[W:3596] Arguments Against Same-Sex Marriage

[Quag]

Just the same one for which you have no reply. No one claimed they are "the same things"

When someone says something as nonsensical as french fries are made from platypus milk it is incomprehnsible because it makes no sense
Your "argument" is just as silly as that, it is not an arguemnt at all, It is just platypus milk fries.
Now I will just assume you dotn have an actual arguemnt because 218 pages in you havent actually madf one and I am failrey certain you never will

 

[dixon01767]

When someone says something as nonsensical as french fries are made from platypus milk it is incomprehnsible because it makes no sense
Your "argument" is just as silly as that, it is not an arguemnt at all, It is just platypus milk fries.
Now I will just assume you dotn have an actual arguemnt because 218 pages in you havent actually madf one and I am failrey certain you never will

Dont confuse your inability to comprehend my argument with my argument making no sense.

 

[Quag]

Dont confuse your inability to comprehend my argument with my argument making no sense.

dont confuse the fact that your argumument is non existant nonsense with any failing on the part of others

 

[dixon01767]

dont confuse the fact that your argumument is non existant nonsense with any failing on the part of others

So full of it. You first responded to my argumen by claiming "they are not the same thing". I point out nobody claimed they were the same, so now yo want to pretend the argument doesnt exist.

 

[Quag]

So full of it. You first responded to my argumen by claiming "they are not the same thing". I point out nobody claimed they were the same, so now yo want to pretend the argument doesnt exist.

No you are full of it you have made no cogent arguement.
Your inability to make one is not my problem the fault started with and remains with you.

 

[CLAX1911]

As usual, precisely the opposite of what you have imagined. It is because marriage and procreation are unrelated that makes the exclusion of the closely related unconstitutional.

I know you would insist on that but you haven't argued that.

 

[CLAX1911]

I am an atheist. My objection has nothing to do with religion.

it has everything to do with religion that's the only reason to oppose it.

Im the one advocating for allowing any two consenting adults to marry while you are the one clinging to the old testament prohibitions against the closely related marrying.

There are practical reasons not to let closely related people get married.

 

[Quag]

it has everything to do with religion that's the only reason to oppose it.



There are practical reasons not to let closely related people get married.

Hes all over the map on this first he is claiming SSM shouldnt be allowed then hes claiming it should
I guess the reason he has no actual argument is because he doesnt seem to be able to keep a consistant position

 

[CLAX1911]

Hes all over the map on this first he is claiming SSM shouldnt be allowed then hes claiming it should
I guess the reason he has no actual argument is because he doesnt seem to be able to keep a consistant position

Well this is an argument tactic. You argue for something that nobody wants it's a way to say something that most people want shouldn't be legal.

It relies on a false dichotomy.

 

[Quag]

Well this is an argument tactic. You argue for something that nobody wants it's a way to say something that most people want shouldn't be legal.

It relies on a false dichotomy.

Its a red Herring, but he has placed himself in the psotion of beign for and against SSM

 

[CLAX1911]

Its a red Herring, but he has placed himself in the psotion of beign for and against SSM

Yes the argument about incest is a red herring. But I think he means it to be.

in order for this red herring to work for him rhetorically he depends on a false dichotomy.

Same-sex marriage is equal to incestuous marriage.

That's the only reason I said there's a false dichotomy.

 

[bomberfox]

Matrimony for the heteros. Latin root of the word, Mater. MOTHER. Only a man can make a woman a mother. Although, I dont really like the idea of altering the english language to avoid offending the gays.

Lol that hasnt been the basis for matrimony for a hell of a long time.

 

[dixon01767]

I know you would insist on that but you haven't argued that.

From the very beginning.

 

[dixon01767]

Hes all over the map on this first he is claiming SSM shouldnt be allowed

Why dont you copy and paste my post where I did so to show us you are not full of ****.

 

[dixon01767]

Lol that hasnt been the basis for matrimony for a hell of a long time.

50 states CURRENTLY have laws similiar to-

Sec. 160.204. PRESUMPTION OF PATERNITY. (a) A man is presumed to be the father of a child if:

(1) he is married to the mother of the child and the child is born during the marriage;

 

[bergignon]

Marriage is a religious thing

Homosexual marriage is just another way to soil the definition of marriage and put crap in the head of younger generations

 

[GodlessBrandy]

Anyone should have the right to get married in the traditional sense of polygamy with concubines on the side, in the modern sense of monogamy, different sex, same sex, multi-sex, multi-partners, and if animals ever get the ability to consent, bestiality.

Heck I personally don't care if you marry a tree and live in a tree fort. Have squirrels as bridesmaids. And have sex with Woodpecker holes. Like who really should give a rats ass what you do as long as it's consenting.

 

[bomberfox]

50 states CURRENTLY have laws similiar to-

Sec. 160.204. PRESUMPTION OF PATERNITY. (a) A man is presumed to be the father of a child if:

(1) he is married to the mother of the child and the child is born during the marriage;

Got some evidence? Im pretty sure you are clipping out a lot but you know you can adopt and bearing children is not a requirement for marriage. Gay marriage is legal. No reason to keep worrying about it. Furthermore, the father of the child is usually recognized by birth father with many exceptions. A same sex couple can adopt and be legally recognized as parents.

 

[bomberfox]

Anyone should have the right to get married in the traditional sense of polygamy with concubines on the side, in the modern sense of monogamy, different sex, same sex, multi-sex, multi-partners, and if animals ever get the ability to consent, bestiality.

Heck I personally don't care if you marry a tree and live in a tree fort. Have squirrels as bridesmaids. And have sex with Woodpecker holes. Like who really should give a rats ass what you do as long as it's consenting.

This is not happening. The slippery slope fallacy doesnt work. Dont worry about it so much.

 

[bomberfox]

Marriage is a religious thing

Homosexual marriage is just another way to soil the definition of marriage and put crap in the head of younger generations

Nope. You can have non-religious marriages. Get over it.

 

[GodlessBrandy]

Dont worry about it so much.

I don't worry about anything at all. Especially on an internet forum.

 

[bergignon]

Nope. You can have non-religious marriages. Get over it.

Yes. I know there is. I just think same-sex marriage soils the real definition of marriage, what it is, and what it represents.

 

[bomberfox]

Yes. I know there is. I just think same-sex marriage soils the real definition of marriage, what it is, and what it represents.

It doesnt soil definitions because words and definitions change all the time. Words have uses, not intrinsic and non malleable definitions. Marriage has always changed throughout history.

 

[CLAX1911]

From the very beginning.

I'm your reality perhaps

 

[dixon01767]

Got some evidence?

"presumption of paternity" - Google Search

That was Texas statute. Kansas
23-2208
Colorado
https://casetext.com/statute/colora...act/section-19-4-105-presumption-of-paternity
Arizona
SS 25-814. Presumption of paternity | WomensLaw.org
Alabama
The presumption of paternity (and the rebuttal thereof) | Birmingham Family Lawyer
"Nowadays, the presumption of paternity has been codified into statutory form by all the states."
Montana
https://courts.mt.gov/Forms/paternity

Cant do all 50 for you and I'll stand behind thethebirminghamdivorceattorney statement above until someone wants to present any contradictory evidence. From BC ROMAN LAW
Mater semper certa est ("The mother is always certain")
"pater semper incertus est" ("The father is always uncertain")
"pater est, quem nuptiae demonstrant" ("father is to whom marriage points")....

Same then as it is now. Maternity, Latin root MATER, MOTHER