Vindman's lawyer requests Fox News retract guest's allegation about espionage

[CaughtInThe]

Yoo isn't saying that. All republicans aren't saying that. Some might, though, which makes it a true statement.

Oh, some republicans are definitely saying that this US military man has engaged in espionage which of course is a lie promoted by Rush and Sean with a wink and a smile. That's what makes this story even better

Sane Americans are not arguing with World War II era republicans. We are arguing with the slimy 2019 variety.

 

[tres borrachos]

Trump sees the Ten Commandments more like a "To Do" list than proscription...

More like someone else's "To Do".

 

[danielpalos]

We should need a Consensus of the one percent not any intimidation of the ninety-nine percent.

We have a Senate.

 

[marke]

or, you know, ask Fox to retract a lie.

didn't you say you believe in the 10 Commandments? or is that a part time thing?

Democrat liars on Schiftt's lying impeachment scam committee and their crooked deceived supporters in the media and public routinely falsely accuse conservatives of lying. After a while you just sort of get used to it and ignore them to some extent.

 

[marke]

They usually spoke in the language the President understands. Why would that be espionage or not in the best interest of administration policy?

Question: Lt. Col. Vindmann, can you tell us why you refused to do your duty and take your concerns to your superiors rather than meet in secret with the whistleblower and half a dozen others who had no business being informed of a secret phone call?

Col. Vindmann: I am sworn to defend and obey the Constitution and I could see that I was the only American in charge of diplomatic affairs in Ukraine who properly understood the treasonous behavior by the president and felt it was my patriotic duty to bypass regular channels to let other more experienced officials outside of the president's hand picked group of neophytes to let the whole world know what was going on.

 

[marke]

Since when do Americans promote Putin's policies in Ukraine? Trump and Guilliani are. They work for Putin. Guilliani was paid $500,000 by Putin for his efforts too.

Putin's goal was to sow discord in the American political world, not to support Trump. According to witness Fiona Hill, Russians "played" Christopher Steele to deliver a corrupted "Russian dossier" into the hands of democrats to falsely begin a long investigation of Trump on false pretenses. Also posted in her resume in coming before the impeachment committee, Fiona Hill admitted she worked directly for George Soros from 2000-2006 at his Open Society Institutute of New York.

 

[danielpalos]

Question: Lt. Col. Vindmann, can you tell us why you refused to do your duty and take your concerns to your superiors rather than meet in secret with the whistleblower and half a dozen others who had no business being informed of a secret phone call?

Col. Vindmann: I am sworn to defend and obey the Constitution and I could see that I was the only American in charge of diplomatic affairs in Ukraine who properly understood the treasonous behavior by the president and felt it was my patriotic duty to bypass regular channels to let other more experienced officials outside of the president's hand picked group of neophytes to let the whole world know what was going on.

What part of that is the treason part?

 

[Lovebug]

Vindman's lawyer requests Fox News retract guest's allegation about espionage | TheHill


"During the segment, host Laura Ingraham told John Yoo — who was a top attorney for the George W. Bush administration — "We have a U.S. national security official who is advising Ukraine, while working inside the White House, apparently against the president’s interest, and usually, they spoke in English."

"Isn’t that kind of an interesting angle on this story?” Ingraham asked Yoo.

Yoo replied: "I found that astounding. Some people might call that espionage."


Are there any idiots left in our country that think the Republican Party is "pro" military? Or even "pro" Christian values?

What makes him an exception? Has MSNBC apologized to Gabbard?

 

[CaughtInThe]

Democrat liars on Schiftt's lying impeachment scam committee and their crooked deceived supporters in the media and public routinely falsely accuse conservatives of lying. After a while you just sort of get used to it and ignore them to some extent.

I notice you ignored the 10 commandments question.

 

[Somerville]

Question: Lt. Col. Vindmann, can you tell us why you refused to do your duty and take your concerns to your superiors rather than meet in secret with the whistleblower and half a dozen others who had no business being informed of a secret phone call?

Col. Vindmann: I am sworn to defend and obey the Constitution and I could see that I was the only American in charge of diplomatic affairs in Ukraine who properly understood the treasonous behavior by the president and felt it was my patriotic duty to bypass regular channels to let other more experienced officials outside of the president's hand picked group of neophytes to let the whole world know what was going on.

Are your political beliefs so insecure that you must post a complete and utter lie about Lt Col Vindmann's testimony? Just curious.

 

[cabse5]

Oh, some republicans are definitely saying that this US military man has engaged in espionage which of course is a lie promoted by Rush and Sean with a wink and a smile. That's what makes this story even better

Sane Americans are not arguing with World War II era republicans. We are arguing with the slimy 2019 variety.

You win after you moved the goal posts...Sometimes I get tired of using the straw man phrase to describe other posts.

 

[cabse5]

Question: Lt. Col. Vindmann, can you tell us why you refused to do your duty and take your concerns to your superiors rather than meet in secret with the whistleblower and half a dozen others who had no business being informed of a secret phone call?

Col. Vindmann: I am sworn to defend and obey the Constitution and I could see that I was the only American in charge of diplomatic affairs in Ukraine who properly understood the treasonous behavior by the president and felt it was my patriotic duty to bypass regular channels to let other more experienced officials outside of the president's hand picked group of neophytes to let the whole world know what was going on.

The house could meet Vindman in secret where Vindman could out the whistle blower (and maybe Schiff could out the whistle blower, as well) while the identity of the whistle blower would still be unknown and danger would be less for the whistle blower.

 

[Somerville]

At this stage I disagree with you. At some point, "News" needs to not be allowed to be used for fake partisan opinion shows - full stop - on all stations.

This is not a very "Libertarian" attitude. All the country really needs is the return of the Fairness Doctrine - every broadcast media, radio, TV and internet, should be required to provide equal time for opposing views.

 

[Obscurity]

This is not a very "Libertarian" attitude. All the country really needs is the return of the Fairness Doctrine - every broadcast media, radio, TV and internet, should be required to provide equal time for opposing views.

I don't care if it's not "libertarian." Libertarianism as a central ideological perspective is farcical and kindergarten. I adhere with a more Chomsky style left libertarianism, and am a pragmatist in that regard.

Words matter. Calling something news when it isn't News is a misrepresentation and an outright lie.

 

[marke]

What part of that is the treason part?

According to Miriam Webster definition, treason is "the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family."

Vindmann was just an ignorant patsy of the larger Communist Democrat Party USA decades long policy of promoting acts of violence and sedition designed to undermine the Constitution, the US government, and the President of the United States.

Vindmann owed his allegiance to the Commander in chief and violated his oath of office, his professional responsibilities and duties, and committed an act of sedition by illegally leaking (coupled with his invalid personal opinions) a secret government communication in violation of his orders, his oath and the laws of the United States.

And to think his corrupt handlers and comrade communist enemies of the state want to impeach Trump for just doing his job in a responsible manner.

 

[marke]

I notice you ignored the 10 commandments question.

I generally do not discuss the Bible with those who show evidence of an unwillingness to learn what it actually teaches contrary to popular heathen misconceptions.

 

[marke]

Are your political beliefs so insecure that you must post a complete and utter lie about Lt Col Vindmann's testimony? Just curious.

Like Schiftt did with Trump's phone call, I was just offering a paraphrase of the actual wording of the facts. Here are the facts:

1. Vindmann overheard a conversation between Trump and the Ukrainian president and developed concerns about what was being said.

2. Overlooking the fact of his expressed high opinion of himself and his essential involvement in Ukraine policy to the exclusion of all others, Vindmann violated the rules outlining his duties bypassing his superior and going straight to the CIA lawyer, which was not his job. He furthermore blabbed his personal opinions about the secret government conversation he was illegally leaking all over the place to family members, friends and to the corrupt democrat whistleblower. All such leaking to unauthorized people was a huge violation of federal laws governing the protection of secret government communications.

 

[Casca XV]

Vindman's lawyer requests Fox News retract guest's allegation about espionage | TheHill


"During the segment, host Laura Ingraham told John Yoo — who was a top attorney for the George W. Bush administration — "We have a U.S. national security official who is advising Ukraine, while working inside the White House, apparently against the president’s interest, and usually, they spoke in English."

"Isn’t that kind of an interesting angle on this story?” Ingraham asked Yoo.

Yoo replied: "I found that astounding. Some people might call that espionage."


Are there any idiots left in our country that think the Republican Party is "pro" military? Or even "pro" Christian values?

The GOP is Pro military. This guy is just a "Petty Bureaucrat" who insists on being called a "Lieutenant Cornel."

 

[Somerville]

Like Schiftt did with Trump's phone call, I was just offering a paraphrase of the actual wording of the facts. Here are the facts:

1. Vindmann overheard a conversation between Trump and the Ukrainian president and developed concerns about what was being said.

2. Overlooking the fact of his expressed high opinion of himself and his essential involvement in Ukraine policy to the exclusion of all others, Vindmann violated the rules outlining his duties bypassing his superior and going straight to the CIA lawyer, which was not his job. He furthermore blabbed his personal opinions about the secret government conversation he was illegally leaking all over the place to family members, friends and to the corrupt democrat whistleblower. All such leaking to unauthorized people was a huge violation of federal laws governing the protection of secret government communications.

1. Is True

2. Is delusional nonsense - and a not-surprising response

 

[Fletch]

Vindman's lawyer requests Fox News retract guest's allegation about espionage | TheHill


"During the segment, host Laura Ingraham told John Yoo — who was a top attorney for the George W. Bush administration — "We have a U.S. national security official who is advising Ukraine, while working inside the White House, apparently against the president’s interest, and usually, they spoke in English."

"Isn’t that kind of an interesting angle on this story?” Ingraham asked Yoo.

Yoo replied: "I found that astounding. Some people might call that espionage."


Are there any idiots left in our country that think the Republican Party is "pro" military? Or even "pro" Christian values?

No one is allowed to voice an opinion that the left disagrees with now?

Are there any idiots left in this country who think the Democrat party is pro free speech or gives a crap about the Constitution?

 

[Fletch]

This is not a very "Libertarian" attitude. All the country really needs is the return of the Fairness Doctrine - every broadcast media, radio, TV and internet, should be required to provide equal time for opposing views.

Another totalitarian leftist who wants to control speech.

 

[Somerville]

No one is allowed to voice an opinion that the left disagrees with now?

Are there any idiots left in this country who think the Democrat party is pro free speech or gives a crap about the Constitution?

An "opinion" which calls into question the patriotism of an active-duty military personnel may be viewed as Defamation. In the case of Lt Col Vindmann, his becoming more of a 'public figure' than an ordinary soldier does raise the bar on what may be seen as Defamation

Defamation, Slander and Libel

Defamation is an area of law that provides a civil remedy when someone's words end up causing harm to your reputation or your livelihood. Libel is a written or published defamatory statement, while slander is defamation that is spoken by the defendant. In this section, we'll explain what you need to prove if you're bringing a defamation lawsuit, and what to expect at each step of your case, including common defenses to a defamation claim.

Defamation, Public Officials, and the Media
When it comes to defamation law in general (and libel and slander lawsuits in particular), the law considers a number of competing interests when government officials and the media are involved in the statement at issue: the public's access to information, individuals' reputations, and public officials' ability to efficiently perform their duties. Unsurprisingly, the interplay between these interests can quickly become contentious. Courts treat the overlap between the First Amendment and defamation laws delicately, by looking at the facts of each particular case.

 

[marke]

1. Is True

2. Is delusional nonsense - and a not-surprising response

Vindmann was consumed with his own imagined self-importance. He rebuked a congressman for not addressing him by his military rank so the congressman returned by rebuking him for not addressing his proper rank also. Vindmann lied about advising the Ukrainian president not to get involved with American politics, as though he had a lot of responsibility to instruct the Ukrainian president even though in reality he was just a lowlife on the diplomatic scale. When asked how many times he had met with the Ukrainian president he vaguely suggested he had met with him many times. When pressed to answer how many times he had spoken to the Ukrainian face to face and one on one, he admitted he had never done so. His contact with the Ukrainian president had always been as part of a group, not one on one.

Vindmann considered it his job to correct President Trump on foreign policy. What an egotistical moron. He was joined in that egotistical foolishness by others also, like Dr. Hill and Ambassador Taylor. He was too proud and stupid to realize it was Trump's job to set the diplomatic standard, not his. He created a huge diplomatic and American stability mess by taking his dummass complaint to a lawyer he has no business talking to, and by leaking contents of a secret phone conversation to family members, friends, the press and to the anti-Trump seditious whistleblower.

 

[Fletch]

An "opinion" which calls into question the patriotism of an active-duty military personnel may be viewed as Defamation. In the case of Lt Col Vindmann, his becoming more of a 'public figure' than an ordinary soldier does raise the bar on what may be seen as Defamation

LIke a good liberal, you want the opponents of Trump to be beyond reproach. The fact is, there are legitimate reasons to question his loyalty. He would hardly be the first traitor to wear the uniform.

 

[marke]

Vindman's lawyer requests Fox News retract guest's allegation about espionage | TheHill


"During the segment, host Laura Ingraham told John Yoo — who was a top attorney for the George W. Bush administration — "We have a U.S. national security official who is advising Ukraine, while working inside the White House, apparently against the president’s interest, and usually, they spoke in English."

"Isn’t that kind of an interesting angle on this story?” Ingraham asked Yoo.

Yoo replied: "I found that astounding. Some people might call that espionage."


Are there any idiots left in our country that think the Republican Party is "pro" military? Or even "pro" Christian values?

The moronic lawyer of the treasonous buffoon in military garb had his feelings hurt because good people referred to the illegal actions of the treasonous buffoon as seditious? Poor whiney-butt leftist crybaby.