusing disabled transgenders is good? How disgusting.

 

[eohrnberger]

Caregiver abuse. The only law is about caregivers and patients.

What kind of moronic BS is it to pretend abusing disabled transgenders is good? How disgusting.

Again, assigning a position that I've not taken. You know, I'm getting tired of your bull**** here.

The thread is called, after all, Wanting laws that force people to recognize your gender is pure narcissism

And that's exactly what I was posting about. If you can't connect 2 + 2 . . . :shrug:

 

[ecofarm]

Again, assigning a position that I've not taken. You know, I'm getting tired of your bull**** here.

The thread is called, after all, Wanting laws that force people to recognize your gender is pure narcissism

And that's exactly what I was posting about. If you can't connect 2 + 2 . . . :shrug:

You keep pretending a law regarding caregivers and patients refers to the general public. You're pushing disgusting dishonest anti disabled anti transgender garbage. Nice nazi work there.

 

[eohrnberger]

You keep pretending a law regarding caregivers and patients refers to the general public. You're pushing disgusting dishonest anti disabled anti transgender garbage. Nice nazi work there.

Again, you assign me a position that I've not taken, and I'm quite fed up with it.
You continue to do this, not in just this thread but in other threads.
My advice would be to stop doing that.

 

[ecofarm]

Again, you assign me a position that I've not taken, and I'm quite fed up with it.
You continue to do this, not in just this thread but in other threads.
My advice would be to stop doing that.

My assessment of your nazi garbage is correct.

You seek to demonize and marginalize the disabled and the transgender by supporting their abuse in nursing homes.

Case closed.

 

[CLAX1911]

So if someone was speaking to you and referring to you as a woman...it wouldnt bother you? Yes or no? And if yes, why?

That wouldn't really bother me, but even if it did he's not talking about people not being bothered by it talking about not making laws about it.