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Turns out mexican Mexicans aren't too big on illegal immigration

azgreg said:
You shouldn't post when you've been drinking. I didn't claim 20 million illegal aliens are against illegal immigration. That's some stupid **** for you to post. You are really bad at this.
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You wrote: "Turns out hardly anybody is big on illegal immigration."


I replied: "In the United States, the evidence suggests otherwise. "



And you want a link to prove that?



Up your game. I'm sure you want people to think you have some credibility.
 
ocean515 said:
You wrote: "Turns out hardly anybody is big on illegal immigration."


I replied: "In the United States, the evidence suggests otherwise. "



And you want a link to prove that?



Up your game. I'm sure you want people to think you have some credibility.
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You didn't provide any evidence to support my claim and your asking me to prove a negative. Like I said, you're not very good at this. That's why you have the reputation here you have.
 
azgreg said:
You didn't provide any evidence to support my claim and your asking me to prove a negative. Like I said, you're not very good at this. That's why you have the reputation here you have.
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Reputation from whom? Who cares what you or they think?

The fact is you made a ridiculous claim, and I simply replied the evidence suggests it isn't true.


20 million illegals are reported to be living in the US. They probably have at least an equal number of relatives and friends in the US who are legal citizens. So that makes the number 30-40 million who probably don't have a problem with illegal immigration.

And I guess you think more than 1 out of 10 people living in this country is "hardly anyone".


That's why you have the reputation you have..... ;)
 
ocean515 said:
From what I've read, they were fired by the management when it was discovered they were illegal aliens.

The companies I've owned have hired thousands of workers over the years. Some of those workers have turned out to be illegal aliens who used forged documents and stolen identities. They were fired as soon as their crime was discovered.

And I thought we had pretty solid screening processes in place.

I think these illegal aliens are despicable. The worst of the worst. They put everyone's job at risk, and they don't care about the impact they will have on their coworkers who will suffer the consequences when they suddenly have to make a run for it and leave their position unfilled.
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Your screening process is clearly trash and I'd uphold a fine for you for hiring illegal immigrants. In fact, "ignorance" of the law is not protection from it. You hired illegals. You should go to ****ing jail.
 
ocean515 said:
Reputation from whom? Who cares what you or they think?

The fact is you made a ridiculous claim, and I simply replied the evidence suggests it isn't true.
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Without providing any of that evidence.

20 million illegals are reported to be living in the US. They probably have at least an equal number of relatives and friends in the US who are legal citizens. So that makes the number 30-40 million who probably don't have a problem with illegal immigration.

And I guess you think more than 1 out of 10 people living in this country is "hardly anyone".
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The people who have come here illegally and have had the opportunity to speak about it have stated that they didn't like having to come here the way they did. Most of them stated that they wish the circumstances at home were better so they wouldn't have had to make the decision to risk their lives to come here. They've also stated that they would rather have come here legally if it were an option for them. Now, these were stories I've seen in tv interviews so I don't have a link handy, sorry.

That's why you have the reputation you have..... ;)
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I've got a great reputation here, that's why they made me a staffer. ;)
 
azgreg said:
Nope



Nope



And nope

Now, if you want to argue that democrats/liberals/progressives want to make it easier for people to immigrate here you will have a point, but I haven't heard one person in favor of illegal immigration.
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Easier, as in "open borders".
 
Obscurity said:
Your screening process is clearly trash and I'd uphold a fine for you for hiring illegal immigrants. In fact, "ignorance" of the law is not protection from it. You hired illegals. You should go to ****ing jail.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. They are as relevant to question as they always are.
 
azgreg said:
Without providing any of that evidence.



The people who have come here illegally and have had the opportunity to speak about it have stated that they didn't like having to come here the way they did. Most of them stated that they wish the circumstances at home were better so they wouldn't have had to make the decision to risk their lives to come here. They've also stated that they would rather have come here legally if it were an option for them. Now, these were stories I've seen in tv interviews so I don't have a link handy, sorry.



I've got a great reputation here, that's why they made me a staffer. ;)
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Well as a staffer, you should know that it's common practice to provide some facts to back up your claims, as opposed to nothing in the face of the simple facts I've presented.

"Turns out hardly anybody is big on illegal immigration" is a statement of fact, implying the vast majority of people are against it.

However, most hilariously, I now see you're trying to apply some spin to your claim, which makes it worse.

Your argument is so bad it's not worth expending any more time on it.
 
ocean515 said:
Well as a staffer, you should know that it's common practice to provide some facts to back up your claims, as opposed to nothing in the face of the simple facts I've presented.

"Turns out hardly anybody is big on illegal immigration" is a statement of fact, implying the vast majority of people are against it.
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You want me to prove a negative. Arguably the dumbest request in any debate.

However, most hilariously, I now see you're trying to apply some spin to your claim, which makes it worse.

Your argument is so bad it's not worth expending any more time on it.
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Your surrender is noted.
 
apdst said:
Ocasio-Cortez Openly Advocates for Open Borders, Blames Immigration Surge on President Trump (Again) | 93.1 WIBC
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AOC is a young, idealistic idiot. Trump is an old idealistic idiot. You'd think Trump would have outgrown it.

It just shows the stupid polarization we have. Sonehow, i can't picture Trump sitting with AOC to work out immigration reform. Neither of them are going to settle for anything less than everything. Personally, pragmatism is something i look for, especially in a President.

Or, alternatively, AOC was trolling the right. Don't you have a sense of humor? (The usual excuse when Trump opens his mouth)
 
rocket88 said:
AOC is a young, idealistic idiot. Trump is an old idealistic idiot. You'd think Trump would have outgrown it.

It just shows the stupid polarization we have. Sonehow, [n]i can't picture Trump sitting with AOC to work out immigration reform.[/b] Neither of them are going to settle for anything less than everything. Personally, pragmatism is something i look for, especially in a President.

Or, alternatively, AOC was trolling the right. Don't you have a sense of humor? (The usual excuse when Trump opens his mouth)
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Who says we need immigration reform, anyway?
 
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