[W:53] Twitter, Facebook remove Trump post

[GhostlyJoe]

Iirc, the conservative market segment determined reality had a liberal bias about 20 years ago.


lol


I remember when science and facts were a conservative thing.

Which part of my post is not factual? Which parts of the data I posted are unscientific?

 

[Mr Person]

Liberals are so full of crap. lol!

Why on Earth do you think that claiming to be on the left somehow bootstraps broadsides against the left into a semblance of credibility?



I'm supposed to look at this . . .



. . . and think "well, I do say I'm on the left. And he says people on the left suck. So I need to look into my heart and consider all the ways in which I suck"?

Please.

 

[GhostlyJoe]

No, by working in science. I do sometimes torture Tweetyborg as a pressure release, though.

If you're a scientist, then you know that you have to revisit your hypothesis when the data refute it.

 

[Casper]

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This is fun!

First graph is outright wrong.

The Second is misleading.

Here is just one State, mine, when you look at Florida and California the numbers are even worse and as we speak the cases are climbing in the Midwest dramatically. You can claim otherwise all you wish but the truth does not matter what you believe, in fact it wants you to ignore it.
Coronavirus in Texas: 459,887 cases and 7,497 deaths | The Texas Tribune

 

[GhostlyJoe]

Why on Earth do you think that claiming to be on the left somehow bootstraps broadsides against the left into a semblance of credibility?



I'm supposed to look at this . . .

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. . . and think "well, I do say I'm on the left. And he says people on the left suck. So I need to look into my heart and consider all the ways in which I suck"?

Please.

I've been posting here for more than a decade. If you want to investigate my lean, then feel free to peruse my posting history. You'll probably learn something.

Until then, please look at this chart. Also, check out the CDC data and the recommendations of leading health experts about opening schools. Then face facts and join me in making sure that social media companies can't hide the truth without pushback.

 

[Casper]

Not only were his comments not false, they were not really misleading either, as the chart I shared fully demonstrates. If you can't drop disproven narratives, then you can't arrive at the truth.

No way you had time to look at the link which proves what I suspected, you ignore all data that does not support you POV.
Waste of time, go get your almost immunity....

 

[Grand Mal]

He's making the case that schools need to be open, because idleness and delays are more harmful to kids than the virus. He's correct about that. The stats back that up. That's why he said "almost immune." The intent of his comment is pretty clear. Taking it down is 100% unjustified!

It's misinformation no matter how you spin it. We all know why he said it, he said it because he wants the schools to open and truth be damned.
You know yourself that thousands of Trumpelievers now say that kids are almost immune. This is how lies get started and spread. This is why thousands of low-functioning rightists still call the covid virus the flu, because Trump called it the flu.
They were absolutely right to take the post down- in fact the fact that we're talking about this, the fact that we know about it, means they should have taken it down sooner.

 

[GhostlyJoe]

First graph is outright wrong.

The Second is misleading.

Here is just one State, mine, when you look at Florida and California the numbers are even worse and as we speak the cases are climbing in the Midwest dramatically. You can claim otherwise all you wish but the truth does not matter what you believe, in fact it wants you to ignore it.
Coronavirus in Texas: 459,887 cases and 7,497 deaths | The Texas Tribune

Those are both directly from the CDC and they are visualizations of the full data set. They are not cherry picked, and they are from authoritative sources. Please point to where the data are wrong.

 

[MaryP]

So they took down a mainstream media interview with a sitting president? WTF?

How is what he said a lie exactly?

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Liberals are so full of crap. lol!

That's a graph of deaths. The graph we need is one of cases. Kids can spread the virus without showing symptoms. If kids didn't catch it, he'd be right. We all know what he meant, though. I think Fb and Twitter were going a bit overboard here. I suppose some uninformed moron though, would start running around saying kids are immune to it.

 

[Mr Person]

I've been posting here for more than a decade. If you want to investigate my lean, then feel free to peruse my posting history. You'll probably learn something.

Until then, please look at this chart. Also, check out the CDC data and the recommendations of leading health experts about opening schools. Then face facts and join me in making sure that social media companies can't hide the truth without pushback.

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Or, I could draw the obvious deduction: That someone who throws lazy partisan broadsides against liberals while claiming to be liberal is lying about their lean in a hamfisted and dishonest attempt to boost those broadsides into credibility, aka, is thus not a trustworthy debate opponent.

 

[Scrabaholic]

How many kids under 20 die in car accidents annually per capita?

Regardless, my point is made. If you have to parse the word "almost" to justify censorship of a sitting U.S. official, then you're on the wrong side of the censorship issue. You seem like a reasonable poster. You don't seem to just ape talking points. I appreciate that about you.

But I think you're missing the real problem here: The censorship of the president's words is far more dangerous than Trump's "misinformation."

Twitter and Facebook are private companies- they can "censor" if they so choose. 45 should not be exempt from following the rules they have.

 

[GhostlyJoe]

It's misinformation no matter how you spin it. We all know why he said it, he said it because he wants the schools to open and truth be damned.
You know yourself that thousands of Trumpelievers now say that kids are almost immune. This is how lies get started and spread. This is why thousands of low-functioning rightists still call the covid virus the flu, because Trump called it the flu.
They were absolutely right to take the post down- in fact the fact that We're talking about this, the fact that we know about it, means they should have taken it down sooner.

Which part of this chart is not true?

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You've been propagandized. Wake up!

 

[GhostlyJoe]

Twitter and Facebook are private companies- they can "censor" if they so choose. 45 should not be exempt from following the rules they have.

Then they should and will lose their federal protections and be drowned in a tsunami of lawsuits.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Which part of my post is not factual? Which parts of the data I posted are unscientific?

I'm just trying to sympathize with your struggles against "liberal" reality.


Have we been able to determine kids are almost immune with enough certainty that we can start risking Americans' lives and limbs?


Or are there just some preliminary studies out at this point?


Is erring on the side of caution conservative?
Or is erring on the side of risk conservative?
What's a conservative choice when protecting families and children is the issue?

Risk? or
Caution?

 

[MaryP]

I don't think you can be "almost immune."

You can be resistant, but "almost immune" doesn't make sense.

Most of those kids going to school will catch the virus from each other, like those 250 kids did in Georgia last week.

Very few of them will die. Maybe 1 out of 10,000 will die. I wouldn't want to be the parent of that child.


So Trump lied. He knew the truth, but he fabricated a lie. It was intentional, to get kids back in school, so as to get the economy going.

250 kids in Georgia caught the virus in school?

 

[GhostlyJoe]

Or, I could draw the obvious deduction: That someone who throws lazy partisan broadsides against liberals while claiming to be liberal is lying about their lean in a hamfisted and dishonest attempt to boost those broadsides into credibility, aka, is thus not a trustworthy debate opponent.

Dude! I researched the question and provided data!

You ignored most of my post to make an inane point. Suck on this chart, liar!

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[PoS]

Or, I could draw the obvious deduction: That someone who throws lazy partisan broadsides against liberals while claiming to be liberal is lying about their lean in a hamfisted and dishonest attempt to boost those broadsides into credibility, aka, is thus not a trustworthy debate opponent.

Youve just described yourself. Congrats. :lol:

 

[Mr Person]

You need to do two things...

1- Read the report you commented on.
2- Get a dictionary and look up "misinformation" and "immune".

After that, look at your lean and decide if you want to say that you're slightly full of crap.

Look up "almost."

As in: "almost immune from this disease."

Your post is "almost" smart.

So if children don't die from the common cold, you would say that they're immune to the common cold?

That'd be news to parents everywhere. Best get it to the presses.




That bit of fresh idiocy doesn't help your credibility. It was bad enough when you pretended to be liberal because it thought it meant you could rag on liberals with more credibility. But to confuse immunity with severity of symptoms and related health outcomes.....whoo-boy...

 

[GhostlyJoe]

I'm just trying to sympathize with your struggles against "liberal" reality.


Have we been able to determine kids are almost immune with enough certainty that we can start risking Americans' lives and limbs?


Or are there just some preliminary studies out at this point?


Is erring on the side of caution conservative?
Or is erring on the side of risk conservative?
What's a conservative choice when protecting families and children is the issue?

Risk? or
Caution?

My kids want to be in school, and I want my kids to be in school. I let my daughter get her driver's license and date and do all kinds of things that come with some low level of risk.

You can't see past your loathing of Trump. Please join is in the real world, where our society staves off the brutality of nature, where things devour each other, where viruses happen, where maintaining our successful structures is the best chance at good outcomes for individuals.

 

[Helix]

If you're a scientist, then you know that you have to revisit your hypothesis when the data refute it.

I am a scientist, and I know that I have to work my ass off in research to overcome human stupidity.

 

[GhostlyJoe]

So if children don't die from the common cold, you would say that they're immune to the common cold?

That'd be news to parents everywhere. Best get it to the presses.




That bit of fresh idiocy doesn't help your credibility. It was bad enough when you pretended to be liberal because it thought it meant you could rag on liberals with more credibility. But to confuse immunity with severity of symptoms and related health outcomes.....whoo-boy...

If you have to parse the words, then you can't justify the censorship.

Can you at least show some data as to how opening schools is dangerous for kids? Can you show the poor health outcomes you reference? If you can, I will listen. And I won't make the argument about your lean. I have no idea why you're doing that, but it's dumb.

 

[Mr Person]

Or, I could draw the obvious deduction: That someone who throws lazy partisan broadsides against liberals while claiming to be liberal is lying about their lean in a hamfisted and dishonest attempt to boost those broadsides into credibility, aka, is thus not a trustworthy debate opponent.

Dude! I researched the question and provided data!

You ignored most of my post to make an inane point. Suck on this chart, liar!

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Of course I ignored it. It's completely moronic, as I soon explained:

So if children don't die from the common cold, you would say that they're immune to the common cold?

That'd be news to parents everywhere. Best get it to the presses.

That bit of fresh idiocy doesn't help your credibility. It was bad enough when you pretended to be liberal because it thought it meant you could rag on liberals with more credibility. But to confuse immunity with severity of symptoms and related health outcomes.....whoo-boy...

I mean, if you don't understand that not dying from a disease does not mean you're immune to it, I simply cannot help you.

If you have to parse the words, then you can't justify the censorship.

Can you at least show some data as to how opening schools is dangerous for kids? Can you show that poor health outcomes? If you can, I will listen. And I won't make the argument about your lean. I have no idea why you're doing that, but it's dumb.

bwwwaahahahaahahah!

Parse words? Parse them?

Words have meanings. Immunity has a meaning too, because it is a word. And absolutely nothing about not dying from a disease indicates immunity to it.





Your bull**** is dismissed.

:2wave:

 

[GhostlyJoe]

I am a scientist, and I know that I have to work my ass off in research to overcome human stupidity.

Looks like you're failing. Aim higher.

 

[GhostlyJoe]

Of course I ignored it. It's completely moronic, as I soon explained:



I mean, if you don't understand that not dying from a disease does not mean you're immune to it, I simply cannot help you.

When did Trump say they're immune to it? Please provide that evidence.

Please provide some evidence. All I see is a poster lashing out with personal attacks because you've utterly humiliated in this thread.

 

[Helix]

Looks like you're failing. Aim higher.

I don't do alt reality.