• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

[W:492] F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Tons of actual points on this thread, you are being deliberately obtuse and offering up trolling posts, that is why you have no credibility.

The question was whether YOU could make an intelligent point, not whether others could. So far the answer seems to be "no."
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Quote them if that's so? It's not even remotely true.

Name the person who claimed to have found evidence of Trump/Russian collusion:

Brennan? No.
Clapper? No.
Comey? No.
Rosenstein? No.
McCabe? No.
Strzok? No.
Ohr? No.
Hillary Clinton? Yes.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

That is not verified by any existing evidence. What we know is that before the election, the Trump administration was pursuing multimillion dollar deals with the Russian government.

Slight correction here. The Trump Organization, the company, not 'Trump administration'. It came to naught in th early parts of the deal anyway, as the deal couldn't be concluded, and well before the 'Trump administration' was in existence.

We know that insiders of the campaign were money laundering. We know that it undeclared foreign agents. This to me is enough to have or intelligence agencies look into it. It has looked into other campaigns for the same, Obama most surely had to get security clearance. So did Hillary as she was and remains a secretary of state. At no point did our agencies find evidence to prosecute.

Wouldn't have Obama and Hillary have already had their security clearance before that point in time?
This would be the same administration and investigative agencies that gave Hillary a pass with the classified documents on her private server?
The ones that claimed a 'lack of intent'? When clearly setting up and exclusively using a private email server demonstrated clear intent?
The ones that broke any number of FBI standards of both process and procedure to allow investigative subjects to attend Hillary's FBI interview?
The ones that have shown clear political bias in favor of Hillary and against Trump?
Those federal agencies?

There are however a lot of internet folks who disagree. Alex Jones fans. I don't care what they have to say until they come up with an investigation whose executives want to prosecute.
I'm no 'Alex Jones' fan. There already is public evidence for the statements that I've made, never mind that the leftist and biased media is loath to do any significant reporting on them.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Name the person who claimed to have found evidence of Trump/Russian collusion:

Brennan? No.
Clapper? No.
Comey? No.
Rosenstein? No.
McCabe? No.
Strzok? No.
Ohr? No.
Hillary Clinton? Yes.

Cuz you're making **** up, cuz You know Trump is a Russian asset. Sucks to be you, will set the GOP back YEARS< maybe be the end of the party, and thebest thing for America.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

The question was whether YOU could make an intelligent point, not whether others could. So far the answer seems to be "no."

There you go again....

No matter what is presented to you, you will continue to play dumb and offer more trolling posts, it is what you do. And you are being called out by lots of people here. You have marginalized yourself, that is why you get no respect.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

As Coney and Brennan have testified, Trump was not under investigation.
Are you suggesting they committed perjury?

Comey and Brennan were gone.You forget that at the time the FBI began to conduct the counterintelligence investigation it was after Comey was fired. He explained to Lester Holt why he fired him. After that 45 met with the Russians, explained that Comey was gone. That he was alone with them was the trigger. That was in May 2017.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

There you go again....

No matter what is presented to you, you will continue to play dumb and offer more trolling posts, it is what you do. And you are being called out by lots of people here. You have marginalized yourself, that is why you get no respect.

Still waiting for that intelligent post. Maybe someone will give you a hand crafting one.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Comey and Brennan were gone.You forget that at the time the FBI began to conduct the counterintelligence investigation it was after Comey was fired. He explained to Lester Holt why he fired him. After that 45 met with the Russians, explained that Comey was gone. That he was alone with them was the trigger. That was in May 2017.

Who opened this investigation? Who authorized it?
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Cuz you're making **** up, cuz You know Trump is a Russian asset. Sucks to be you, will set the GOP back YEARS< maybe be the end of the party, and thebest thing for America.

Try to focus. I gave you specific names. Give me a quote from one of them saying his agency found Trump/Russian collusion. (Hint: I can give you several statements from several of these who said clearly that no evidence of Trump/Russian collusion was found.)
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

"not taking this seriously enough" ? Are you kidding me? Trust me, we are taking the destruction of our country VERY seriously. Who are the ones that are digging deeply for any excuse they can for this son of a bitch traitor? Who are the ones dreaming up conspiracies about a 'deep state' and 'invasions' in order to support this puppet of Russia?

This man is so dirty along with his dirty family of traitors. Even his son in law Kushner who tried very hard to get a 'back channel' with Russians that would be ENCRYPTED and far from the peering eyes and ears of the FBI. Are you all blind and deaf too?

WINTER IS HERE And yes, WE WILL FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH that he is indeed a Russian operative.


Indeed.

FBI and intelligence agencies know that if you're going to go after the king you'd better not trip and fall down doing it.

You rather go in well armed with the evidence, the proof and the troops and you take him away.

We can expect Mueller's report to lead us to the crown and its court of traitors. Clear 'em all out.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Cuz you're making **** up, cuz You know Trump is a Russian asset. Sucks to be you, will set the GOP back YEARS< maybe be the end of the party, and thebest thing for America.

More Collusion Trutherism.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Comey and Brennan were gone.You forget that at the time the FBI began to conduct the counterintelligence investigation it was after Comey was fired. He explained to Lester Holt why he fired him. After that 45 met with the Russians, explained that Comey was gone. That he was alone with them was the trigger. That was in May 2017.

None of this accusation about Trump's alleged wording in conversations with Russians has been verified. In other words, it is hope and hype democrat horsecrap. The stuff leftist media hounds like to quote and attribute to "anonymous sources."
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Who opened this investigation? Who authorized it?

The DOJ directed the FBI.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Still waiting for that intelligent post. Maybe someone will give you a hand crafting one.

There you go again.

Thanks for proving me right.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

None of this accusation about Trum's conversations with Russians has been verified. In other words, it is hope and hype democrat horsecrap.

Or so you think.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

From the OP's NYT article:

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, took over the inquiry into Mr. Trump when he was appointed, days after F.B.I. officials opened it.

However, in April 2018...

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told President Donald Trump last week that he isn’t a target of any part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation or the probe into his longtime lawyer, Michael Cohen, according to several people familiar with the matter.

Rosenstein, who brought up the investigations himself, offered the assurance during a meeting with Trump at the White House last Thursday, a development that helped tamp down the president’s desire to remove Rosenstein or Mueller, the people said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...o-tell-trump-he-s-not-target-in-mueller-probe

And, a bit later in May 2018...

The oversight committee chairman said both Wray and Rosenstein made it clear that Trump has never been the target of the investigation.

"Chris Wray and Rod Rosenstein have at least made it clear to us Donald Trump was never the target of the investigation, he's not the current target of the investigation," Gowdy said.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-wasn...nvestigation-says-republican-oversight-948621

So...we have direct evidence that Rosenstein has lied to the President at least once and that both Rosenstein and Wray lied to Congress. (Or...the NYT is making **** up.)
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

More Collusion Trutherism.

You do know that the term "trutherism" applies to the 9/11 conspiracy theory, and other Alex Jones conspiracy theories.? Don't you? Somehow I doubt you do.
 
Last edited:
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

There you go again.

Thanks for proving me right.

I asked you if you could make an intelligent contribution to this discussion--or any other, frankly--and so far, nothing. The only way you could be 'right' is if you agree with me that it isnt possible for you to do so.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Or so you think.

Of course that is what I think. I also think something else. Your lying leftist crap sources did not give you any specifics either, because it is just hype and crooked hope without any factual substance. Quote Trump in his supposed meeting with the Russians, if you can. Never mind, as everyone should know you cannot because there was no secret meeting with the Russians like democrat conspiracy theory loonies like to claim.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Of course that is what I think. I also think something else. Your lying leftist crap sources did not give you any specifics either, because it is just hype and crooked hope without any factual substance. Quote Trump in his supposed meeting with the Russians, if you can. Never mind, as everyone should know you cannot because there was no secret meeting with the Russians like democrat conspiracy theory loonies like to claim.

Believe what you want. I'm done.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

Read the NYT article. Bye.

Lol. The answer isnt in there. You would know that if you had read it. Now go run away.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

And none of it has anything to do with his role in conspiring with Russia to throw the election.

That Manafort was using his job as chairman for his own purpose is plausible.

Manafort became a part of the Putin penumbra that emanated from Trump the candidate. Flynn was in it as were many others already called to justice. And there remains much more justice to be done.
 
Re: F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

You do know that the term "trutherism" applies to the 9/11 conspiracy theory? Don't you? Somehow I doubt you do.

Boy you are quick arent you lol. There is a new Trutherism out there and a whole new group of Truthers. The Collusion Truthers. Maybe you have seen them and heard them. Maybe you are one. But you now have a name.
 
Back
Top Bottom