[W:88]Atheism is a political doctrine

[Noodlegawd]

There is a major error in the popular definition of "atheism," because of various reasons of convenience, compliance, and lack of reliable knowledge classification, in the past.​

To get it straight, you have to go over the three terms that are being compared. You you have to understand what theism and humanism are, and why atheism is not in the same classification category:

• Theism is the ontological doctrine that suggests that a supernatural deity orders/defines reality.
• Humanism is the ontological doctrine that suggests that humans order/define reality.
• Atheism is a political doctrine that opposes theist doctrine as the basis for public policy, because it is absurd to designate an ontology as the antithesis of a designated ontology; which is what you are doing when you suggest that atheism has something to do with determining what exists - (lack of) belief in the existence of a supernatural dimension of reality - gods.

My argument is valid and sound. Your counter-arguments are based on dogma - compromised definitions from bygone eras of sophistication dominated by Christian dictionary editors unwittingly appeasing the Christian world.

Smarten-up - Stay Woke​

Complete nonsense. "Atheism" is a word. It means lack of belief in a god or gods. Full stop. A lot concepts are defined by the lack of something, and to suggest otherwise is absurd dogma.

 

[zyzygy]

Complete nonsense. "Atheism" is a word. It means lack of belief in a god or gods. Full stop. A lot concepts are defined by the lack of something, and to suggest otherwise is absurd dogma.

How dare you speak to a genius in that tone of voice!

 

[Secular Heckler]

There is no such technology.

List of concept- and mind-mapping software - Wikipedia

 

[Secular Heckler]

Blah, blah, blah. I don't believe there's a god, that's as far as my theism goes.

... That's as far as your humanism goes.

It has nothing to do with politics or anyone else's religious beliefs. I don't believe there's a god and that is all I'm interested in. Believe what you wish just don't toss your beliefs onto me.

You get this through that thick skull of yours; in the very near future, the atheist leaders/thinkers are going to confirm the error and corrections that I am delivering, because the subsisting definitions are adversely effecting the constituency's ability to reason.

 

[Secular Heckler]

Why would we need a replacement for any holy book?

It is not a "replacement for any holy book," its the solution to the request - it is a table of contents for technology. It is a replacement for the Dewey Decimal and Library of Congress classification systems.

 

[Secular Heckler]

He does have some odd beliefs. What does not having belief in a god or gods have to do with politics? Nothing.

Wrong. Not believing in gods leads the atheist to reject public regulation based on theist doctrine. It would be absurd for an atheist to support public policy based on the Ten Commandments, or Sharia Law.

He might as well say that not having belief in the existence of leprechauns is political.

Again, you are parroting the work of atheists above you on the intellectual scale proving that you lack the independent critical thinking skills.

If people are constructing policy based on what the leprechauns say, then yes, not believing in leprechauns becomes a political ambition.

 

[Secular Heckler]

Sounds like a worthy undertaking.

Thank you.

Secular Library

Greeting

 

[zyzygy]

Wrong, Not believing in gods leads you to reject public regulation based on theist doctrine. It would be absurd for an atheist to support public policy based on the Ten Commandments, or Sharia Law.


Again, you are parroting the work of atheists above you on the intellectual scale proving that you lack the independent critical thinking skills.

If people are constructing policy based on what the leprechauns say, then yes, not believing in leprechauns becomes a political ambition.

Insults instead of proof. Name the Western country where government policy is based on religion.

 

[Secular Heckler]

When's he going to start? Are you going to help him to write his dictionary? I hope you can both agree on the new meanings of words.

There is disagreement as to the subsisting definitions of words - that is what the overall problem is in modern society - people, and especially politicians, play word games to mislead their audiences.

 

[Secular Heckler]

He does have some odd beliefs. What does not having belief in a god or gods have to do with politics? Nothing. He might as well say that not having belief in the existence of leprechauns is political.

Insults with no proof!

Definitions are doctrine. That is why definition(s) are referred to in arguments. The definitions are believed to be reliable references stabilized by a reliable authority.

Nope.

Where's your proof?

An interesting article showing that atheism is not a political doctrine.

ATHEISM: FACTS AND MYTHS

And what do you have here?... an article referring to the dictionary definition.

Dictionary.com defines “atheism” as:
1. The doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. Disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Atheism | Definition of Atheism at Dictionary.com

You are an imbecile wasting my time.

 

[Secular Heckler]

Insults instead of proof. Name the Western country where government policy is based on religion.

Atheists organizations are commissioned to protect their membership from such intrusions.

Since 1963, American Atheists has protected the absolute separation of religion from government, raised the profile of atheists and atheism in our nation’s public and political discourse, and educated Americans about atheism. Now, more than ever, we need your help.

Check out the claim that they are educating "Americans about atheism!"

Imagine that?!?!?!

What else is there than the unbelief in gods?!?!?!

 

[Secular Heckler]

it's painful to see nonsense threads like this go on and on for 20+ pages with the creator never understanding anything, even after being explained a dozen or more times.

I initiated the discussion and I am going to defend my position, because my argument is valid and correct.

The counter arguments have been based on the dogma of belief in the erroneous definitions to be true.

 

[zyzygy]

There is disagreement as to the subsisting definitions of words - that is what the overall problem is in modern society - people, and especially politicians, play word games to mislead their audiences.

Irony meters explode.

 

[zyzygy]

I initiated the discussion and I am going to defend my position, because my argument is valid and correct.

The counter arguments have been based on the dogma of belief in the erroneous definitions to be true.

In your opinion. I will stick with the accepted definitions of words. You are free to make up your own but don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

 

[zyzygy]

Insults with no proof!


Where's your proof?

And what do you have here?... an article referring to the dictionary definition.


You are an imbecile wasting my time.

Insults are a sure sign that you know you have lost the argument. Are you in the habit of insulting everyone who disagrees with you?

 

[Secular Heckler]

Arguing against a dictionary is like arguing against a calculator. Pretty dumb.

No it is not. Arguing against the dictionary is like arguing against the flawed conventional wisdom - there are errors, because the ideas are not deliberated under the revelations of contemporary sophistication.

 

[Secular Heckler]

It's the Humpty Dumpty approach to language.

You are flaming and baiting me here - I am reporting you to the administration for your continued trolling.

When a member continues to criticize another member and does not answer requests for reason, it is trolling.

If my responses are incoherent and faulty, you would not be inclined to continue to respond with nothing more than personal attacks.

I have tolerated your trolling in this thread long enough.

I have reviewed your participation in other threads, and you do not offer anything that advances the discussions.

Your posts and picture reveal that you are probably a mentally disturbed individual.

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[Secular Heckler]

In your opinion. I will stick with the accepted definitions of words. You are free to make up your own but don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

If you were not "taking me seriously," then you would ignore me rather than pestering me with criticism and no attempts to clarify misunderstanding.

More than likely, you are jealous that I found the problems and deliberated reasoned solutions.

 

[NWO_Spook]

Wrong. Not believing in gods leads the atheist to reject public regulation based on theist doctrine. It would be absurd for an atheist to support public policy based on the Ten Commandments, or Sharia Law.

That is absurd as many of the ten commandments were 'borrowed' from a pre-existing document which contained many common sense regulations for a sedentary society. Theism is irrelevant.

 

[Secular Heckler]

That is absurd as many of the ten commandments were 'borrowed' from a pre-existing document which contained many common sense regulations for a sedentary society. Theism is irrelevant.

You have very nuanced argument - you are splitting hairs merely to make a counterargument.

Chances are you are jealous, as well.

Provide the proof of your argument that the Ten Commandments were borrowed.

 

[zyzygy]

You are flaming and baiting me here - I am reporting you to the administration for your continued trolling.

When a member continues to criticize another member and does not answer requests for reason, it is trolling.

If my responses are incoherent and faulty, you would not be inclined to continue to respond with nothing more than personal attacks.

I have tolerated your trolling in this thread long enough.

I have reviewed your participation in other threads, and you do not offer anything that advances the discussions.

Your posts and picture reveal that you are probably a mentally disturbed individual.

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Enjoy your short time here.

 

[zyzygy]

For those who can understand. My atheism has nothing to do with politics.

 

[Secular Heckler]

Insults are a sure sign that you know you have lost the argument. Are you in the habit of insulting everyone who disagrees with you?

I initiated this discussion - I am obligated to defend my arguments. That means that I have to read all the remarks and respond. Your remarks contain a lot of baiting/flaming. I did not complain to the administration as you turned out to quickly do.

You are playing a trolling game. More than likely, because you are a jealous old man - nearing death with no legacy.

 

[Secular Heckler]

For those who can understand. My atheism has nothing to do with politics.

Go die, you old bitch, die.:lamo:2wave:

 

[zyzygy]

I initiated this discussion - I am obligated to defend my arguments. That means I have to read all the remarks and respond. Your remarks contain a lot of baiting/flaming. I did not complain to the administrates as you turned out to quickly do.

You are playing a trolling game. More than likely, because you are jealous old man - nearing death with no legacy.

In your opinion, which is worthless. If you cannot discuss without insulting then don't bother.