Re: US set to announce it rejects Palestinian ‘right of return’
1. There is no border. The Arabs made sure there wasn’t. So there is no “Palestinian side of the border” to retreat from. As long as the Israelis did not encroach on Palestinian population centres (which, if you have seen the area, isn’t particularly hard), I don’t really see much of an issue. As for Jerusalem, the status quo works pretty well and there is no reason to change it, particularly since none of it was Palestinian before given equal application of the typical anti-Israel position on West Jerusalem.
2. There is no impact of Israeli communities on the seam line or Jordan valley on the viability of a Palestinian state. That is a complete fiction.
3. There is a word for a policy involving the mass expulsion of people from their communities.
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Of course there is a border and that is used to define what is referred to as Occupied Palestinian Territories. You can call it a Green Line an Armistice Line if you want to but there is definitely a line of reference that I can call a border if I choose to
As for the rest it was just as I expected , full of Jewish supremacist rejectionism
Sure it's ridiculous that the Palestinians hope for a right of return seeing as what that would mean for the demographic make up of the state of Israel and people are right to wish to see it taken off the table but when it comes to concessions for Jews to make with regards to the presence of hundreds of thousands of ILLEGAL Jewish settlers and what that means for a Palestinian state you don't see an issue. Because they are only Arabs after all and if they want the Jews to let them have their state they are going to have to give up all of their rights and the Jews can just carry on flouting the law as illegal settlers.
That's only one aspect of the obvious Jewish supremacist logic expressed in that post , more follows
As for things " working " serving as a justification for their continuance , well , it's just a terrible argument. The slave trade worked well as a system . Other systems that would earn me points if brought up/cited worked well whilst obviously being repugnant
WRT what the continued presence of hundreds of thousands of illegal settlers would mean for the Palestinians and their would be state we only have to look at how the annexation wall has isolated towns and villages from eachother. How it has separated Palestinians from their land . How the encirclement of East Jerusalem has separated it, and thousands of Palestinians living there , from the rest of the WB. How the Israelis/settlers have commandeered much/most of the water resources for themselves with one report stating that they use around six times more water per capita than do the Palestinians . We see Israelis with piped water and swimming pools on their properties whilst the Arab residents are carting drums around.
Then there is the cultural and security aspects which sees the supremacy of Jews in OPT. They are lording it over the Arabs there with relative impunity and the assistance of the IDF. Whole Arab neighbourhoods being locked down to accommodate Jewish antagonistic marches or rallies etc. Settler violence against Arabs and their communities/property were the PA police aren't allowed to act but were IDF personnel have the rights to tackle anyone anywhere. If that's not a sign of the insecurity to come should these illegals be allowed to stay then I don't know what else is.
Jews only roads connecting illegal settlements criss crossing through the territory leading to an obstacle for any planned Palestinian planning
And the " mass expulsions " you speak of are horrific if they are applied to Jews but are perfectly reasonable if applied to Palestinians. Those who have been forced to flee and not allowed back to the WB/Gaza were the victims of a mass expulsion that you appear to have no issue with.
In short your post reads the Arabs should take whatever the Israelis can foist upon them , give up their rights so Jews will let them have some territory they can decide on what days the bins are emptied etc
Should they ever give up the right of return themselves just look at your complete rejectionism of everything else in the post above.
The Arabs that were forced out must stay out
The Israelis that were illegally imported in can stay in regardless of the law or how their presence will impact on Palestinian life
Jerusalem , including East Jerusalem which is occupied Palestinian Territory , should remain Jewish only and to hell with the law and what the Arabs want or how an isolated and separated Jerusalem effects the Palestinian states future development
Your views are about as rejectionist as they can be and are coloured with none to hidden notions of Jewish supremacism at every turn
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