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[W:973] Put a Fork in American Christianity

Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

veritas1 said:
Christ pretty well summed up how we are supposed to act toward others. Neither you nor I would even know what good or evil was had not God put that in us.
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That is a claim without any evidence. Good and evil was made up by man. So was god. We don't contain good and evil. We act in ways that man has decided to subjectively label good and evil.
 
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veritas1 said:
You can't "point out" anything about that which you fail to comprehend.
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Good thing that I comprehend it. I know what the bible stories contain.
 
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Elvira said:
You keep ignoring the scriptural evidences that he is not...
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As long as you have added words to make Jesus "a" God, you are practicing polytheism no matter what you claim about it. If Jesus is "a" god and God is God, we have two Gods.

So, if you claim that Jesus is not God, I would say that you are not practicing Christianity but some other religion of your own making.
 
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veritas1 said:
Nice try at making the simple convoluted. If you believe in Christ, you'll try to live as He told us to live. Even you should be able to understand that.
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It isn't simple. It is convoluted. It is exactly what you claim. I don't have to believe in anything to see that.
 
Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

veritas1 said:
As long as you have added words to make Jesus "a" God, you are practicing polytheism no matter what you claim about it. If Jesus is "a" god and God is God, we have two Gods.

So, if you claim that Jesus is not God, I would say that you are not practicing Christianity but some other religion of your own making.
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Doesn't matter what you say...what matters is what the scriptures say...I've given plenty about Christ before/during/after his earthly life to prove he is not God...read them in your own Bible and then we'll talk...
 
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ataraxia said:
The Big Bang is based on observations. It is a very sophisticated scientific theory based on numerous observations, like the cosmic microwave background radiation, the Hubble red shift, and many others, and it matches up with several other areas of physics and astronomy as well. It is falsifiable if other observations are ever found which contradict it. There have been no such observations yet.

Have you ever taken astronomy class or read a book about it?
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Yes, and quite interesting that a Catholic priest was the one who postulated the theory. It rather refutes the idea that science and religion have some unbridgeable chasm between them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lemaître
 
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veritas1 said:
They have to add and delete parts of scripture to make it agree with their interpretations. I'm pretty sure the Bible addresses that subject.
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It is called accurate translating from Hebrew and Greek into English...something you evidently know little, if nothing about...
 
Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

veritas1 said:
As long as you have added words to make Jesus "a" God, you are practicing polytheism no matter what you claim about it. If Jesus is "a" god and God is God, we have two Gods.

So, if you claim that Jesus is not God, I would say that you are not practicing Christianity but some other religion of your own making.
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lol...I've covered that, also...sorry you missed it...
 
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Elvira said:
Doesn't matter what you say...what matters is what the scriptures say...I've given plenty about Christ before/during/after his earthly life to prove he is not God...read them in your own Bible and then we'll talk...
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Yes, the bolded part above is true.

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God.

Not "a " God, not like God, but God.

Changing the passage to suit your needs make you part of a pseudo-religion.
 
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Elvira said:
lol...I've covered that, also...sorry you missed it...
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Cover it all you want. You can't refute the logical conclusion that you have TWO Gods. That's inescapable.
 
Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

veritas1 said:
Yes, the bolded part above is true.

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God.

Not "a " God, not like God, but God.

Changing the passage to suit your needs make you part of a pseudo-religion.
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Believing in the trinity makes you a pagan...

Historical Background of the Trinity
 
Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

veritas1 said:
Cover it all you want. You can't escape the logical conclusion that you have TWO Gods. That's inescapable.
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I serve One God Almighty and His name is Jehovah...
 
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Elvira said:
It is called accurate translating from Hebrew and Greek into English...something you evidently know little, if nothing about...
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Right, and you know more than the authors of the King James Bible and all subsequent ones up to 1870. Excuse me if I have to laugh.
 
Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

Elvira said:
Doesn't matter what you say...what matters is what the scriptures say...I've given plenty about Christ before/during/after his earthly life to prove he is not God...read them in your own Bible and then we'll talk...
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You DO realize this is a forum, right? Not a personal message board?
 
Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

Elvira said:
It is called accurate translating from Hebrew and Greek into English...something you evidently know little, if nothing about...
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Yup. Translating between languages is fraught with problems. While the words may translate, idioms do not.
 
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Elvira said:
Believing in the trinity makes you a pagan...

Historical Background of the Trinity
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It doesn't make him a pagan, since his belief IS a worldwide belief. However, it is true that believers of the Trinity (as in all three entities as a single entity) are not Christian. They deny Jesus Christ and his teachings.
 
Re: Put a Fork in American Christianity

veritas1 said:
Right, and you know more than the authors of the King James Bible and all subsequent ones up to 1870. Excuse me if I have to laugh.
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Sorry, dude. It is YOU that is denying John 27:1-26.
 
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Into the Night said:
It doesn't make him a pagan, since his belief IS a worldwide belief. However, it is true that believers of the Trinity (as in all three entities as a single entity) are not Christian. They deny Jesus Christ and his teachings.
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How about reading Numbers 13:25-33 and Numbers 14:1-4 and get back to me when you figure out what the lesson being taught in that account is...;)
 
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Elvira said:
How about reading Numbers 13:25-33 and Numbers 14:1-4 and get back to me when you figure out what the lesson being taught in that account is...;)
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None. It is a record of family names and how their camps were organized. ...your point? Do you have one?
 
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