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[W:257] Christian Viewpoint On Homosexuality

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Why do people like you insist on commenting on things when you obviously know nothing about what you are commenting on?

How many times has it been said? How many times must you hear it before you stop repeating the same crap/ The old testament was written and given to a developing people. There were absolutes given. It was brutal and harsh...no doubt. But the birth, life, atonement of and ultimately, crucifixion and resurrection satisfied all blood requirements. The Old Testament is what it is. The New Testament ended the requirement for sacrifice. Christ himself declared it in PLAIN language. Man no longer judges or punishes. CHRIST did not judge. Christ did not condemn. that role is Gods role. Christs offered forgiveness...healing...but with the command...

go forth...and sin no more.

Its so not complicated. And yet...you will ignore this and regurgitate your comments again...and again...and again.

So it's fine to be gay and fine not to kill those who work on the sabbath. You want it both ways.
 
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You are certainly free to believe that to be the case, just as you are free to continue to express your bigotry and prejudice. God bless America.

Yes, Krishna likes America.
 
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So it's fine to be gay and fine not to kill those who work on the sabbath. You want it both ways.
:lamo

And to think...for a second there I thought you might be capable of an actual intelligent conversation.

Buh bye.
 
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So the silly rules in the OT don't count except for the one about gays? How does that work? After all Jesus was probably gay. Unmarried in an age when everyone married.
 
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:lamo

And to think...for a second there I thought you might be capable of an actual intelligent conversation.

Buh bye.

You echo my feelings about you. Blind faith interferes with your thought processes.
 
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Have all the gay Christians been informed that they cannot be Christians and therefore thrown out of the club?
 
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Come now. You are being ridiculous. None of this is complicated and frankly, its not very nuanced.
Taking yourself in your opinions out of the topic it becomes very nuanced.

Because if I reject what you say is a truism you are left having to prove it and you have failed to do so. I can look across the Spectrum of Christianity and see quite a number of variances between different religious sects.

I can see several that defy your claim that homosexuality is seen as a sin.

Now I would assume you would just say that they're wrong because they don't go by your interpretation of the Bible, or the interpretation of the Bible that you were told was the correct one.

So if I'm not a narcissist it is nuanced.


If you are a Christian you believe in God and accept Christ. God has pronounced 'judgement' on homosexuality. If you are a Christian, regardless of the love you feel for others, you, by definition AS A Christian, embrace Gods word.
here's where the Nuance comes in believe it or not there are other people on the planet that think differently than your do. And there is room to say the Bible does not make any condemnations of homosexuality that's what I believe.

You can rant and Rave pound your chest screeching till the end of time that I'm wrong but you cannot prove it.

Judge not...God has already judged. Love the sinner. But the commandment to the sinner remains...go forth...and sin no more.

If people choose the world over the word of God, that is their choice...but they are not choosing Christianity. The scriptures are very clear and very specific.
Actually they're not with regard to homosexuality.

Now if all you're going to do is come back and say "duh yes they are" or quote some Modern English translation that has been edited countless times then I am going to laugh at you.

If you really did study the Bible and the scriptures and the languages and the cultures in which they were written in which I severely doubt because you don't believe it's that nuanced I may not laugh at you.

I don't care what you believe if you say you're Cristian I take you at your word I don't care what you do or who you are because everyone is a sinner and I will not judge you as being non-Christian because you don't agree with me I am more grown-up than that I understand there is nuance in things like religion. And I don't bolster my beliefs as though they are fact I am not that insecure.

But I don't believe the Bible Jesus ever said homosexuality is a sin. You can agree to disagree but you can't make me agree with you on that. If you need to dominates people if that's how you practice your faith you weren't going to get very far with me.
 
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Have all the gay Christians been informed that they cannot be Christians and therefore thrown out of the club?

Well until God comes down here in person and claims as much I'm not going to believe people like vancemack.

I think people that act so bullheaded about their religion and who can be and who isn't part of it do so because deep down inside they don't really have any faith. They have faith in a church or a particular set of cultural viewpoints that they call Christianity because they haven't really deeply questioned their beliefs and why they believe them in all reality that's very hard to do.

You are an atheist correct?

Assuming you are and I feel safe in that assumption it's probably likely you came from a Christian background now you may not have, but many atheists do. And it's something that atheists understand better than this type of Cristian you really don't know what you believe until you've questioned everything.

I think a lot of people if they did that would be atheist because if you base your belief solely on the Bible or what some organization tells you then you probably are going to abandon it because organizations are liars every organization lies that's why they have a Mythos or a culture within them and the Bible being written by man is subject to the flaws and foibles of man.

I have no idea why in this day and age someone would put so much faith into just the Bible when it's easily and readily disproven. I would see if you believe that's God's word then you believe God's word is disproven.
 
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Taking yourself in your opinions out of the topic it becomes very nuanced.

Because if I reject what you say is a truism you are left having to prove it and you have failed to do so. I can look across the Spectrum of Christianity and see quite a number of variances between different religious sects.

I can see several that defy your claim that homosexuality is seen as a sin.

Now I would assume you would just say that they're wrong because they don't go by your interpretation of the Bible, or the interpretation of the Bible that you were told was the correct one.

So if I'm not a narcissist it is nuanced.


here's where the Nuance comes in believe it or not there are other people on the planet that think differently than your do. And there is room to say the Bible does not make any condemnations of homosexuality that's what I believe.

You can rant and Rave pound your chest screeching till the end of time that I'm wrong but you cannot prove it.


Actually they're not with regard to homosexuality.

Now if all you're going to do is come back and say "duh yes they are" or quote some Modern English translation that has been edited countless times then I am going to laugh at you.

If you really did study the Bible and the scriptures and the languages and the cultures in which they were written in which I severely doubt because you don't believe it's that nuanced I may not laugh at you.

I don't care what you believe if you say you're Cristian I take you at your word I don't care what you do or who you are because everyone is a sinner and I will not judge you as being non-Christian because you don't agree with me I am more grown-up than that I understand there is nuance in things like religion. And I don't bolster my beliefs as though they are fact I am not that insecure.

But I don't believe the Bible Jesus ever said homosexuality is a sin. You can agree to disagree but you can't make me agree with you on that. If you need to dominates people if that's how you practice your faith you weren't going to get very far with me.

I have read the bible all the way through twice and I can't recall Jesus saying that being gay was a sin.
 
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I have plenty of knowledge on the subject, actually. I live in the real world. Please check your spelling in the future. "Unnatural is one word. So it procreate. Tell me again who lacks knowledge here?

Good Lord. Nit picking one's spelling is a white flag on your part. That was easy :lamo
 
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I have read the bible all the way through twice and I can't recall Jesus saying that being gay was a sin.

I have not read the Bible all the way through so much of it is unimportant. The Gospels I think contain the essence of Christianity or at least what I think the essence should be.

I haven't read much of the Old Testament however if I am suffering from insomnia I will read numbers and cure it in a moment. I read parts of Maccabees just because it was fascinating. A lot of people don't accept that as part of the Bible because it's not part of the Kings James Bible or something I don't know exactly. Either way it's stupid religious infighting.

I digress, I don't believe reading the Bible is important Beyond understanding the Gospels but then again I don't consider myself harder than any organized religion I believe what i believe because it seems either the most logical to me or it seems like the right thing to me.

I think everyone does this regardless of religion it's just that people aren't able to let go of the belonging part of a religious sect.
 
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I ask a Christian for proof God exists. He tells me the Bible says so. I ask who wrote the Bible? God, of course.

See what is happening here? It's called circular logic. There's poetry in the Bible, there's crap in the Bible.
It's a book written by men of antiquity. One thing I wouldn't ever do, is entrust my spirituality to it.
For ancient men, I prefer the words of Lao Tsu and Siddartha. As for Christ, I prefer the Gospel Of Thomas.

No one knows how the universe began, if it began at all. Science is just guessing. no harm in that, but they don't accept their guess work as Gospel. As far as what I believe, I have no idea. I don't concern myself with how the universe came to be, it's a fool's errand to even try.

Don't be silly.



No one knows, no one will ever know. Life is a mystery, it will be a mystery forever, it has been a mystery forever.

If you claim you know, you are a liar. "Knowledge", mankind has only a flicker of consciousness, he has only scratched the surface of the universe, he barely knows anything. Mankind is a baby just poking his head into the greater community of the universe, like a newborn babe coming into the world.
we are young, and we do not know much. You'd be a fool to think otherwise.

The most brilliant man in history, said: "The only true knowledge is knowing you know nothing". ---Socrates

Man knows data about material things, science has uncovered some of life's secrets, but nature is not going to let man have all her secrets, no way is she going to do that. but as for as philosophy, religion, the nature of things, etc., it's just man's quest to figure out the universe, and the best he can do is not believe it as fact, and accept it for what it is, in truth, fanciful guesswork.

I agree with Socrates...you know nothing.
 
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Good Lord. Nit picking one's spelling is a white flag on your part. That was easy :lamo

Nope my first sentence was that I live in the real world. You distort reality in order for life to make sense given your narrow views on the subject of homosexuality.
 
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My parents are dead. God will judge whether they were proud or not.

Did they teach you the word, "homocake"?
 
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Nope my first sentence was that I live in the real world. You distort reality in order for life to make sense given your narrow views on the subject of homosexuality.

Any body who disagrees with you has a narrow view? That's not true. I just ask they quit acting like savages, and go somewhere private. How is that a narrow view? I think your rigid beliefs has distorted your view, cloaked in false righteousness.
 
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Something flaming homos want cooked up to satisfy their degenerate lustful desires.

I thought they were just joking. Man those Gay dude's they love to stick anything and everything up their asses. They even lick that **** clean with their tongues.

They will have sex with anyone, day after day for years. Where is the good part of being Gay? It must be a horrible existence.

What's a flaming homo?
 
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Something flaming homos want cooked up to satisfy their degenerate lustful desires.

Well okay I understand it's something they want cooked up for their degenerate lustful desires. I didn't ask who wants it and why I asked what is it?

Is it some sort of special cake made with orphan blood or something?
 
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Who wants to 'control your sex life'? In fact, considering the understanding of agency and the ability to choose, even things that are in opposition to Gods laws, wouldnt you have to say that in no way shape or form would anyone that is Christian be attempting to control your sex life?

Didn't we in this country have sodomy laws on the books for a long time, until a Supreme Court ruling in 2003? I'm sure we did, and the justification for them was religious, i.e. Christianity, as interpreted by Christians or those who believed themselves to be and claimed to be Christians.
 
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Taking yourself in your opinions out of the topic it becomes very nuanced.

Because if I reject what you say is a truism you are left having to prove it and you have failed to do so. I can look across the Spectrum of Christianity and see quite a number of variances between different religious sects.

I can see several that defy your claim that homosexuality is seen as a sin.

Now I would assume you would just say that they're wrong because they don't go by your interpretation of the Bible, or the interpretation of the Bible that you were told was the correct one.

So if I'm not a narcissist it is nuanced.


here's where the Nuance comes in believe it or not there are other people on the planet that think differently than your do. And there is room to say the Bible does not make any condemnations of homosexuality that's what I believe.

You can rant and Rave pound your chest screeching till the end of time that I'm wrong but you cannot prove it.


Actually they're not with regard to homosexuality.

Now if all you're going to do is come back and say "duh yes they are" or quote some Modern English translation that has been edited countless times then I am going to laugh at you.

If you really did study the Bible and the scriptures and the languages and the cultures in which they were written in which I severely doubt because you don't believe it's that nuanced I may not laugh at you.

I don't care what you believe if you say you're Cristian I take you at your word I don't care what you do or who you are because everyone is a sinner and I will not judge you as being non-Christian because you don't agree with me I am more grown-up than that I understand there is nuance in things like religion. And I don't bolster my beliefs as though they are fact I am not that insecure.

But I don't believe the Bible Jesus ever said homosexuality is a sin. You can agree to disagree but you can't make me agree with you on that. If you need to dominates people if that's how you practice your faith you weren't going to get very far with me.

:lamo

No one is trying to dominate you. Stop...it’s pathetic.

This topic asked the Christian position on homosexuality. There is only one...acceptance of Gods word. You can try to twist it to somehow make homosexuality NOT a sin. God bless America, you have that right. You know you are wrong...just as you know everyone that tries to excuse or justify or rationalize their positions are also wrong. But you have the right to do it. No one is stopping you from expressing a delusion or living a life that God has declared to be a sin.


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Thats just...goofy. Even when gay marriage was illegal...which is a societal law...did someone try to prevent you from choosing to be and act upon your sexuality?

Yes, it was a societal law advanced by Christians, using their Christian faith as a basis/justification for the law.

And yes, until 2003 laws on the books criminalized homosexual conduct.
 
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