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[W:775]Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

Re: Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

The Democratic Party generally doesn't even resemble what it did just 3 years ago and certainly NOTHING like the liberal Democratic Party. Now? Consistent with my claim that the American Democratic Party now is the International Corporate Fascist Party, now most Democrats want a true police state.

Think of what the FBI claims. That if you are a candidate and get dirt on your opponent, you should give this to the FBI.

Hello J. Edgar Hoover, collecting "dirt" on candidates, officeholders and even Presidents to extort them with - or at least decide who they will covertly promote and covertly oppose (as they did with Trump). Pure KGB political police state stuff.

The traditional ethic was that if you got personal dirt on an opponent - regardless of the source - you threw it away ordering anyone on you campaign who knows not to mention it to anyone - ever. If somehow still asked about it, the candidate who received the dirt on his/her opponent would simply reply "no comment."

Instead, many Democrats WANT the FBI to gather up dirt on candidates - and everyone - about their personal lives.

The FBI, ie "the police," are not supposed to be any part of our political election process, not one iota. There is NO reason for the FBI to gather, seek and ask for "dirt" on candidates and elected officials.
 
Re: Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

The Democratic Party generally doesn't even resemble what it did just 3 years ago and certainly NOTHING like the liberal Democratic Party. Now? Consistent with my claim that the American Democratic Party now is the International Corporate Fascist Party, now most Democrats want a true police state.

Think of what the FBI claims. That if you are a candidate and get dirt on your opponent, you should give this to the FBI.

Hello J. Edgar Hoover, collecting "dirt" on candidates, officeholders and even Presidents to extort them with - or at least decide who they will covertly promote and covertly oppose (as they did with Trump). Pure KGB political police state stuff.

The traditional ethic was that if you got personal dirt on an opponent - regardless of the source - you threw it away ordering anyone on you campaign who knows not to mention it to anyone - ever. If somehow still asked about it, the candidate who received the dirt on his/her opponent would simply reply "no comment."

Instead, many Democrats WANT the FBI to gather up dirt on candidates - and everyone - about their personal lives.

The FBI, ie "the police," are not supposed to be any part of our political election process, not one iota. There is NO reason for the FBI to gather, seek and ask for "dirt" on candidates and elected officials.

It's weird to watch you just go expositorally off when you're frightened and don't know what you're talking about.

Like a stream-of-consciousness admission, screaming to the heavens that this is so confusing you just can't keep up.
 
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He is a vast, moral wasteland.
As long as it’s true, it hypothetically is not my problem if a democrat was doing something dirty overseas that a foreign government has evidence of. If a presidential candidate committed a crime abroad do you seriously think that should be a secret?
 
Re: Trump: ‘I think I’d take’ damaging info on 2020 rival from foreign operatives

Say, how'd you like Elizabeth Warren stating if she becomes president she'll have her DOJ prosecute President Trump?

I guess the Attorney General really is just an employee of the president after all, huh?
 
The Democrat's endless war on the truth.

This is my opinion. If there are true facts that give strong reasons why I should vote against (or possibly for) any candidate, I want to know those facts REGARDLESS of where they came from.

I'm confident that most actual reporters will tell you that most of their information comes from enemies seeking revenge or to hurt an opponent or someone they really don't like - and often this is "stolen" or other wrongly obtained information. The QUESTION is - is the information true?

Maybe who stole it should be prosecuted, maybe not. But that is a different question.

To me - crazy as it sounds - what MOST matters is "the truth," however it came to be revealed. It seems that to many Democrats, that is unthinkably evil. Rather, what matters is WHO provided facts and as long as those facts serves the Democratic Party's agenda. This should be decided by the corporate media outlets of the super rich: such as CNN, MSNBC, the NYT and the LA Times.
 
This is my opinion. If there are true facts that give strong reasons why I should vote against (or possibly for) any candidate, I want to know those facts REGARDLESS of where they came from.
Just so everyone is clear, Joko has no problem with a hostile foreign government plotting and conducting an attack on America and committing crimes against Americans just as long as Joko gets what he wants.

In case anyone actually still wondered if Joko was an American...
 
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As long as it’s true, it hypothetically is not my problem if a democrat was doing something dirty overseas that a foreign government has evidence of. If a presidential candidate committed a crime abroad do you seriously think that should be a secret?

You don't seem to understand that we can't trust Russian intel from Russian agents.

You also don't seem to understand that the FBI being made aware of foreign agents is very important. It really helps with the whole spy game.

So, when a President refuses to alert the FBI and accepts without investigation the word of Russian agents... we have a problem.
 
Comical considering every liberal out there had zero problem with Clinton using a British agent to get dirt from Russia on their political opponent.


I mean if you want us to continue laughing at your side, keeping feigning your horror over something your side is the master of.

Didn't an American company use the British guy?
 
Just so everyone is clear, Joko has no problem with a hostile foreign government plotting and conducting an attack on America and committing crimes against Americans just as long as Joko gets what he wants.

In case anyone actually still wondered if Joko was an American...

You don't have to get hysterical about your hatred of the truth if you don't like what that truth is or how it was revealed.

Calm down. Relax. Pretty much you're getting your way. Not a lot of truth-telling going on these days.
 
Does it matter if the information is from "hostile" foreign intelligence sources?

Does it really matter if it is the British government or Russian government trying to manipulate our elections for their country's benefit? Britain has a WHOLE lot more at stake in the USA and visa versa than Russia economically.

People have NO CLUE how much of the USA is owned by Britain, NATO countries and friendly M.E. countries. Japan and Germany trying to manipulate our elections for their goals would be far more alarming that Russia. Those old Russian nukes are scary, but really, they are irrelevant since they can never used them. We don't do much business with Russia and visa versa. There still is an ocean between us and Russia. Russian can't invade, because we have nukes too. Russia is virtually irrelevant to us economically. Russia is essentially irrelevant to my life.

Instead, the fact is, money makes the world go around. It is countries we are supposedly friendly with that are our economic competitors. The real battling is there, because real world battling now is about battling about money. The election will be about money. Just about everything is about money, isn't it? All the Democratic candidates are talking about money. None are talking about Russia's nuclear warhead missiles.

In real terms, how is Russia relevant to your life in any tangible way that is significant?
 
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So calling him a foreign agent is a lie.

Oh the typical Leftist euphemism game. I will play.

Not a lie. "Foreign Agent" can apply to any none American.

That he was not representing a Govt is why most of the Obama Justice Department are F***ed. That his info was crap is another.

If Justice is good than Bathouse Berry and Michael the transvestite he is married to will also end up in cuffs.
 
Correct!

Not only he was a former foreign agent (not current but when Steele was a foreign agent, he was often cooperating with the American agents and had a good reputation

you forgot to mention that the FBI fired him as a "reliable agent" months before the Trump campaign. Shame on you.
 
Trump Derangement never fails to provide me with a constant example of how much better of a person I am. Thank you all for the ego boost.
 
So dishonest. Wow.

You're really committed to that lie.

Either through ignorance or deceit. Steele didn’t need to be employed by a government to be a foreign agent.

So what specifically is the lie?
 
Oh the typical Leftist euphemism game. I will play.

Not a lie. "Foreign Agent" can apply to any none American.

That he was not representing a Govt is why most of the Obama Justice Department are F***ed. That his info was crap is another.

If Justice is good than Bathouse Berry and Michael the transvestite he is married to will also end up in cuffs.

Foreign agent can also apply to Americans.
 
Either through ignorance or deceit. Steele didn’t need to be employed by a government to be a foreign agent.

So what specifically is the lie?

He admits to calling him a foreign agent meaning "anyone not American"; however, he employs the claim in response to claims of Russian agents (actual agents, Russian intel) in Trump's campaign.

That's why it's a lie. It's a lie of false equivalence.

He's knows it's not the same thing. And he lies to pretend it is.
 
So dishonest. Wow.

You're really committed to that lie.

Yes, The Obama Justice Department was very dishonest on their FISA applications. That is why they are ****ed. Steel worked for Fusion GPS. Guess who else was working for GPS, The Russian Lawyer who met with Trump Jr. They were so desperate to tie Trump to Moscow they had to manufacture it.
 
Sad thing for you, however, is the fact that there's absolutely no credible evidence that the Obama DOJ did anything illegal in obtaning the FISA warrants, nor can you cite any such evidence.

Hey, you know what? Maybe if you just keep posting that that's actually somehow, magically, the case, it might actually come true!

Not many months ago I was predicting how the Mueller BS would end and did end and you were claiming the opposite.

Before this fall that history will repeat itself.
 
Comical considering every liberal out there had zero problem with Clinton using a British agent to get dirt from Russia on their political opponent.


I mean if you want us to continue laughing at your side, keeping feigning your horror over something your side is the master of.

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He admits to calling him a foreign agent meaning "anyone not American"; however, he employs the claim in response to claims of Russian agents (actual agents, Russian intel) in Trump's campaign.

That's why it's a lie. It's a lie of false equivalence.

He's knows it's not the same thing. And he lies to pretend it is.

So what you are saying is that while Steele had been a British intelligent agent, when he left he became just a nutcase wacko free lance British detective of a British one-man detective agency gathering information from Russian Intel - that Hilary hoped would help her? That he was who Hilary Clinton, the FBI and the DOJ of Obama relied upon. And that all is ok with you.

On the other hand, you say Trump is evil because Russian Intel decided to try to covertly promote Trump for president.

You really don't see how bizarre and oddly hypocritical that is vastly against your side?
 
Really? How pathetic.

As often as you are on here I can see it's an important part of your life. It must be miserable to constantly lose. I when you see me active I bet you start to have a facial tic like the Chief Inspector did when he saw Clouseau in those old Pink Panther movies.
 
As often as you are on here I can see it's an important part of your life. It must be miserable to constantly lose. I when you see me active I bet you start to have a facial tic like the Chief Inspector did when he saw Clouseau in those old Pink Panther movies.

"Yes, the Obama Obama Obama".

That's what you did when it was proven beyond all doubt that you're lying when you claim Steele is a foreign agent.

No one can doubt that. I spelled it out.
 
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