Trumpsters, Can You Please Tell Me Why Michael Flynn Lied And Pleaded Guilty? Please Help Me.

[Jay59]

Mike Pence disagrees with you. Michael Flynn also disagrees with you. Hence, why he pleaded guilty.He proved it by pleading guilty? LOL. This is some crazy ass ****. I guess it makes sense in the Deep State. It's like arguing with someone who says the sky isn't blue. Truly pitiful. You don't know the meaning of the word debate. You just deny facts, like Diesel said. It's pitiful as ****. Flynn lied. He pleaded guilty for lying. Mike Pence also said Flynn lied to him. Those are facts. Your demented Deep State Trump world does not change those facts, no matter how much you hold your breath and whine about it.

:yawn:

Did you have anything helpful to say?

 

[AlphaOmega]

Flynn stated that he pled GUILTY because he was in fact GUILTY and did so voluntarily of his own free will. He further stated that no threat was made to him.

Corece fail^ Priceless forum comedy on display here.

 

[AlphaOmega]

I did. Sounds like some real hanky panky was played by the Bill Barr inJustice Department to protect Flynn and Trump and it is NOT at all what you pretend it was.

No it didn't.

 

[AlphaOmega]

You mean multiple people have responded. With opinions. With no facts. With Trump cult Deep State bull**** only. Your post is exhibit A.

That's not the same thing as answering.

Here is a fact. The prosecution dropped their charges. Why donyou think they did that if his plea wasn't coerced?

 

[AlphaOmega]

So how can you argue that Flynn did not lie, without seeing these transcripts?

How do we know you didn't cheat on your taxes without seeing them?

 

[AlphaOmega]

Sorry, Deep State crazy ass opinions don't count. This is a response, not an answer.

I mentored you about this a little while ago. Maybe you'll learn someday.

If thats true why are lefties darting out from their hives trying to sting this story like theit hives depends on it.
Let me mentor you....the bombers are on target on this and your radar towers are now in rubble. This goes all the way back to Obama and you damn well know it. But hey on the bright side..when Trump wins you get to see me rub it in again.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Well, you've demonstrated an ability to find basic facts incomprehensible:

1) Flynn lied to the FBI

2) Flynn pleaded guilty

3) Flynn lied to Mike Pence

4) Mike Pence is a limp dick wishy washy flip flopper who is now having a change of heart about Flynn. How ****ing pathetic.

#4 is indeed a fact as well. :lamo

awww...someone is having trouble coming to grips with the democrat coup being exposed.
And good god man...look up coerce in a real dictionary. Show it to the nearest adult and have them explain it to you. You obviously aren't getting the concept on your own.

 

[Marrybore]

Yeah, I know the responses will be the typical asinine, fact-free, liberal-hating nonsense, but I need a good laugh. So please break it down for me.

Well, you were right.

 

[haymarket]

Corece fail^ Priceless forum comedy on display here.

I have no idea what that means.

 

[haymarket]

No it didn't.

hanky panky

something smells funny

something is rotten in Denmark

it just does not add up

Say it any way you want to but what happened to prosecutor Van Grack?

In the end, we are left with a confession from Flynn in court

"I fully understand this Agreement and agree to it without reservation. I do this voluntarily and of my own free will, intending to be legally bound. No threats have been made to me nor am I under the influence of anything that could impede my ability to understand this Agreement fully. I am pleading GUILTY because I am in fact GUILTY"

And that effectively obliterates any right wing delusion about coercion and threats. The man pled GUILTY because he was in fact GUILTY.

 

[AlphaOmega]

I have no idea what that means.

I know you don't know what coerce means.
Here is the definition once again.
co•erce*kō-ûrs′

►

transitive verb

To pressure, intimidate, or force (someone) into doing something.*synonym:*force.

transitive verb

To bring about or gain by pressure, threat, or force.

To restrain or constrain by force, as by the force of law or authority; especially, compel to compliance; constrain to obedience or submission in a vigorous or forcible manner.

 

[AlphaOmega]

hanky panky

something smells funny

something is rotten in Denmark

it just does not add up

Say it any way you want to but what happened to prosecutor Van Grack?

In the end, we are left with a confession from Flynn in court



And that effectively obliterates any right wing delusion about coercion and threats. The man pled GUILTY because he was in fact GUILTY.

co•erce*kō-ûrs′

►

transitive verb

To pressure, intimidate, or force (someone) into doing something.*synonym:*force.

transitive verb

To bring about or gain by pressure, threat, or force.

To restrain or constrain by force, as by the force of law or authority; especially, compel to compliance; constrain to obedience or submission in a vigorous or forcible manner.

 

[Diesel]

You changed the question. Originally, you asked why he lied. This is easily answered, because he did not lie. Now you want to go into the various ways, legal and extra-legal which pressure was brought. That is a longer discussion, but not one you had asked for.

For now, you have been answered.

No, I didn't. I said Flynn pleaded guilty to lying. You've never addressed that in any coherent way.

 

[haymarket]

I know you don't know what coerce means.

You are using it incorrectly as Flynn said no threat was involved and he was pleading GUILTY of his own free will and voluntarily.

You are simply 100% WRONG when you say his confession in court was coerced.

 

[haymarket]

co•erce*kō-ûrs′

►

transitive verb

To pressure, intimidate, or force (someone) into doing something.*synonym:*force.

transitive verb

To bring about or gain by pressure, threat, or force.

To restrain or constrain by force, as by the force of law or authority; especially, compel to compliance; constrain to obedience or submission in a vigorous or forcible manner.

Flynn said in court he was pleading GUILTY of his own free will because he was in fact GUILTY. There was no coercion.

 

[Jay59]

No, I didn't. I said Flynn pleaded guilty to lying. You've never addressed that in any coherent way.

Final answer, because you changed the subject.

Yeah, I know the responses will be the typical asinine, fact-free, liberal-hating nonsense, but I need a good laugh. So please break it down for me.

Please explain to me why this traitor Michael Flynn lied to the FBI to protect his fellow traitor boss Donald Trump in the first place. And then explain why Flynn pleaded guilty for lying to the FBI about it. If Flynn did nothing wrong, then why lie about it to the FBI??

And then explain to me how "Lock Her Up!" Michael Flynn is not a total ****ing hypocrite.

I just want to know how the Deep State tricked this retired 3-star general. How can someone of his standing meekly plead guilty without putting up a fight, especially when he is innocent? The Deep State is much more clever than I thought, I must say.

I need a big Trumpster brain to explain all of this to me. Much obliged!!

You wanted to know why he lied. The answer is that he did not lie.

On a further note, you say he is a traitor, which is not supported by the evidence.

 

[Termn8or]

Flynn said in court he was pleading GUILTY of his own free will because he was in fact GUILTY. There was no coercion.

Come on, you're kidding, right?

Flynn held out while going $6 million into debt to pay legal bills and losing his house. He was both professionally and personally ruined.

But he still refused to plead guilty.

Then the corrupt Mueller hacks threatened to indict his son, which would have put him millions into debt and/or ruined his entire life; leaving him either millions in debt or with a criminal record.

So the 3-star general did what any father would have done; he fell on his sword to save his son.

And indictments are hopefully going to be issued for those who committed this huge abuse of power.

 

[danielpalos]

Final answer, because you changed the subject.


You wanted to know why he lied. The answer is that he did not lie.

On a further note, you say he is a traitor, which is not supported by the evidence.

How is one answer not a lie when Two contradictory answers have been provided?

 

[haymarket]

Come on, you're kidding, right?

Flynn was NOT kidding when he confessed his guilt and pleaded GUILTY of his own free will.

 

[Jay59]

Flynn was NOT kidding when he confessed his guilt and pleaded GUILTY of his own free will.

I suppose that is the point. Is a coerced confession free will?

However, you seem to be trying to make the point that the plea proves the facts. It is indeed strong evidence, but it is not proof. Stronger evidence has been brought contradicting the accusation.

 

[jwzg]

One does not have to be a "Trumpster" to think differently than you on this matter.

Prisons Are Packed Because Prosecutors Are Coercing Plea Deals. And, Yes, It's Totally Legal. | Cato Institute

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[danielpalos]

I suppose that is the point. Is a coerced confession free will?

However, you seem to be trying to make the point that the plea proves the facts. It is indeed strong evidence, but it is not proof. Stronger evidence has been brought contradicting the accusation.

Your own guys fired him for lying. Why do right wingers want to be taken seriously when they are literally incredible in what they claim.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Flynn said in court he was pleading GUILTY of his own free will because he was in fact GUILTY. There was no coercion.

co•erce*kō-ûrs′

►

transitive verb

To pressure, intimidate, or force (someone) into doing something.*synonym:*force.

transitive verb

To bring about or gain by pressure, threat, or force.

To restrain or constrain by force, as by the force of law or authority; especially, compel to compliance; constrain to obedience or submission in a vigorous or forcible manner.
Lets see how long it takes for the definition to connect via neurons.

 

[haymarket]

I suppose that is the point. Is a coerced confession free will?

However, you seem to be trying to make the point that the plea proves the facts. It is indeed strong evidence, but it is not proof. Stronger evidence has been brought contradicting the accusation.

Flynn openly confessed in court saying he was pleading GUILTY voluntarily and of his own free will. Anyone trying to make that something other than what it is is simply denying reality.

 

[haymarket]

co•erce*kō-ûrs′

►

transitive verb

To pressure, intimidate, or force (someone) into doing something.*synonym:*force.

transitive verb

To bring about or gain by pressure, threat, or force.

To restrain or constrain by force, as by the force of law or authority; especially, compel to compliance; constrain to obedience or submission in a vigorous or forcible manner.
Lets see how long it takes for the definition to connect via neurons.

Flynn disagrees - and he should know.