Uh oh, republicans cant use the word "wall" anymore.

[Joecool44]

Joe, we were discussing how easily you ignore the facts and continue on with conservative narratives. you then ignore the facts and spew "something something Pelosi". I wish you could understand how funny that is. Why don't you attempt to respond to what I post for once. Let help you to understand. This thread is about republicans literally running away from the word "wall". yea, the word they've spewed for over two years is now somehow magically bad. there is simply nothing you can post to defend that. its what required your steady stream of "mistakes" and now your deflection. If your agenda requires you to play dumb and constantly deflect then there something wrong with your agenda. Yea joe, its that simple.

"We still don’t understand why the Democrats are so wholeheartedly against it. They voted for it in 2006. Then-Sen. Obama voted for it. Sen. Schumer voted for it. Sen. Clinton voted for it. So we don’t understand why Democrats are now playing politics just because Donald Trump is in office."

The Secure Fence Act of 2006, which was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by President George W. Bush, authorized about 700 miles of fencing along certain stretches of land between the border of the United States and Mexico.

The act also authorized the use of more vehicle barriers, checkpoints and lighting to curb illegal immigration, and the use of advanced technology such as satellites and unmanned aerial vehicles.

At the time the act was being considered, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer were all members of the Senate. (Schumer of New York is now the Senate minority leader.)

Obama, Clinton, Schumer and 23 other Democratic senators voted in favor of the act when it passed in the Senate by a vote of 80 to 19.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...heck-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/

 

[Born Free]

thanks for the laughs BF. You could keep your doctor. The narrative you want to obediently post is "he promised you can keep your plan".

this thread is about yet another example of republicans complete dishonesty.

Yeah and your GOD Obama told the american people 36 times that you can keep your Dr., you can keep your insurance and you'll save over $2,000 per family on your health insurance.

Your liberal GOD appreciates you covering for his lies.

Here you go 36 times lying to the people to sell his phony Obamacare.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...b3c6acdc5d6989643331ff42677e2dfa&action=click

 

[Vern]

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...heck-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/

Joe, I practically begged you to respond to what I posted. You continue to post whatever seems to pop into head. In your own words please explain what your latest post has to do with anything I posted. This is a debate forum so its not the "ultimate insult" conservatives always make it out to be. And Joe, don't respond as if you're pretending to not know the difference between wall and fence as defined by Trump. thanks in advance.

 

[Vern]

Yeah and your GOD Obama told the american people 36 times that you can keep your Dr., you can keep your insurance and you'll save over $2,000 per family on your health insurance.
Your liberal GOD appreciates you covering for his lies.
Here you go 36 times lying to the people to sell his phony Obamacare.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...b3c6acdc5d6989643331ff42677e2dfa&action=click

Geezus BF, you could keep your doctor with Obamacare. You simply had to find out what ins he took before picking a plan. If you promise not to tell I'll let you in on a secret: this is exactly what you had to do before Obamacare. Well, that's how it was for the people lucky enough to get ins. And BF, President Obama said his plan would have save people over 2500 (you're really bad remembering lying conservative narratives) but his plan died in congress. His plan being DOA was why (and read this slowly, very slowly) he compromised on the republican plan of mandates. and BF, I'd be willing to bet you learned these facts in the Obamacare forum. Every lying conservative narrative was addressed in it.

BF, I wish you could understand how funny it is that your are so concerned about integrity that you resort to lying about President Obama lying. Why doesn't this magic concern for integrity apply to Trump's non stop lying or even Bush's WMD lies? Oh that's right, because its magic. silly me.

and BF, can you answer a serious question. If Obamacare is as bad as you obediently believe, are you furious that republicans didn't repeal it? They tried so hard to repeal until they got complete control of the govt. Are just tuckered out or something?

 

[Born Free]

If Obamacare is as bad as you obediently believe

It's worse than that

Obamafail’s Stupidly,
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Putin told Obamafail to stay out of Crimea and he said yes sir. Stupidity
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Putin told Obamafail to NOT sell arms to Ukrainian and he said yes sir. Stupidity
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Putin told Obamafail to NOT put our missile defense shield in NATO, he again says yes sir. Stupidity
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Obamafail asked Putin of all people to certify that all of Syria’s WMD were taking out of Syria and Putin lied to Obamafail. Stupidity
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Obamafail told Russia that once he is reelected he can be more flexible to what Putin wants. How stupid was that. Obamafail loved Putin and did whatever Putin wanted. Watch the video. Stupidity
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https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...ebe22615f3d65bfe65b0b38fafc50134&action=click
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Obamafail was in office and what did he do to shut down NK’s nuclear program. Absolutely nothing. Obamafail was a stupid coward.
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Obamafail flies in the middle of the night to Iran to deliver billions in cash so that Iran can fund their terrorists group without the money being traced. Stupidity
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Obamafail cuts a deal with Iran to delay the making of nukes for 10 yrs and the agreement does not have inspections anywhere anytime. Not only that, no one can inspect any of Iran’s military bases. Stupidity
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Obamafail pulls out of Iraq and leaves ISIS to materialize and when they do he calls them the JV Team. However that JV Team was not JV at all, making Obamafail to go back into Iraq to try to eradicate ISIS by tying the hands of our military. Thus he could not eradicate ISIS. Stupidity
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Obamafail yells out his RED LINE to Syria to never use WMD’s on its people again, Yep Syria walked all over Obamafail’s RED LINE. Obamafail does nothing. What a ****ing dumbass coward.
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Obamafail bombs the crap out of Lybia and walks away. And in doing so the resistance builds and raids our embassy killing four of our own. And Obamafail goes around calling it a protest of some stupid video. How stupid can this dumbass be?
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Obamafail borrows and spends 10 trillion doubling our national and has the crown of borrowing more than all the president before him combinded. And what did we get, the worst economic recovery in US History. Stupidity
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Obamafail gives Solyndra 400 million of tax payer money to make solar panels, the company goes broke. Stupidity
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Obamafail bails out GM with taxpayer money that we lost 11.2 billion on the deal. Stupidity https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/30/gm-bailout-cost_n_5240260.html
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Obamafail campaigned on closing Clubgetmo and guess what it’s still in use. Stupidity
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Obamafail’s signature so called achievement was Obamacare that he promised you can keep your Dr., you can keep your insurance, and you’ll save $2,500 per yr per family on your health insurance. Guess what Obamacare was a complete failure. Stupidity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpa-5JdCnmo
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Obamafail’s rollout of Obamacare was the worst in US History, and he had to continue to write executive orders to push out dates of different parts of Obamacare so that it would not crash under his term in office. Not one Republican voted for Obamafails signature failure. Stupidity
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Obamafail locked up Utah’s land for a park but that got overturned by Trump. How stupid was that????
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/28/obama-claims-16m-western-acres-national-monuments/
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Obamafail, did what to get NATO to get them to pay their fair share which is 2% of their GDP, but none of them were paying up except the US paying our share and subsidizing them. Stupidity
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Obamafail buys his allies, Stupidity

Obamafail killed the Keystone pipeline, why? Because he thought the pipeline would be safer and less expensive, can’t have that so he killed it. Stupidity
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What did Obamafail do against China for stealing our intellectual capital? And China ripping us off on trade. He did not a ****ing thing, what a stupid coward he was?
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What did Obamafail do to kill NAFTA that was ripping off our country? And renegotiate NAFTA for a better deal. What a stupid coward he was?
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Obamafail cuts a deal with Iran so they can have nukes in 10 yrs. and he has no inspections anytime anywhere. BTW Obamafail could not go on an Iran military bass. How stupid is that. Remember Reagan’s famous quote “trust but verify” Obamafail missed that speech.
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I could go on and on but no use.
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I would say Harvard didn’t teach him a ****ing thing.

 

[Top Cat]

You're arguing semantics..., :

Build that barrier! If you think for a second that is semantics, it would explain your support of Trump.

He's not getting his beloved wall. You know, the one Mexico is paying for... Hook, line and sinker. You bit.

 

[Vern]

It's worse than that
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er uh BF, you posting your "wall of lies" about President Obama doesn't really address the thread topic. I guess you clinging to these lies has some therapeutic value to help you "rationalize" trump's non stop lies but the fact remains, conservatives are trying to pretend trump didn't describe his wall in detail and said mexico would pay for it. All the lies in the world about President Obama doesn't change that.

 

[Born Free]

er uh BF, you posting your "wall of lies" about President Obama doesn't really address the thread topic. I guess you clinging to these lies has some therapeutic value to help you "rationalize" trump's non stop lies but the fact remains, conservatives are trying to pretend trump didn't describe his wall in detail and said mexico would pay for it. All the lies in the world about President Obama doesn't change that.

Are you saying Obama's lies are equal to Trump's?

 

[Vern]

Are you saying Obama's lies are equal to Trump's?

When did you stop beating your wife?

 

[Bullseye]

Sounds like a white flag to me.

Sounds more like an attempt to rescue the irrational mob of slobberslinging , aka Democrats, from their pavlovian reaction to the word.

 

[MrPeanut]

This is an important argument for Democrats. A border wall is not the same as border security. Trump has lied about Democrats supporting open borders for a while now, and he is looking to shift the debate towards border security because it sounds better. Democrats need to keep hammering the fact that Trump wants a wall specifically and not give in to some imaginary idea that they don't care about security.

 

[Born Free]

When did you stop beating your wife?

You libs are just full of Bull****. Pathetic.

 

[Vern]

You libs are just full of Bull****. Pathetic.

You realize you're in a thread where republicans are pretending they didn't say "wall" over and over. And this wall was described as 40 foot high and made of concrete and 2000 miles long. And this is key, your dear leader bristled when it was called a fence.

 

[Vern]

Sounds more like an attempt to rescue the irrational mob of slobberslinging , aka Democrats, from their pavlovian reaction to the word.

You realize you're in a thread where republicans are pretending they didn't say "wall" over and over. And this wall was described as 40 foot high and made of concrete and 2000 miles long. And this is key, your dear leader bristled when it was called a fence.

 

[Born Free]

This is an important argument for Democrats. A border wall is not the same as border security. Trump has lied about Democrats supporting open borders for a while now, and he is looking to shift the debate towards border security because it sounds better. Democrats need to keep hammering the fact that Trump wants a wall specifically and not give in to some imaginary idea that they don't care about security.

And he's Dead On, you don't give a damn about border security. Christ you have sanctuary cities/state that harbor illegals. You have your Welcome sign out, and when they come you feed them, house them, give them welfare, food stamps and FIND them jobs. You have to have illegals to scrub your toilets.

You say walls don't work and they are immoral, and you want them taken down, so you have a big supply of illegals to do the work you refuse to do. Like clean your ****ing toilet, mow your lawn, wipe your kids runny nose, change the ****ty diaper, etc etc you know pamper your ass for money under the table.

You need your drugs that the illegals bring in, so you libs can meet on the street corner passing your drugs around and shooting up and you tell each other "life is good".

 

[Vern]

And he's Dead On, you don't give a damn about border security. Christ you have sanctuary cities/state that harbor illegals. You have your Welcome sign out, and when they come you feed them, house them, give them welfare, food stamps and FIND them jobs. You have to have illegals to scrub your toilets.

You say walls don't work and they are immoral, and you want them taken down, so you have a big supply of illegals to do the work you refuse to do. Like clean your ****ing toilet, mow your lawn, wipe your kids runny nose, change the ****ty diaper, etc etc you know pamper your ass for money under the table.

You need your drugs that the illegals bring in, so you libs can meet on the street corner passing your drugs around and shooting up and you tell each other "life is good".

wow, you seem really angry about immigrants and immigration. Would you be angry at Americans who not only hire illegals but literally turn down work to avoid hiring Americans?

 

[MrPeanut]

And he's Dead On, you don't give a damn about border security. Christ you have sanctuary cities/state that harbor illegals. You have your Welcome sign out, and when they come you feed them, house them, give them welfare, food stamps and FIND them jobs. You have to have illegals to scrub your toilets.

You say walls don't work and they are immoral, and you want them taken down, so you have a big supply of illegals to do the work you refuse to do. Like clean your ****ing toilet, mow your lawn, wipe your kids runny nose, change the ****ty diaper, etc etc you know pamper your ass for money under the table.

You need your drugs that the illegals bring in, so you libs can meet on the street corner passing your drugs around and shooting up and you tell each other "life is good".

Who are you talking about? Democrats have helped to pass plenty of things that strengthen border security. Don't get mad at me because some overweight drooling moron, with a track record of taking advantage of idiots, gets you hard. I want to solve the problem and not just build expensive symbols for no reason.

 

[Born Free]

wow, you seem really angry about immigrants and immigration. Would you be angry at Americans who not only hire illegals but literally turn down work to avoid hiring Americans?

I love immigration "legal immigration"

That would be all the people living in your Sanctuary Cities/State, you need someone to scrub your toilets on the cheap.

 

[Born Free]

Who are you talking about? Democrats have helped to pass plenty of things that strengthen border security. Don't get mad at me because some overweight drooling moron, with a track record of taking advantage of idiots, gets you hard. I want to solve the problem and not just build expensive symbols for no reason.

I'm talking about all the people living in your sanctuary cities/states, you have to have someone to scrub your toilets on the cheap.

Your not fooling anyone, Christ you harber illigals, and put out the welcome sign to assure you have cheap labor. Hell you won't even call ICE to deport illegal criminals, you just release them back into our society.

And another thing, you run your mouth off in an attempt to make Trump sound bad. However the ****ing moron, with a track record of idiocy was your beloved Obamafail who was a complete failure at everything. You want me to post up some of Obama's failures? I'll be glad to do it, in fact I'll post them up the next time you come calling. And we'll see who the idiot moron really is.

 

[Vern]

I love immigration "legal immigration"

That would be all the people living in your Sanctuary Cities/State, you need someone to scrub your toilets on the cheap.

mmmm, you were pretty worked up there about immigrants. I was just wondering if you had any issues with the people who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Anyhoo, you can be angry about immigrants all you want but just so you know, you're in a thread where republicans are pretending they didn't say "wall" over and over. And this wall was described as 40 foot high and made of concrete and 2000 miles long. And this is key, your dear leader bristled when it was called a fence.

 

[Born Free]

mmmm, you were pretty worked up there about immigrants. I was just wondering if you had any issues with the people who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Anyhoo, you can be angry about immigrants all you want but just so you know, you're in a thread where republicans are pretending they didn't say "wall" over and over. And this wall was described as 40 foot high and made of concrete and 2000 miles long. And this is key, your dear leader bristled when it was called a fence.

Yeah I had a question for you that you ran from and would not answer. But I will say you have your sanctuary cities/states harboring illegals and when they come to your sanctuary you feed them, find them jobs, give them welfare, give them housing, provide them medical, food stamps, etc. And when you have a criminal illegal alien, you will not call ICE, instead you let them go free back in our society. You need those illegals to scrub your tolits, mow your lawn, clean your house, change your kids ****ty diapers. And you pay them pennies under the table.

So anything you have to say about illegal aliens is bull****. You have to have that illegal cleaning up after you or you can't function.

 

[Vern]

Yeah I had a question for you that you ran from and would not answer. But I will say you have your sanctuary cities/states harboring illegals and when they come to your sanctuary you feed them, find them jobs, give them welfare, give them housing, provide them medical, food stamps, etc. And when you have a criminal illegal alien, you will not call ICE, instead you let them go free back in our society. You need those illegals to scrub your tolits, mow your lawn, clean your house, change your kids ****ty diapers. And you pay them pennies under the table.

So anything you have to say about illegal aliens is bull****. You have to have that illegal cleaning up after you or you can't function.

Your question had nothing to do with my posts or the thread. I responded with an equally irrelevant question thinking you would get the point. Of course you didn’t. Anyhoo, you were ranting about immigrants and I asked you a relevant question about your rant. What about the people that hire them?

 

[American]

the article is about how Trump is losing the "wall debate" but its just funny to see republicans trying to pretend using the word "wall" is some kind of democrat/librul media plot

In TV interviews last weekend, Republican lawmakers bent over backward to avoid the word wall. “I happen to agree with the president on barriers,” said Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri. Sen. Susan Collins of Maine pledged “to continue to build physical barriers.” On Fox News Sunday, Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, used the word barrier 13 times. Trump is “winning the battle on the importance of a barrier,” said Mulvaney. On Face the Nation, Mulvaney boasted that Democrats were privately telling the White House, “We think you might be right on this barrier thing.”

Barrier thing? If Trump is winning, why is everyone around him afraid to say the word wall?

Which leads to this typical dishonesty from the right

One sign of the president’s troubles is the behavior of his polling adviser, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway. She’s been recoiling from the word wall like a vampire recoiling from sunlight. Democrats “keep calling it the wall, the wall, because they want that to be a four-letter word,” Conway complained on Fox News earlier this month. When an interviewer asked whether Trump would “sign something that doesn’t have border wall funding,” Conway shot back, “It’s not border wall funding. It’s border security.” Last week on CNN, Conway and Chris Cuomo engaged in a 14-minute spell-casting duel. Cuomo hurled the word wall 15 times; Conway fired back with eight invocations of barrier and four uses of fence.

Republicans are ditching the wall.

Do I really need to point out that trump said wall? probably.

Democrats are fixated on the word wall, and more specifically on a concrete wall. The prototypes being considered were made of all kinds of materials, not just concrete; as though brainless idiots like Pelosi would have a single clue about what the best material to use is. I'll bet she couldn't find her way to the southern border with a map.

 

[Vern]

Democrats are fixated on the word wall, and more specifically on a concrete wall. The prototypes being considered were made of all kinds of materials, not just concrete; as though brainless idiots like Pelosi would have a single clue about what the best material to use is. I'll bet she couldn't find her way to the southern border with a map.

er uh "American", you do realize you're in a thread where republicans are pretending they didn't say "wall" over and over. And this wall was described as 40 foot high and made of concrete and 2000 miles long. And this is key, your dear leader bristled when it was called a fence.

 

[Kobie]

Democrats are fixated on the word wall, and more specifically on a concrete wall. The prototypes being considered were made of all kinds of materials, not just concrete; as though brainless idiots like Pelosi would have a single clue about what the best material to use is. I'll bet she couldn't find her way to the southern border with a map.

:lamo

Another “quality” post from a DP staff member.