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[W:422] So, marriage is destroyed, right?

WCH said:
He gave you the freewill to talk trash about him and his followers. Least until you get judged like the rest of us.


Sleep well.
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He didnt give me crap. I dont believe in this homicidal maniac God. You are free to though.


Just keep it in church
 
vegas giants said:
He didnt give me crap. I dont believe in this homicidal maniac God. You are free to though.


Just keep it in church
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I go to an actual church about once per year so, that not going to work for me. I'm free to preach wherever and whenever I choose.
 
WCH said:
I go to an actual church about once per year so, that not going to work for me. I'm free to preach wherever and whenever I choose.
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I am free to preach too. And I will.

For secular government
 
WCH said:
So, trying to silence the religious because you don't agree with them. That makes you a bigot.


Critically think about that.
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Actually it is your kind who wants to silence homosexuals. In the past your kind used to silence them with violence or legislation. Now your ilk is known for what it really is, gay hating homophobes.
 
Praxas said:
Actually it is your kind who wants to silence homosexuals. In the past your kind used to silence them with violence or legislation. Now your ilk is known for what it really is, gay hating homophobes.
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BooHoo drama queen


sounds like a personal problem.
 
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WCH said:
So, trying to silence the religious because you don't agree with them. That makes you a bigot.


Critically think about that.
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Nobody is persecuting you because they disagree with you.

I'm not part of the government so my opinions cannot violate your rights. I'm merely adding logical thought and facts to the discussion.

Your free speech or religious rights do not allow you to claim that those who disagree with you are trying to silence you because I'm not desiring to have you fined or arrested for your illogical religious beliefs. I also have equal free speech rights and religious rights of my own, despite your opinions.
 
WCH said:
So, trying to silence the religious because you don't agree with them. That makes you a bigot.


Critically think about that.
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Nobody's trying to silence you. But what you can't do, is use your religious beliefs to persecute others that you don't like.
 
Dayton3 said:
Yes but homosexuality (and all sexual immorality) is disgusting and repulsive. Something you cannot honestly say about Christianity.
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There's nothing disgusting or repulsive about homosexuality.
 
WCH said:
"we"? so you're part of that community? Thought you had a wife?
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Yeah, it's so shocking someone who isn't gay supports respect for gay people and opposes workplace discrimination against them! Why would anyone care about a group that they're not a part of? Makes no sense! It's 'us' or 'them' and to hell with 'them'! Amirite?

And you ignored the point. There's no basis for concluding that because I support tolerance, etc. for gay people like you show your 'best friend in the world' but for the LBGT group as a whole that I, or others like me, therefore, support child RAPE.

If my friend became a militant homosexual advocate, trying to jack with my kid's minds, I'd kick him to the curb.

Not sure why you're going on about employment.
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There's a huge difference between in the closet perhaps because you're ashamed of admitting to your own adult kids that your best friend is an "abomination unto god" and gay versus "militant homosexual advocate." I know a few hundred gay people, but no "militant homosexual advocates" whatever that means to you. They are openly gay, however, and go about their business like you and me and the rest of us, but aren't ashamed of being gay and don't hide it, which might be enough to earn them the intolerance your list implied you believes should be taught in schools.

And I mention employment because of the list YOU posted, which seemed to be a signal from you you're opposed to gay people enjoying the employment protections you enjoy as a Christian.
 
TheGoverness said:
Nobody's trying to silence you. But what you can't do, is use your religious beliefs to persecute others that you don't like.
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Keep that nonsense to yourself and out of the lives of others.Lisa


Kind of sounds like that to me.


Never said I didn't like or want to persecute anyone. Only expressing my opinion.
 
WCH said:
BooHoo drama queen


sounds like a personal problem.
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Thank you for proving my comments about your beliefs 100% correct.
 
JasperL said:
Yeah, it's so shocking someone who isn't gay supports respect for gay people and opposes workplace discrimination against them! Why would anyone care about a group that they're not a part of? Makes no sense! It's 'us' or 'them' and to hell with 'them'! Amirite?

And you ignored the point. There's no basis for concluding that because I support tolerance, etc. for gay people like you show your 'best friend in the world' but for the LBGT group as a whole that I, or others like me, therefore, support child RAPE.



There's a huge difference between in the closet perhaps because you're ashamed of admitting to your own adult kids that your best friend is an "abomination unto god" and gay versus "militant homosexual advocate." I know a few hundred gay people, but no "militant homosexual advocates" whatever that means to you. They are openly gay, however, and go about their business like you and me and the rest of us, but aren't ashamed of being gay and don't hide it, which might be enough to earn them the intolerance your list implied you believes should be taught in schools.

And I mention employment because of the list YOU posted, which seemed to be a signal from you you're opposed to gay people enjoying the employment protections you enjoy as a Christian.
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When you jump into the Left side of the political spectrum your support of every sort of illegal, immoral or deviant act or person makes you open for critical analysis. As a matter of fact you torpedo your own efforts by going way over the top in trying to make them out as something more special than the rest of us.

IMO, they are unrepentant sinners. That being said, they have to work for respect in my world.

I will continue to love them as humans as I should.
 
JasperL said:
Yeah, it's so shocking someone who isn't gay supports respect for gay people and opposes workplace discrimination against them! Why would anyone care about a group that they're not a part of? Makes no sense! It's 'us' or 'them' and to hell with 'them'! Amirite?

And you ignored the point. There's no basis for concluding that because I support tolerance, etc. for gay people like you show your 'best friend in the world' but for the LBGT group as a whole that I, or others like me, therefore, support child RAPE.



There's a huge difference between in the closet perhaps because you're ashamed of admitting to your own adult kids that your best friend is an "abomination unto god" and gay versus "militant homosexual advocate." I know a few hundred gay people, but no "militant homosexual advocates" whatever that means to you. They are openly gay, however, and go about their business like you and me and the rest of us, but aren't ashamed of being gay and don't hide it, which might be enough to earn them the intolerance your list implied you believes should be taught in schools.

And I mention employment because of the list YOU posted, which seemed to be a signal from you you're opposed to gay people enjoying the employment protections you enjoy as a Christian.
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"Militant homosexual" is gay people that have the audacity to not hide being gay, and advocating for being treated equally under the law, and the social sphere.

So millitant.
 
Dayton3 said:
everything about it is disgusting and repulsive.
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The same people who complain about homosexuality are usually the same folks who beat off to lesbian porn.
 
WCH said:
When you jump into the Left side of the political spectrum your support of every sort of illegal, immoral or deviant act or person makes you open for critical analysis. As a matter of fact you torpedo your own efforts by going way over the top in trying to make them out as something more special than the rest of us.
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I don't support every sort of illegal, immoral, etc. That's just a shameful lie and that you feel compelled to accuse me of that, versus simply addressing my argument, is instructive in some ways.

And I've made it crystal clear the treatment of LGBT I expect is that we treat them like you, me and everyone else, so as people, who happen to be gay. It's impossible for you to read my comments and conclude my belief is they are "more special than the rest of us." I don't believe that - I believe they are simply human beings who are owed the SAME respect and rights you and I enjoy.

It's hard for me to be clearer than how you treat your gay friend is how all LGBT should be treated, based on who they are as persons, not on who they love. Seems like that kind of thing is what we should teach children. You're doing it with your best friend, you're just hiding that he's gay for some reason from your family, while respecting him as the good person he WAS and IS, and you learning he was gay didn't change that. Why isn't that the correct societal standard?

IMO, they are unrepentant sinners. That being said, they have to work for respect in my world.

I will continue to love them as humans as I should.
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And so-called "Christians" have to work for respect in my world, as does everyone else. That's not saying much. The question is whether we should teach children to respect gays as people, who are gay, or whether we should teach them intolerance. What you quoted from Conservapedia indicated you believe the latter, but you won't comment on that. What you quoted indicated you believe LGBT should or at least could properly face workplace discrimination but you won't address that either. So who knows.
 
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Let's tone it down a tad. Knock off the personal attacks and baiting.
 
TheGoverness said:
"Militant homosexual" is gay people that have the audacity to not hide being gay, and advocating for being treated equally under the law, and the social sphere.

So millitant.
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I think you're correct, and it's interesting that someone openly gay and advocating for their own rights as human beings is seen as a....negative!

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