US employers add 313,000 jobs

[tres borrachos]

Why do you think I believed that race had something to do with this discussion? Someone replied to me with something I had no reason to consider on my own, all I did was say that.

I didn't say you did. I just quoted your comment about race in this discussion.

 

[tres borrachos]

Yes, he sure does which is why Employment after the Obama stimulus signed in February 2009 went from 142 million down to 139 million two years later. When the stimulus failed what did Obama do? Promoted ACA and not economic growth and activity with a willing Congress promoting social programs and spending. GDP growth for 2009 was still negative and not one year of the Obama term was 3%. That is a disaster

So Obama gets credit for his leadership during a dark economic time. That's what I said earlier.

 

[Conservative]

I never said anything about punishing anyone for success. No clue where you came up with that.

I did run a business. Right now I run a $12 million division of a multinational company. Yes, I do know a thing or two about business.

What do you think Democratic economic policy is all about, equal outcome not just equal opportunity. Been paying attention to the class warfare rhetoric

 

[Conservative]

So Obama gets credit for his leadership during a dark economic time. That's what I said earlier.

Yep, which is why he retained the House on 2010-2012 and the Congress in 2014-2016

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

According to my link from the BLS, it was the largest monthly job growth since October 2015. Is your point that point in time was during the Obama administration? Ok, can't argue that point.

The article title says from July 2016 that is my point

 

[tres borrachos]

What do you think Democratic economic policy is all about, equal outcome not just equal opportunity. Been paying attention to the class warfare rhetoric

Okay. And?

 

[tres borrachos]

Yep, which is why he retained the House on 2010-2012 and the Congress in 2014-2016

This thread wasn't about elections, I didn't think. It was about leadership and the impact it has on the economy. Did I misunderstand your OP, which I thought was about the economy?

 

[ALiberalModerate]

This is good news. Hopefully the tariffs / idiotic protectionism won't screw this up.

 

[Conservative]

This thread wasn't about elections, I didn't think. It was about leadership and the impact it has on the economy. Did I misunderstand your OP, which I thought was about the economy?

It is about the results of leadership which you brought up and those results were reflected in the Congressional elections and even in the 2012 Presidential election he got 4 million fewer votes. It is all about leadership and although Congress controls the purse strings and legislation the President sets the tone which is what Trump did with his EO's. The results speak for themselves. Here are the employment numbers

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Years: 2008 to 2018

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 146378 146156 146086 146132 145908 145737 145532 145203 145076 144802 144100 143369
2009 142152 141640 140707 140656 140248 140009 139901 139492 138818 138432 138659 138013
2010 138438 138581 138751 139297 139241 139141 139179 139438 139396 139119 139044 139301
2011 139250 139394 139639 139586 139624 139384 139524 139942 140183 140368 140826 140902
2012 141584 141858 142036 141899 142206 142391 142292 142291 143044 143431 143333 143330
2013 143292 143362 143316 143635 143882 143999 144264 144326 144418 143537 144479 144778
2014 145122 145161 145673 145680 145825 146267 146401 146522 146752 147411 147391 147597
2015 148113 148100 148175 148505 148788 148806 148830 149136 148810 149254 149486 150135
2016 150576 151005 151229 150978 151048 151164 151484 151687 151815 151939 152126 152233
2017 152076 152511 153064 153161 152892 153250 153511 153471 154324 153846 153917 154021
2018 154430 155215

 

[tres borrachos]

It is about the results of leadership which you brought up and those results were reflected in the Congressional elections and even in the 2012 Presidential election he got 4 million fewer votes. It is all about leadership and although Congress controls the purse strings and legislation the President sets the tone which is what Trump did with his EO's. The results speak for themselves. Here are the employment numbers

So you agree that President Obama was a good leader when the economy went from bleeding many thousands of jobs per month to gaining many thousands of jobs per month.

 

[Conservative]

So you agree that President Obama was a good leader when the economy went from bleeding many thousands of jobs per month to gaining many thousands of jobs per month.

Please get someone to help you read the employment numbers I just posted because you couldn't be more wrong. Bush was blamed for hundreds of thousands of jobs lost where as Obama lost millions even with his stimulus. stunning

 

[Acadia]

Please get someone to help you read the employment numbers I just posted because you couldn't be more wrong. Bush was blamed for hundreds of thousands of jobs lost where as Obama lost millions even with his stimulus. stunning

C'mon. You didn't get the memo?
Anything good that happens to the economy, under Trump, is credited to Obama.
Anything bad that happened to the economy, under Obama, is credited to Bush.

Get with the program

 

[Conservative]

C'mon. You didn't get the memo?
Anything good that happens to the economy, under Trump, is credited to Obama.
Anything bad that happened to the economy, under Obama, is credited to Bush.

Get with the program

My sincere apology as I didn't get the memo. There are over 4 million more Americans working today than in February 2016 and 1.7 million more than in February 2017, that is what should be celebrated

 

[Acadia]

My sincere apology as I didn't get the memo. There are over 4 million more Americans working today than in February 2016 and 1.7 million more than in February 2017, that is what should be celebrated

Trump. Winning!

 

[PeteEU]

May 2010, January 2012 and October 2015 were the only months during Obama administration with monthly job growth over 330k. Why bring up Obama?

Because the alt right pro Trump crowd are spreading lies like "best jobs since 1983" and such things.. So it is important to bring up the facts no? 330k is good, but it is the best the orange chimp has done so far, and only after what under Obama was considered by the orange chimp and his minions as "anemic".

 

[Acadia]

Because the alt right pro Trump crowd are spreading lies like "best jobs since 1983" and such things.. So it is important to bring up the facts no? 330k is good, but it is the best the orange chimp has done so far, and only after what under Obama was considered by the orange chimp and his minions as "anemic".

"alt-right" and the pro-Trump crowd are not synonymous.
You seem to like facts, so there's one for ya.

 

[tres borrachos]

Please get someone to help you read the employment numbers I just posted because you couldn't be more wrong. Bush was blamed for hundreds of thousands of jobs lost where as Obama lost millions even with his stimulus. stunning

So you're just being partisan and not giving Obama any credit. Okay, fair enough. I'm not partisan enough to play that way. I prefer to be honest and fair.

 

[Conservative]

Because the alt right pro Trump crowd are spreading lies like "best jobs since 1983" and such things.. So it is important to bring up the facts no? 330k is good, but it is the best the orange chimp has done so far, and only after what under Obama was considered by the orange chimp and his minions as "anemic".

Interesting so celebrating the 4 million more employed this February than 2016 and 1.7 million more than in February 2017 shouldn't be celebrated because it is compared to JULY?? Stunning how the left loves to try and defend the indefensible. What is it about liberalism that is so filled with hatred they cannot celebrate success?

 

[Conservative]

So you're just being partisan and not giving Obama any credit. Okay, fair enough. I'm not partisan enough to play that way. I prefer to be honest and fair.

I give Obama credit every day for giving us Trump!! results in context matter except to far too man mostly Obama supporters

 

[Acadia]

So you're just being partisan and not giving Obama any credit. Okay, fair enough. I'm not partisan enough to play that way. I prefer to be honest and fair.

And how many of Obama's 8 years did you blame Bush for the economy?

 

[MrWonka]

The recession which really started in 2006 was caused by the housing bubble bursting, not tax cuts.

Wrong. The housing bubble was caused by tax cuts. That's what happens when you give millionaires and billionaires who already have way more money than they know what to do with a whole bunch more. They start making more and more reckless investments because they don't care. It's like a person going to a casino with only $100 to lose. They initially start safe by playing nickel slots and $5 blackjack tables, but then they hit a jackpot early so now they're playing with house money. All of a sudden their bets get bigger and more reckless. They start trying out new games that they've never played before like craps or roulette. Before you know it, poof, their money is all gone.

When the wealthy get too wealthy and overconfident their tendency is to get fast and loose with the extra cash. We saw it during the .com bubble as well. Venture capitalists were just throwing money at anybody with a Computer Science degree. During the housing bubble, people were borrowing enormous money fast and loose to anybody that asked for it at extraordinary interest rates. They didn't care if one or two people couldn't pay because they were making so much on the interest they figured they were covered.

Our economy is already humming along just fine. Steady growth is the goal, not a radical unrealistic expansion that cannot be sustained. We should be paying down our debts from the last economic downturn so we're financially stable for the next one, and make sure we're not leaving our children in massive debt.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

Because the alt right pro Trump crowd are spreading lies like "best jobs since 1983" and such things.. So it is important to bring up the facts no? 330k is good, but it is the best the orange chimp has done so far, and only after what under Obama was considered by the orange chimp and his minions as "anemic".

I hadn't seen anything like that, could you point me to an article that says that? Googling your quote didn't come up with anything.

 

[tres borrachos]

And how many of Obama's 8 years did you blame Bush for the economy?

None. I voted for W Bush twice and didn't vote for Obama either time. Why do you ask? You could simply search my posts on here and get the answer.

 

[Acadia]

None. I voted for W Bush twice and didn't vote for Obama either time. Why do you ask? You could simply search my posts on here and get the answer.

No thanks. I'd rather ask directly.
Thanks for answering.

 

[holbritter]

Wrong. The housing bubble was caused by tax cuts. That's what happens when you give millionaires and billionaires who already have way more money than they know what to do with a whole bunch more. They start making more and more reckless investments because they don't care. It's like a person going to a casino with only $100 to lose. They initially start safe by playing nickel slots and $5 blackjack tables, but then they hit a jackpot early so now they're playing with house money. All of a sudden their bets get bigger and more reckless. They start trying out new games that they've never played before like craps or roulette. Before you know it, poof, their money is all gone.

When the wealthy get too wealthy and overconfident their tendency is to get fast and loose with the extra cash. We saw it during the .com bubble as well. Venture capitalists were just throwing money at anybody with a Computer Science degree. During the housing bubble, people were borrowing enormous money fast and loose to anybody that asked for it at extraordinary interest rates. They didn't care if one or two people couldn't pay because they were making so much on the interest they figured they were covered.

Our economy is already humming along just fine. Steady growth is the goal, not a radical unrealistic expansion that cannot be sustained. We should be paying down our debts from the last economic downturn so we're financially stable for the next one, and make sure we're not leaving our children in massive debt.

And how is tax cuts responsible for the greed of the banks?