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[W:190] What is it with Trump and windmills?

We are talking renewable. What kind of renewable energy will jets use?

We will see where the tech takes us. Would you rather that we don't do the research?
 
Does what for amusement? Says stupid and dumb ****? You're right in that the left would prefer an adult as president and not a 4-year old temper tantruming child like Trump. It is the Trump supporters that are looking like the foolish ones supporting a clown rather than a professional adult.

The clown is doing a great job, unless you are a liberal. All I care about is the bottom line. I don't care how stupid Trump looks.
 
Don't take it personally. America has a huge (literally), obesity problem. Walking helps everyone, including you, whether you're fat or not. You weren't born with a car welded onto your hip, and you have legs for more reasons than just pressing a gas pedal.
But of course I take it personally. You addressed me personally. How do you get away with that? What makes you special?
 
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Don't take it personally. America has a huge (literally), obesity problem. Walking helps everyone, including you, whether you're fat or not. You weren't born with a car welded onto your hip, and you have legs for more reasons than just pressing a gas pedal.

Since I got my e-bike, I've lost over 20 lbs and kept it off, blood pressure down, blood sugar down. I've done about 2700 miles on my bike in the last year and a half. Thankfully, I have lots of good routes to ride, Phoenix is cris-crossed with canals that have nice bike paths that cut through the town, go through some really nice desert preserves and the like. My girlfriend is the monster though, she did a 50 mile ride this weekend on a regular bike, and she is 54 years old.
 
The clown is doing a great job, unless you are a liberal. All I care about is the bottom line. I don't care how stupid Trump looks.

Actually he isn't doing a good job. He's looked foolish for saying Kim could be trusted and they have a love affair, he's alienated long standing allies, screwed the American public with his tariff war, is the most corrupt president since Nixon, admires dictators in how they have beaten and brainwashed their citizens, has an ego the size of Jupiter and continues to look foolish every time he opens his mouth.

The fact is, you guys are the ones that look foolish supporting that moron.
 
But of course I take it personally. You addressed me personally. How do you get away with that? What makes you special?

Sounds like you got triggered. Do you need a safe space?
 
But of course I take it personally. You addressed me personally. How do you get away with that? What makes you special?

Did I say you were obese? I clearly said, and I paraphrase, 'try walking sometime and you'll go some way toward addressing America's obesity epidemic'.
 
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Did I say you were obese? I clearly said, and I paraphrase, 'try walking and you'll go some way toward addressing America's obesity epidemic'.

Someone is just trying to make trolling posts and get the last word. Its a desperate tactic when they have no argument.
 
The clown is doing a great job, unless you are a liberal. All I care about is the bottom line. I don't care how stupid Trump looks.
This isn't a business, it's a nation. And you likely don't understand debt cycles, so much ludacris crediting of the performance of the entire economy on one individual.

Tell me how being able to pour sludge into our nation's rivers has boosted the economy? Which regulation repealed is responsible for this alleged explosion of growth? Do you even know what the majority of jobs are that are being created in this economy?

Nearly half of American are still struggling to get by, but whatever let's celebrate exacerbated wealth inequality right before a major recession hits! Woohoo!!!
 
Since I got my e-bike, I've lost over 20 lbs and kept it off, blood pressure down, blood sugar down. I've done about 2700 miles on my bike in the last year and a half. Thankfully, I have lots of good routes to ride, Phoenix is cris-crossed with canals that have nice bike paths that cut through the town, go through some really nice desert preserves and the like. My girlfriend is the monster though, she did a 50 mile ride this weekend on a regular bike, and she is 54 years old.

Good on you guys.
 
Did I say you were obese? I clearly said, and I paraphrase, 'try walking and you'll go some way toward addressing America's obesity epidemic'.
Yes! You did! Otherwise my walking would have no effect on Americ’s Obesity problem. I want to know how you get away with being so uncivil?
 
This isn't a business, it's a nation. And you likely don't understand debt cycles, so much ludacris crediting of the performance of the entire economy on one individual.

Tell me how being able to pour sludge into our nation's rivers has boosted the economy? Which regulation repealed is responsible for this alleged explosion of growth? Do you even know what the majority of jobs are that are being created in this economy?

Nearly half of American are still struggling to get by, but whatever let's celebrate exacerbated wealth inequality right before a major recession hits! Woohoo!!!

Under Obama the rich got richer and the poor got poorer and the economy ran at 1.6%.
 
Under Obama the rich got richer and the poor got poorer and the economy ran at 1.6%.

Under Trump the rich are getting way richer, the poor is still getting poorer and we have an even higher deficit now.
 
Does what for amusement? Says stupid and dumb ****? You're right in that the left would prefer an adult as president and not a 4-year old temper tantruming child like Trump. It is the Trump supporters that are looking like the foolish ones supporting a clown rather than a professional adult.

Please help the DNC find a "professional adult" other than Biden, Bernie, Harris or "Beto".
 
Yes! You did! Otherwise my walking would have no effect on Americ’s Obesity problem. I want to know how you get away with being so uncivil?

You evidently have reading comprehension issues. Did you never hear of leading by example? Who knows, you may be a 150 pound stripling. Your friends might be obese, and by walking you'll be showing them how easy it is to lose weight and be a healthier person. Is it clear now?
 
Under Trump the rich are getting way richer, the poor is still getting poorer and we have an even higher deficit now.

Obama added 5 trillion dollars to our debt, the highest of any president, ever.
 
You evidently have reading comprehension issues. Did you never hear of leading by example? Who knows, you may be a 150 pound stripling. Your friends might be obese, and by walking you'll be showing them how easy it is to lose weight and be a healthier person. Is it clear now?

It’s clear you are trying to weasel out of being uncivil.
 
I could post other articles but no source or data that could be presented would ever satisfy the wind nuts. Wind won't work. Of course, you'll only learn that after wasting billions of dollars. Then you'll blame someone else. Same ole, same ole.

BTW, did you see the article referencing a Harvard study? I guess Harvard is now a far right institution. Who knew?

The President didn't say 'piles of bald eagles' but that a lot of them are being killed which is true.

. . .The guest commentary by Noreen Walsh highlighting the conflict between wind farms and both bald and golden eagles pointedly fails to mention the number of such birds killed annually by collisions with the blades. While the Interior Department refuses to release the actual number, most estimates by both industry and environmental groups put the number of those deaths at between 300 and 500 per year. . .​
The facts about how many eagles are killed by wind turbines

Nobody can accuse the Denver Post of being a right wing partisan publication.

Maybe it isn't an alarming rate because birds find all sorts of ways to kill themselves on human erected structures, but that is quite a pile of birds just the same.

It isn't pretty. Google photos of bald eagles killed by wind turbines and you will see that it does happen. And despite President Trump's statement re bald eagles, the billions in subsidies to renewable energy continue even now. On our trip to Arkansas two weeks ago we saw two new large wind farms going up near I-40. I don't think danger to birds is a primary factor in a national discussion on whether we are getting our money's worth in those massive subsidies mostly from the federal government but also from some state governments.

I read recently that Germany's wind turbines are becoming unprofitable after 20 years of use and we are increasingly seeing the waste and blight as wind farms go off line. I think it is not unreasonable to evaluate whether we actually help the planet considering the enormous expense and huge carbon footprint to build and install a wind turbine. If it is profitable both for the environment and economically over the long haul, I sure wish somebody could provide me with believable, non partisan/greed/politically motivated information that would convince me.

I sure hate seeing scenes like this that are becoming more common all the time:

hawaii-rusting-turbines-e1398392615474.png
in-johnnas-kitchen-wind-farm-hawaii.jpg
 
The President didn't say 'piles of bald eagles' but that a lot of them are being killed which is true.

. . .The guest commentary by Noreen Walsh highlighting the conflict between wind farms and both bald and golden eagles pointedly fails to mention the number of such birds killed annually by collisions with the blades. While the Interior Department refuses to release the actual number, most estimates by both industry and environmental groups put the number of those deaths at between 300 and 500 per year. . .​
The facts about how many eagles are killed by wind turbines

Nobody can accuse the Denver Post of being a right wing partisan publication.

Maybe it isn't an alarming rate because birds find all sorts of ways to kill themselves on human erected structures, but that is quite a pile of birds just the same.

It isn't pretty. Google photos of bald eagles killed by wind turbines and you will see that it does happen. And despite President Trump's statement re bald eagles, the billions in subsidies to renewable energy continue even now. On our trip to Arkansas two weeks ago we saw two new large wind farms going up near I-40. I don't think danger to birds is a primary factor in a national discussion on whether we are getting our money's worth in those massive subsidies mostly from the federal government but also from some state governments.

I read recently that Germany's wind turbines are becoming unprofitable after 20 years of use and we are increasingly seeing the waste and blight as wind farms go off line. I think it is not unreasonable to evaluate whether we actually help the planet considering the enormous expense and huge carbon footprint to build and install a wind turbine. If it is profitable both for the environment and economically over the long haul, I sure wish somebody could provide me with believable, non partisan/greed/politically motivated information that would convince me.

I sure hate seeing scenes like this that are becoming more common all the time:

hawaii-rusting-turbines-e1398392615474.png
in-johnnas-kitchen-wind-farm-hawaii.jpg

Machinery in constant use for 20 years is going to wear out. Everything does given time; you don't see many efficient 20 year-old cars on the road.
 
Obama added 5 trillion dollars to our debt, the highest of any president, ever.

And Trump is in track to adding that during his first term which will be worse. So do you really care about the national debt? The answer is no you don’t.
 
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