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[W:57: 1585]Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.

Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

ChrisABrown said:
Someone please tell this idiot that it must produce facts and evidence of the steel framed core structure before any discussion will proceed.
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One photo with the object in question obscured by dust/smoke/debris, that YOU interpret as you wish, along with two statements about a steel and concrete core versus all the documents, blueprints (which match any photo you've provided), photos, books, and eyewitness descriptions of a steel column core (no concrete core), and YOU want people to believe YOUR fantasy story?

Ridiculous.

I have provided drawings and numbers showing your concrete core to be physically impossible. It's also been shown that you keep changing your descriptions of you core to fit any evidence provided against it. There's historical data from your archived website and forum contributions that prove your concrete core is nothing but an continually evolving lie.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

ChrisABrown said:
Since you have no evidence of any core other than the one evidenced here, there is no point in discussion. You are in denial of the verifiable truth.
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I'll go with reality.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

ChrisABrown said:
And the fact of this safety report for FEMA by a structural engineer certified in 12 states identifies a concrete core is independently verified evidence.
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I have an email from Leslie Robertson himself from 2009. I described your concrete core to him and he said your core is nonsense for both towers and that you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

ChrisABrown said:
Someone please tell this idiot that it must produce facts and evidence of the steel framed core structure before any discussion will proceed.

The Twins had a concrete tubular core structure as is seen here at the center of WTC2 after all of the exterior steel has fallen. No, that does not resemble a steel framed structure in ANY way. In fact it is an absolutely unique photo of radical material character characteristics of a building method that uses the best of both steel and concrete.

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And the fact of this safety report for FEMA by a structural engineer certified in 12 states identifies a concrete core is independently verified evidence.

Download the report, see page 5.

http://algoxy.com/psych/images3/domel-www.ncsea.down.pdf
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How was the concrete core built without the people who built the core noticing that they were building a concrete core?
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

ChrisABrown said:
The Twins had a concrete tubular core structure as is seen here at the center of WTC2 after all of the exterior steel has fallen. No, that does not resemble a steel framed structure in ANY way. In fact it is an absolutely unique photo of radical material character characteristics of a building method that uses the best of both steel and concrete.

southcorestands.gif
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So can you explain this picture here, with WTC2 on the left, looking at the core from the opposite direction ?

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https://imgur.com/a/Dt3x2GS

Point to where you think a concrete core is on the pic.....
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

Maccabee; If you're looking for undisputed proof it wasn't as the story has been sold to the world, you'll never see it.

But listen to the world's professional structural engineers, physics experts, demolition experts, crime examiners etc.
and you'll get a good picture of what is reality and what is bs bunk.
The best evidence will be your own eyes and reasonable logic. Watch the actual videos taken that day; listen to the
witnesses statements as well as the reports by the officials and reporters

I find the comments by the firemen telling everyone to get back away from bullding 7 because "they're going to bring it down."
Begs the questions, when did they set the charges of explosives, and how long did it take them, are all buildings pre-set to
"bring down"?
There is just so much more that proves "a rat" was involved in the whole tragic crime.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

sly said:
Maccabee; If you're looking for undisputed proof it wasn't as the story has been sold to the world, you'll never see it.

But listen to the world's professional structural engineers, physics experts, demolition experts, crime examiners etc.
and you'll get a good picture of what is reality and what is bs bunk.
The best evidence will be your own eyes and reasonable logic. Watch the actual videos taken that day; listen to the
witnesses statements as well as the reports by the officials and reporters

I find the comments by the firemen telling everyone to get back away from bullding 7 because "they're going to bring it down."
Begs the questions, when did they set the charges of explosives, and how long did it take them, are all buildings pre-set to
"bring down"?
There is just so much more that proves "a rat" was involved in the whole tragic crime.
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State the proofs please.
 
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"Did you not hear me? We can not give out no information"

"You'll never see it"

zyzygy said:
State the proofs please.
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Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

sly said:
"Did you not hear me? We can not give out no information"

"You'll never see it"
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So there is no "so much".
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

There is, go to youtube and see for yourself. Or are you used to your mommy tying your shoes?

zyzygy said:
So there is no "so much".
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Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

sly said:
There is, go to youtube and see for yourself. Or are you used to your mommy tying your shoes?
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No need for insults, they make you look foolish.This is a discussion site. What are your main problems with what truthers call the official story? That story fits the facts best, in my opinion. My opinion could be changed by evidence. As for YouTube there are many videos that support the official story. Take a look. There are truther videos on YouTube that support, no-planes, missiles, planes, energy beam weapons, cd, LIHOP, MIHOP etc. Which flavor of truther are you?
 
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Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

And answer came there none. No surprise there.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

sly said:
Maccabee; If you're looking for undisputed proof it wasn't as the story has been sold to the world, you'll never see it.

But listen to the world's professional structural engineers, physics experts, demolition experts, crime examiners etc.
and you'll get a good picture of what is reality and what is bs bunk.
The best evidence will be your own eyes and reasonable logic. Watch the actual videos taken that day; listen to the
witnesses statements as well as the reports by the officials and reporters

I find the comments by the firemen telling everyone to get back away from bullding 7 because "they're going to bring it down."
Begs the questions, when did they set the charges of explosives, and how long did it take them, are all buildings pre-set to
"bring down"?
There is just so much more that proves "a rat" was involved in the whole tragic crime.
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Interesting comments. Since you provided direct quotes, please provide a link to the vid or article in which you got the quote from.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

mike2810 said:
Interesting comments. Since you provided direct quotes, please provide a link to the vid or article in which you got the quote from.
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And on that day the Devil will be ice skating to work.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

zyzygy said:
And on that day the Devil will be ice skating to work.
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Be nice. :)

One should give them a chance to provide the source. A lot of fireman and first responders made comments regarding WTC 7. Besides the quote, the contexts in which the quote was pulled from is important.

I personally dislike quotes with no source given. I also dislike quotes pulled out and no context is given. I don't care which side of the issue someone is one.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

mike2810 said:
Be nice. :)

One should give them a chance to provide the source. A lot of fireman and first responders made comments regarding WTC 7. Besides the quote, the contexts in which the quote was pulled from is important.

I personally dislike quotes with no source given. I also dislike quotes pulled out and no context is given. I don't care which side of the issue someone is one.
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My bet is Yoo Toob
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

sly said:
Maccabee; If you're looking for undisputed proof it wasn't as the story has been sold to the world, you'll never see it.

But listen to the world's professional structural engineers, physics experts, demolition experts, crime examiners etc.
and you'll get a good picture of what is reality and what is bs bunk.
The best evidence will be your own eyes and reasonable logic. Watch the actual videos taken that day; listen to the
witnesses statements as well as the reports by the officials and reporters

I find the comments by the firemen telling everyone to get back away from bullding 7 because "they're going to bring it down."
Begs the questions, when did they set the charges of explosives, and how long did it take them, are all buildings pre-set to
"bring down"?
There is just so much more that proves "a rat" was involved in the whole tragic crime.
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We are still waiting for this "proof".
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

sly said:
There is, go to youtube and see for yourself. Or are you used to your mommy tying your shoes?
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He is quite accustomed to have some authority figure tell him how and what to think. Independent, analytical thinking ist verboten.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

Thoreau72 said:
He is quite accustomed to have some authority figure tell him how and what to think. Independent, analytical thinking ist verboten.
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Yes, like Jones, DRGriffen, Wood, and Prager.. Let us not forget the all powerful "YouTube" with unknown authors.

Speaking of authority figures. Interesting how Mark Basile study was never finished. Wonder if it was too complicated to send of the sample to a lab for analysis like he planned after he collected the funds.


You are not the only one who can look at information to know what is not correct. The difference is in the sources used.


(Still waiting for the Alaska WTC7 study to be released. Things have been pretty quite for months).
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

mike2810 said:
Interesting how Mark Basile study was never finished.
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It's been 56 months!!!!

Also, Ziggi Zugam, one of the biggest Basile study supporters, who defended the study and kept saying "it'll be soon", has deleted his Youtube channel (it no longer exists). $5000 of supporter money for the Basile study down the drain.

What a joke.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

gamolon said:
It's been 56 months!!!!

Also, Ziggi Zugam, one of the biggest Basile study supporters, who defended the study and kept saying "it'll be soon", has deleted his Youtube channel (it no longer exists). $5000 of supporter money for the Basile study down the drain.

What a joke.
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But, but,...………. Mark B was an authority figure for many. His reports had to be correct. Never mind the research labs, independent scientists reports that did not concur with is work. They had to beholden to the "evil" government. So they lied.

Yep, I put Mark B work along side Dr. Wood and the energy beam weapon. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

sly said:
Maccabee; If you're looking for undisputed proof it wasn't as the story has been sold to the world, you'll never see it.

But listen to the world's professional structural engineers, physics experts, demolition experts, crime examiners etc.
and you'll get a good picture of what is reality and what is bs bunk.
The best evidence will be your own eyes and reasonable logic. Watch the actual videos taken that day; listen to the
witnesses statements as well as the reports by the officials and reporters
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But I have. When I believed that 9/11 was an inside job, I would use sources like engineers for 9/11 truth as evidence. Frankly, the only reason why I believed that 9/11 was an inside job was I only listened to conspiracy theorists and never once looked for counter arguments.
I find the comments by the firemen telling everyone to get back away from bullding 7 because "they're going to bring it down."
Begs the questions, when did they set the charges of explosives, and how long did it take them, are all buildings pre-set to
"bring down"?
There is just so much more that proves "a rat" was involved in the whole tragic crime.
Click to expand...
Link to firefighter saying that?
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

sly said:
There is, go to youtube and see for yourself. Or are you used to your mommy tying your shoes?
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You're thr one with the claim, it's up to you to provide evidence for it. In fact, that is the entire purpose of the thread. To provide evidence for an inside job.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

Maccabee said:
You're thr one with the claim, it's up to you to provide evidence for it. In fact, that is the entire purpose of the thread. To provide evidence for an inside job.
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There is no evidence of an inside job. If there was then a truther would have presented it.
 
Re: Evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.[W:57]

Maccabee said:
You're thr one with the claim, it's up to you to provide evidence for it. In fact, that is the entire purpose of the thread. To provide evidence for an inside job.
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Or, to provide evidence that the official narrative is true and accurate.

That is what you and the government are unable to do, going on 17 years now. The cover-up is why the heads of the Commission stated they were set up to fail. That is why Coroner Miller was asked by the late-arriving FBI agents if he could be "a team player". That is why Senator Mark Dayton, one of the few good guys in Congress, after comparing the time lines offered by NORAD to the Commission, noted in public that NORAD lied.

The official narrative which you have converted to St. Paul, fails at every turn.
 
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