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[W:758:802]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

STDs continue rapid rise in U.S., setting new record, CDC says

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Please explain why you think this is.

And do you think it's a result of left or right social policies?

Well, according to your attached articles, the logical conclusion is it is "right social policies"
Another factor driving the skyrocketing numbers of STD cases may be a decline in funding for state and local agencies working on prevention, said Michael Fraser, executive director of the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials.

“We’ve seen a tremendous increase in many areas primarily due to the eroding public health infrastructure,” he said. “The lack of funding at the state and local level to really invest in prevention work is not just about medications, it’s about disease investigators who meet with the individual who is infected and talk about their behavior and do contact tracing to try to prevent the future spread.”

The United States “continues to have the highest STD rates in the industrialized world,” said David Harvey, executive director of the National Coalition of STD Directors.

Along with declines in funding, there are two other factors driving the skyrocketing STD rates, Harvey said. “There is an extreme lack of awareness about STDs and sexual health," he said, "and doctors are not screening and testing for these diseases and patients don’t know they need to ask to be tested."
Hers how that logic works: there is a rise in STDs (operative condition). This article identifies three elements driving that condition:
1) decline in funding for state and local agencies working on prevention,
2) an extreme lack of awareness about STDs and sexual health, and
3) doctors are not screening and testing for these diseases.
Now, which party is pursuing policies that affect all three of these conditions? Cutting public health funding, restricting sex education, and inhibiting doctors from communicating with patients? Well, those are all projects of right wing politicians in the Republican party. (Citations omitted)
Thus, at least a significant proportion of the increase in STDs can be directly attributable to conservative policies.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

That oily snake move is not going to fly. The left is not in control of a goddamn thing down South and you know it.
You are being fundamentally dishonest in your slimy effort to refuse to face facts.

Here's your sign:

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Policy does not equal law:

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The left's "policy" at the individual level, is do what you want when you want be damned consequences.

Doing what you want, when you want, be damned consequences = record high std, suicide, and depression rates.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Well, according to your attached articles, the logical conclusion is it is "right social policies"
Hers how that logic works: there is a rise in STDs (operative condition). This article identifies three elements driving that condition:
1) decline in funding for state and local agencies working on prevention,
2) an extreme lack of awareness about STDs and sexual health, and
3) doctors are not screening and testing for these diseases.
Now, which party is pursuing policies that affect all three of these conditions? Cutting public health funding, restricting sex education, and inhibiting doctors from communicating with patients? Well, those are all projects of right wing politicians in the Republican party. (Citations omitted)
Thus, at least a significant proportion of the increase in STDs can be directly attributable to conservative policies.

Or, people could just stop ****ing everybody that says yes.

That's an option too and creates much less of a burden on society then trying to put out all these fires after the fact.

Everything you just said places the blame on something external to the person involved in the act that created the situation.

I guess we just have different ways of going about things.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

BTW, it appears this statement is also contradicted by the attached article:
And were definitely not talking about the action of procreation, these people are not trying to procreate.
To wit: “More recently, there have been increases among heterosexual men and women, including among pregnant women, which means we’re starting to see these infections in their babies.” I may be reading your articles, even if you don't bother to.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

BTW, it appears this statement is also contradicted by the attached article:To wit: “More recently, there have been increases among heterosexual men and women, including among pregnant women, which means we’re starting to see these infections in their babies.” I may be reading your articles, even if you don't bother to.

Hello,

They were infected before the procreation act.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Or, people could just stop ****ing everybody that says yes.

That's an option too and creates much less of a burden on society then trying to put out all these fires after the fact.

Everything you just said places the blame on something external to the person involved in the act that created the situation.

I guess we just have different ways of going about things.

Yes, I approach issues with logic, and you approach the same questions with preconceived notions and can't be persuaded by facts.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Yes, I approach issues with logic, and you approach the same questions with preconceived notions and can't be persuaded by facts.

Well, your way of thinking will keep things going the way they are, mine would start reeling it back in.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Policy does not equal law:

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The left's "policy" at the individual level, is do what you want when you want be damned consequences.

Doing what you want, when you want, be damned consequences = record high std, suicide, and depression rates.

You're not going to get away with your nonsensical writhing and flailing in an attempt to virtue signal for the right by blaming wrongheaded right wing thinking on the left.
Abstinence only sex education is one of the main factors in the rise of STD's because abstinence only programs either teach that contraception and safe sex are evil, or most often they avoid the subject altogether. The left has NO part in teaching that kind of claptrap whatsoever.

YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

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Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

You're not going to get away with your nonsensical writhing and flailing in an attempt to virtue signal for the right by blaming wrongheaded right wing thinking on the left.
Abstinence only sex education is one of the main factors in the rise of STD's because abstinence only programs either teach that contraception and safe sex are evil, or most often they avoid the subject altogether. The left has NO part in teaching that kind of claptrap whatsoever.

YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

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You have it completely backwards and its probably because you are in or from Los Angeles, i may not be able to help you.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Well, your way of thinking will keep things going the way they are, mine would start reeling it back in.

Hasn't been a single instance of reeling back in a half century. In fact, when RBI and RBII were still babies, denial and obfuscation didn't work then either. And another half century of RBIII style obfuscation and denial will result in things getting progressively more backward.

Your attempts at logic have suffered massive failure.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Hasn't been a single instance of reeling back in a half century. In fact, when RBI and RBII were still babies, denial and obfuscation didn't work then either. And another half century of RBIII style obfuscation and denial will result in things getting progressively more backward.

Your attempts at logic have suffered massive failure.

You're from Los Angeles, i can't expect you to get this.

Thanks for trying.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

You have it completely backwards and its probably because you are in or from Los Angeles, i may not be able to help you.

Show of hands, please?
Do I have it completely backwards?
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

You're from Los Angeles, i can't expect you to get this.

Thanks for trying.

Actually I am not FROM Los Angeles, and your phony arrogance hasn't bought you any more credibility.
You're reduced to impugning the background of a complete stranger, which pretty much reduces your so called "logic" to acting like a petulant nine year-old.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Actually I am not FROM Los Angeles, and your phony arrogance hasn't bought you any more credibility.
You're reduced to impugning the background of a complete stranger, which pretty much reduces your so called "logic" to acting like a petulant nine year-old.

And were done, I've spent enough time with you.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

It seems like on every issue, if you logically play it out, the left runs away. We never discuss logic, and i think the right has logic on their side and the left has ideas on their side. Problem is, logic always wins. I don't know what i'm looking for here, i'm just a little exhausted. It seems whenever people here and in the world are faced with logic, a crash happens.

I swear i am not on the right, but i have moved towards the right recently because of the environment we live in.

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And were done, I've spent enough time with you.

It seems like on every issue, if you logically play it out, RBIII runs away. He never discusses logic, and i think the rest of the world has logic and ideas on their side and RBIII has petulant nine year-old wisecracks on his side.


There, fixed it for ya ;)

I never ran away, not once.
 
Re: Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

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It seems like on every issue, if you logically play it out, RBIII runs away. He never discusses logic, and i think the rest of the world has logic and ideas on their side and RBIII has petulant nine year-old wisecracks on his side.


There, fixed it for ya ;)

I never ran away, not once.

I'm not running away, i'm giving up on you.

Enjoy your life of confusion.

Ill bring clarity to those who want it.
 
Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

I answered your question thoroughly, and you just blew it all off as whataboutisms.

Do you want to re phrase? Because i am trying to answer.

Wrong. You read my two questions and you decided to return a comment that didn't address the two questions. Instead you deflected to Obama. That's clearly 'whataboutisms'.

Why should I have any need to rephrase the two questions I asked, they were quite clear.
 
Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Wrong. You read my two questions and you decided to return a comment that didn't address the two questions. Instead you deflected to Obama. That's clearly 'whataboutisms'.

Why should I have any need to rephrase the two questions I asked, they were quite clear.

I don't think you know the difference between singular and plural. I gave you one whataboutism, not plural.

And there was much more material there for you to work with.

But you blew it all off, and now i ask you politely to re phrase more succinctly so that i can respond and you don't want to.

Brilliant.
 
Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

I don't think you know the difference between singular and plural. I gave you one whataboutism, not plural.

And there was much more material there for you to work with.

But you blew it all off, and now i ask you politely to re phrase more succinctly so that i can respond and you don't want to.

Brilliant.

I refuse to comment any further on your pointless, flat-lined thread. You don't want truth either and you've just proven that to me.
 
Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

I refuse to comment any further on your pointless, flat-lined thread. You don't want truth either and you've just proven that to me.

You, Agent J, and Checkerboard Strangler should all meet up.

The Liberal Trifecta can be the name of your group!

Nice, something good did come from this, I've helped you find your people!
 
Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

You, Agent J, and Checkerboard Strangler should all meet up.

The Liberal Trifecta can be the name of your group!

Nice, something good did come from this, I've helped you find your people!

You SO wanted this thread to mean something.

Sadly it never did.
 
Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

You SO wanted this thread to mean something.

Sadly it never did.

Oh I've learned tons. Sadly doesn't seem like you 4 did.

If you don't understand this, you can join their group and take the debauchery you all love to defend on the road!

STDs, suicide, and depression for all! :2razz:

Lets not look into why, it might cause you to look in the mirror, and no one wants to do that, i understand.

I tried.
 
Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

You, Agent J, and Checkerboard Strangler should all meet up.

The Liberal Trifecta can be the name of your group!

Nice, something good did come from this, I've helped you find your people!

Unlike the cabal of Trumpers, I don't need 'people'. That's the earmark of a true liberal, we're free thinkers and don't need validation of our opinions.
 
Re: [W:758]Does the left understand that logic will always defeat them?

Unlike the cabal of Trumpers, I don't need 'people'. That's the earmark of a true liberal, we're free thinkers and don't need validation of our opinions.

irony.webp

The irony is just too much, so much joy you all bring me because i now know you exist.
 
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The irony is just too much, so much joy you all bring me because i now know you exist.

Good, that means my mission for today, to bring you joy, is completed.
 
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