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[W:344:1201]License to Kill

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Politics does not trump biology in designations by genetic identity. There is no such thing as a "Zef."

It is an acronym, for crying out loud. "Human being" is not a biological designation. It is a social construct and society bestows that status upon live birth.
 
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Well, that's a fun story, but no Quebecois of that era would have ever consider abortion let alone discuss it with a priest.

Just another reason to hate the Church... this damned priest could have saved us from having to hear her God Awful songs?
 
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Politics does not trump biology in designations by genetic identity. There is no such thing as a "Zef."

There is no such thing as a zygote, embryo or fetus? You can't be serious...
 
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There is no such thing as a zygote, embryo or fetus? You can't be serious...

Never mind ZEF. I'm still trying to understand "Politics does not trump biology in designations by genetic identity."

I'm guessing only someone with a Ph.D. from the Wasilla College of Word Salads is smart enough to understand that.
 
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Never mind ZEF. I'm still trying to understand "Politics does not trump biology in designations by genetic identity."

I'm guessing only someone with a Ph.D. from the Wasilla College of Word Salads is smart enough to understand that.

:lol:
 
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It is your silly ass poem because you referenced/posted it.. Who wrote the silly ass poem is of no interest to me.

Jejune huh? Couldn’t come up with a more douchey word choice to better emphasize your false impression of superiority?

The facts (because there is no valid argument otherwise) proving that morals and morality are subjective have been laid before you numerous times already. No reason to continue beating that dead horse, even though you try.
No argument then. Just the catchphrase. Gotcha.
At any rate you did learn a new vocabulary word. It wasn't a total bust.
 
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against abortion? don't have one , but don't tell people of different faiths what to do...
With your imperatives ("don't have" and "don't tell") you do exactly what you tell me not to do -- you tell a person of a different faith what to do. Self-contradiction is a form of hypocrisy. Look to it.
As to your religious faith, God bless you. My argument is philosophical and based on science.
 
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It's a statement of your opinion. There isn't any argument . You're entitled to your opinion and however you want to state it.
A syllogism is an argument.
 
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How is it possible to philosophize thus:

and claim one is staunchly and philosophically pro-choice.
No contradiction there. Not even a tension.
 
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Yours is a catchphrase. Do you have an argument? If not, then all you have is a catchphrase.

That lie will never be true, his statement is fact proven by definitions and reality. Disagree then prove your OP to be true, thanks!
 
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Morality is objective, grounded in biology, and based on the Value of Life.

Facts to support the above claim = ZERO

please let us know when you have ONE, thanks!
 
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It is an acronym, for crying out loud. "Human being" is not a biological designation. It is a social construct and society bestows that status upon live birth.
An acronym that has been reified by political activists. No such thing exists.
Biology tells us that the genetic material for an individual human life is complete at conception.
A "human being" is not a social construct. Don't be silly.
 
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There is no such thing as a zygote, embryo or fetus? You can't be serious...
There is no such thing as a zygote-embryo-fetus. This is a mythical political creature invented by pro-abortion activists. A chimera. It doesn't exist.
 
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There is no such thing as a zygote-embryo-fetus. This is a mythical political creature invented by pro-abortion activists. A chimera. It doesn't exist.
LMAO
Facts disagree with your factually wrong claim.
This is awesome!!
 
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There is no such thing as a zygote-embryo-fetus. This is a mythical political creature invented by pro-abortion activists. A chimera. It doesn't exist.

Of course there is a such thing as a zygote, embryo, or fetus.

Are you going all Rene Descartes on us? They do not think therefor they are not?
 
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There is no such thing as a zygote-embryo-fetus. This is a mythical political creature invented by pro-abortion activists. A chimera. It doesn't exist.

How is the bold different than the "unborn?" The acronym is just a generalization so you dont have to write out all the stages of development.
 
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Of course there is a such thing as a zygote, embryo, or fetus.

Are you going all Rene Descartes on us? They do not think therefor they are not?
You name three things there. A "Zef" is a single hybrid mythical critter invented by pro-abortion activists for political discourse -- it doesn't exist.

And what about this, Madam? I took pains to give you a considered response, and you just ignore it. No acknowledgement whatever. Is that how you do discussion?


The Post That Killed a Catchphrase
What one person calls a threat to life may not be perceived as such by another. Very subjective.
I don't know what work your "very" is supposed to do, but if one person observes a bear lumbering toward her yard and perceives in its approach a cause for alarm and a possible threat to her life, and another person observes a bear lumbering toward his yard but does not perceive in its approach a cause for alarm and a possible threat to his life, then, since they are observing the same objective set of circumstances, their different perceptions must have an explanation. Maybe the man is an animal trainer and the approaching bear belongs to him. Maybe the man is a fool and hasn't sense enough to recognize a dangerous situation. Maybe the man is an animal rights activist and truly believes that wild animals do not pose a threat unless provoked. Maybe the man is a fur trapper and is luring the bear toward a trap. If we all agree that the approach of a bear is cause for alarm and a possible threat to life, then the differing perceptions in our hypothetical must have an explanation.

That explanation, whatever it is, accounts for their different perceptions.

To bring this hypothetical back to our topic: if two people observe the taking of a human life, and one perceives it as immoral while the other does not perceive it as immoral, or perceives it as moral or a-moral, then, since they both observe the same act, there must be an explanation for their different moral perceptions.
 
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You name three things there. A "Zef" is a single hybrid mythical critter invented by pro-abortion activists for political discourse -- it doesn't exist.

Once again facts prove this lie to be false. If you disagree then simply prove otherwise . . you wont, cause you cant :)
 
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Never mind ZEF. I'm still trying to understand "Politics does not trump biology in designations by genetic identity."

I'm guessing only someone with a Ph.D. from the Wasilla College of Word Salads is smart enough to understand that.
I think it's missing a possessive pronoun. But you do understand "Politics does not trump biology," do you not?
"Designations by genetic identity" merely specifies why or wherein biology cannot be gainsaid by politics.
 
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The OP Argument

1. Abortion law since 1973 has allowed for the killing, with impunity, of 50 million human beings.
2. Killing 50 million human beings with impunity constitutes a license to kill.
3. Therefore, abortion law constitutes a license to kill.

That's three opinions about abortion made to look like a syllogism.
 
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That's three opinions about abortion made to look like a syllogism.
No, it's a valid and sound syllogism with one premise about abortion and one about killing, leading to a conclusion.
 
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No, it's a valid and sound syllogism with one premise about abortion and one about killing, leading to a conclusion.

The bolded words are not true. They make the statements into opinions.

1. Abortion law since 1973 has allowed for the killing, with impunity, of 50 million human beings.
2. Killing 50 million human beings with impunity constitutes a license to kill.
3. Therefore, abortion law constitutes a license to kill.


If you make each statement true instead of anti-abortion propaganda you get:

Abortion law since 1973 has permitted the legal termination of 50M pregnancies.
Terminating 50M pregnancies is legal
Therefore abortion law constitutes permission to legally terminate pregnancies.

a tautology not a syllogism
 
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The bolded words are not true. They make the statements into opinions.

1. Abortion law since 1973 has allowed for the killing, with impunity, of 50 million human beings.
2. Killing 50 million human beings with impunity constitutes a license to kill.
3. Therefore, abortion law constitutes a license to kill.


If you make each statement true instead of anti-abortion propaganda you get:

Abortion law since 1973 has permitted the legal termination of 50M pregnancies.
Terminating 50M pregnancies is legal
Therefore abortion law constitutes permission to legally terminate pregnancies.

a tautology not a syllogism
Words, whether bolded by a pro-abortion propagandist or not, are in themselves neither true nor false; nor are phrases. Only statements are true or false.

Now are you trying to tell us that the statement "Abortion law since 1973 has allowed for the killing, with impunity, of 50 million human beings" is false?
Are you trying to tell us that the statement "Killing 50 million human beings with impunity constitutes a license to kill" is false?
Or are you only trying to tell yourself such nonsense?

If the former is the case, then you owe us some kind of refutation in the form of an argument.
 
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