[W:363]accepting gay as normal

[vegas giants]

Yes in this regard. Just an average guy who has sex with women. as opposed to men

Pity. I am far above average. Oh well

 

[dixon01767]

Sex is a normal human behavior. Sex with men is normal; sex with women is normal. Whether or not their gender is the same as yours is irrelevant.

Nope
Normal is also used to describe individual behaviour that conforms to the most common behaviour in society (known as conformity).

Sex exclusively with the opposite sex is the norm.

 

[dixon01767]

Pity. I am far above average. Oh well

You keep working at convincing yourself of that.

 

[vegas giants]

You keep working at convincing yourself of that.

Okay dokey pokey. Lol

 

[vegas giants]

Nope
Normal is also used to describe individual behaviour that conforms to the most common behaviour in society (known as conformity).

Sex exclusively with the opposite sex is the norm.

As is a 100 IQ. LOL

 

[Irredentist]

Nope
Normal is also used to describe individual behaviour that conforms to the most common behaviour in society (known as conformity).

Sex exclusively with the opposite sex is the norm.

Since when? Historically, men having sex with men was extremely common.

 

[Jason Warfield]

If one isn't gay...why should they care if someone else is? How does that hurt a straight person?

Think of it this way: you can't bar a gay person from the bathroom if they are the same sex as you. So, when you use the public bathroom you will never know...and you will never have known...if the guy next to you is gay or not. Since you can't know...why care?

 

[Perotista]

Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.

Those, mostly on the liberal left are working hard to normalize gay behavior to the detriment of us all. How did Sodom and Gomorrah work out? The left leaning agenda has progressed so far in the media that almost every prime time show on TV includes some type of gay activity. Pandering politicians have passed laws the favor the LGBTQ crowd making them a separate protected segment of society. I have actually seen a commercial recently that had two gay men swapping spit. You can shove this stuff down my throat but I will not accept it as gospel.

I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.

This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?

Your turn, go for it.

I have no problem with gays. I worked with gays in both the Thai and Lao Armies during Vietnam. Good soldiers. Very trainable and good at their job. Just because of their sexual orientation didn't make them less of a soldier or a human being. I don't understand the hang up. The Thais and Lao readily accept them. Perhaps we should learn a lesson from them.

which brings up an Old Barry Goldwater saying, "You don't have to be straight to shoot straight." Barry was a political mentor to me, I still classify myself as a Goldwater conservative with some of Perot thrown in.

People are people, some good, some bad. One's preference in a sexual partner has nothing to do with being a good nor a bad person.

 

[dixon01767]

Since when? Historically, men having sex with men was extremely common.

"MOST COMMON" is the term. Sex between men and women has always been the most common behavior. Fascinating to watch you convince yourself otherwise.

 

[zyzygy]

"MOST COMMON" is the term. Sex between men and women has always been the most common behavior. Fascinating to watch you convince yourself otherwise.

He did not say most common.

 

[dixon01767]

He did not say most common.

Correct. The posted definition he disputes said "most common".

 

[stevecanuck]

Sex is a normal human behavior. Sex with men is normal; sex with women is normal. Whether or not their gender is the same as yours is irrelevant.

No, it's relevant if you're going to use the word 'normal', because it's not. The norm is heterosexuality.

If you had used 'natural', I would agree with you.

 

[CLAX1911]

No, it's relevant if you're going to use the word 'normal', because it's not. The norm is heterosexuality.

If you had used 'natural', I would agree with you.

I agree with this. Sexuality is a variant, most people are not homosexual.

 

[Irredentist]

No, it's relevant if you're going to use the word 'normal', because it's not. The norm is heterosexuality.

If you had used 'natural', I would agree with you.

Homosexual sex in practice or in concept is not fundamentally any different than heterosexual sex. They are not distinct, they are a single behavior, called human sexuality, which is completely normal.

 

[stevecanuck]

Homosexual sex in practice or in concept is not fundamentally any different than heterosexual sex. They are not distinct, they are a single behavior, called human sexuality, which is completely normal.

Sexuality, if stated without respect to hetero vs. homo, is absolutely the norm.

But, if you want to break it down to a comparison between the two, then you are indeed talking about norms, in which case the former conforms to said norm and the latter does not.

 

[Irredentist]

Sexuality, if stated without respect to hetero vs. homo, is absolutely the norm.

But, if you want to break it down to a comparison between the two, then you are indeed talking about norms, in which case the former conforms to said norm and the latter does not.

I see no valid reason to differentiate or to contrast the two. Both have always existed as an aspect of human sexuality, and neither are going away. As far as I'm concerned that makes them normal.

 

[stevecanuck]

I see no valid reason to differentiate or to contrast the two. Both have always existed as an aspect of human sexuality, and neither are going away. As far as I'm concerned that makes them normal.

They are being differentiated. That what this thread is about.

 

[CLAX1911]

Homosexual sex in practice or in concept is not fundamentally any different than heterosexual sex. They are not distinct, they are a single behavior, called human sexuality, which is completely normal.

that's false. Heterosexual sex can result in offspring, homosexual sex never will.

 

[Irredentist]

that's false. Heterosexual sex can result in offspring, homosexual sex never will.

But I am not speaking of what results from sex, I am speaking of the act itself. In terms of the mechanics involved, homosexual sex is not fundamentally different from heterosexual sex.

 

[CLAX1911]

But I am not speaking of what results from sex, I am speaking of the act itself. In terms of the mechanics involved, homosexual sex is not fundamentally different from heterosexual sex.

I'm sorry it's all of the factors surrounding it that make it different or not normal.

I understand your point I agree with it the mechanics are. Different but the mechanics aren't the only component.

 

[dixon01767]

Homosexual sex in practice or in concept is not fundamentally any different than heterosexual sex. .

Well, one perpetuates the human species and the other does not. My relationship with my left hand is human sexuality but I don't consider it no different than heterosexual relationships. And while homosexual behavior is natural, the concept of homosexuality as an inherent trait of an individual is purely a human invention. Animals in nature engage in homosexual behavior but they return to the opposite sex to perpetuate the species.

 

[dixon01767]

I see no valid reason to differentiate or to contrast the two. Both have always existed as an aspect of human sexuality, and neither are going away. As far as I'm concerned that makes them normal.

One is responsible for the perpetuation of the human species the other is not and instead produces, orgasms, higher rates of HIV infection and other STDs and little else. My relationship with my left hand produces the orgasms without the disease. Masturbation and homosexuality are alternate methods to achieve an orgasm.

 

[dixon01767]

No, it's relevant if you're going to use the word 'normal', because it's not. The norm is heterosexuality.

If you had used 'natural', I would agree with you.

Homosexual behavior is natural. Homosexuality as an inherent trait of the individual is purely a human invention. Animals engage in homosexual behavior but return to heterosexuality to perpetuate the species.

 

[Irredentist]

Well, one perpetuates the human species and the other does not. My relationship with my left hand is human sexuality but I don't consider it no different than heterosexual relationships. And while homosexual behavior is natural, the concept of homosexuality as an inherent trait of an individual is purely a human invention. Animals in nature engage in homosexual behavior but they return to the opposite sex to perpetuate the species.

Heterosexual sex does not perpetuate the human species in and of itself. Pregnancy and childbirth perpetuates the human species. Heterosexual sex is just the most common way of achieving that. But it is not the only one.

 

[stevecanuck]

Heterosexual sex does not perpetuate the human species in and of itself. Pregnancy and childbirth perpetuates the human species. Heterosexual sex is just the most common way of achieving that. But it is not the only one.

That's like saying guns don't kill people, it's the bullets.