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Trump's "****hole" comment it offensive because...

Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...


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Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

What are you referring to?
Are you still a black man? :lol:
 
Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

Sure am. Why does it matter?

(Here we go again! :lamo)

A lying POS? Yes. You still are.
 
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How is calling Haiti a ****hole racist?

It isn't. At worst it was an unprofessional statement for a politician to make......even though the statement is factual. Haiti is a very dysfunctional nation with very little to no hope of changing.
 
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Trump should have just tossed their proposal into the trash, told them to get their asses out of his office and don't come back until they have something that meets his conditions.

But, of course, the butthurt Congressmen would just claim Trump called them all asses and the media would be outraged that Trump would treat respected Congressmen that way. And if there were any black Congressmen, the media story would change into Trump telling them to get their black and white asses out of his office.

There are very few congressmen I have respect for anyway.
 
Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

It isn't. At worst it was an unprofessional statement for a politician to make......even though the statement is factual. Haiti is a very dysfunctional nation with very little to no hope of changing.

A fair and accurate assessment of Trump's statement.

See how the political left, who wants leverage on the GOP and Trump for a DACA deal without doing a single thing that's much needed which is what Trump and the GOP congress want to do, scurry off into their nasty corner and throwing the race card with reckless abandon, their usual political ploy.

You know, this song of their's always remains the same.

Surely, not every political situation is the same, but always seems to illicitness the same response from them. A lack of imagination, perhaps?
 
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No, I'm adsolutely right. You hyoocrisy has been exposed and upon that exposure, you doubled down.

It's hypocritical and racist for you to say that you don't have to take a few million hispanics into your country.

:lamo

Nope, you are absolutely wrong. Your untruthful narrative is obvious for everyone to see but you think doubling down is going to "obscure" the fact that you are telling things that are bogus/untrue. Sad.
 
Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

So, we should all be able to commit one crime and be excused?

Again, I was talking about legal immigrants and how they caused high crime figures.
 
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:lamo

Nope, you are absolutely wrong. Your untruthful narrative is obvious for everyone to see but you think doubling down is going to "obscure" the fact that you are telling things that are bogus/untrue. Sad.

You just said it, so it's absolutely thruthful. Your racism has been exposed.
 
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Again, I was talking about legal immigrants and how they caused high crime figures.

I said illegal immigrants and you were all like, no way dude!

That's racist!
 
Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

I said illegal immigrants and you were all like, no way dude!

That's racist!

You're the one who said it. Therefore I expect you to stick to that.
 
Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

I said illegal immigrants and you were all like, no way dude!

That's racist!

:lamo

Sure, I said no to taking 10 million illegals from the US and that makes me a racist :lamo

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Seen a couple of different arguments and curious which is most prevalent. Though you might agree with more than one, please choose the one you most agree with. I didn't make it multiple choice because it would be too easy to just click them all.

Poll on the way.
It's inaccurate.

"****hole" is a subjective term.

Beyond that, there are far more effective and diplomatic ways to make a point about how we should limit immigration.
 
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It's unprofessional for a President to be depicted saying something like that about another nation, regardless of whether it should've been kept private or not.

It's massively, stupendously, dumb for a President to say such a thing in any company that he's not POSITIVELY SURE that it will not leak out.

However, it's not more "racist" than the ways I've seen people describe places like Alabama and other areas of the south over the years. His position as a President means that, in terms of professionalism and decision making, his comments can't be compared to random folks on the internet. However, as it relates to the racist nature of his comments, it absolutely can because being President or not doesn't magically make his comments more or less racist.
 
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First time DUI is only a misdemeanor, too. So, let's just not worry about those either. Yes?

Well, apdst, it is your choice to disclose your personal experience. But it does explain a lot. Yes.
 
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That's not the problem. The problem comes from a worldview that thinks that if someone comes from a place that's currently a mess socially, politically, and economically, then it's because of something innate to people from that part of the world. Something genetic. Not due to social/historical/political factors which are contingent. So these people are seen as something other than quite human. Not like us, who live in a place that has its act together (well, more or less, at least for now).

Social, political, economic problems are contingent, not innate to people native to a particular geographic location. This is the mindset that allows a dehumanization of people. If they are somehow genetically and innately different from us, they must innately be incapable of having proper systems of governance, or peace and stability, or business success, or scientific/technological advancement. So if they are so different from us, they must not feel pain like us either, or humiliation, or they must not have ambitions of a better life like us. Or they must not love their loved ones like us. We cannot put ourselves in their shoes, because we think they are so different. And so the empathy goes. And that is the most dangerous first step toward the dehumanization of others.

So it's OK to treat them as something other than a fellow human being.

That's why this mindset of treating human beings in a heartless way, just because where they happened to have been born is currently messed up, is so ultimately dangerous. We cannot forget our sense of humanity. That transcends our being from the US or Haiti, or tall or short, or with a bald head or a full head of hair, or having blue eyes or brown.

We are all human beings. We cannot let contingent social and political problems of where we were born define us, and we must not allow others to do that.

This has nothing to do with race or the perceived inhuman treatment of others.
We as a country have a right to let in those that we feel best to benefit us all as a whole.

Besides, mass immigration is in no way a possible fix for their problems, or ours for that matter.
These people who believe that the best way to increase their quality of life and the quality of America, is by doing this year round. Are fooling themselves to the most severe degrees.

I would rather we help them there, instead of displacing them here.
 
Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

I'm not offended when some European or Canadian here on DP is ignorantly insulting of the United States, its government, its President, or its people, although I'm capable of finding the comments made offensive. There is a difference between being offended, personally, and finding a matter/comment to be offensive, if not to me personally.

You don't need to be personally connected to a comment to be offended by it.


As for your attempt to imply that I'm insensitive to any verbal attack on any individual person and would not consider such comments offensive, I find your attempt at insulting me to be highly offensive.

I was offering you an opportunity to clarify your words, John. No one forced you to state you don't get offended by offensive statements/actions that don't affect you personally.
 
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And that would be the typical response coming from the party of abortion, debilitating welfare and freak shows galore.

There's a geo-mutualist party? I had no idea.
 
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Maybe your America was. Mine was highly vetted.

Ah, so those words “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore,” were just scratched into the Statue of Liberty by some Antifa punk? Gotcha.
 
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England is a ****hole?

:doh

Someone needs to retake US History 101.
 
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Well, apdst, it is your choice to disclose your personal experience. But it does explain a lot. Yes.

Actually it's something that's pretty broadly known without need for personal experience. I can think of a number of offenses that are misdemeanors but that doesn't mean I committed them all.
 
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Ah, so those words “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore,” were just scratched into the Statue of Liberty by some Antifa punk? Gotcha.

"Wretched refuse"? How racist is that?
 
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