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Trump's Family Values Are Superior!

Logician Man said:
Citation liberals have attacked love ?
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He's going full circle. He's going to end this by accusing us of being liberal cucks for not prioritizing Love over things like traditional marriage.


The twists one is forced into when one attempts to defend Trump on a moral plane remain astounding.
 
cpwill said:
So, you can't cite it for us, this is simply another area where you have chosen to confuse an unintended consequence with a value.

But it's good to see you cite that things such as kicking out one's spouse is bad.
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The entire thread is based on an unsubstantiated claim. That is clear.
 
Logician Man said:
The entire thread is based on an unsubstantiated claim. That is clear.
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If you are right being 777 posts in is really sad, but we are in a era where far too few people care about truth enough to try to find it.
 
cpwill said:
So, you can't cite it for us,
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Daniel Patrick Moynihan: "In too many cases, if our Government had set out determined to destroy the family, it couldn't have done greater damage than some of what we see today. Too often these programs, well-intentioned, welfare programs for example, which were meant to provide for temporary support, have undermined responsibility. They've robbed people of control of their lives, destroyed their dignity, in some cases -- and we've tried hard to change this -- encouraged people, man and wife, to live apart because they might just get a little bit more to put in their pockets.
 
James972 said:
Daniel Patrick Moynihan: "In too many cases, if our Government had set out determined to destroy the family, it couldn't have done greater damage than some of what we see today. Too often these programs, well-intentioned, welfare programs for example, which were meant to provide for temporary support, have undermined responsibility. They've robbed people of control of their lives, destroyed their dignity, in some cases -- and we've tried hard to change this -- encouraged people, man and wife, to live apart because they might just get a little bit more to put in their pockets.
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///// Daniel Patrick Moynihan //// :lamo:lamo:lamo
 
James972 said:
what truth in particular are you talking about?? Do you have any idea??
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I am making a general statement and YES of course I have some idea of what I am talking about...I dont speak unless I think I have some idea of what I am talking about, I stopped spouting BS when I was a kid.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
YES of course I have some idea of what I am talking about..
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cut the BS and tell us what you are talking about. Agree with OP?? too complicated for you??
 
James972 said:
cut the BS and tell us what you are talking about. Agree with OP?? too complicated for you??
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Actually the thread OP seems to be too complicated for you, seeing as you are now back tracking on it.
 
Logician Man said:
Actually the thread OP seems to be too complicated for you, seeing as you are now back tracking on it.
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so you agree Trumps liberal family values are not as deplorable as liberal school to prison sex abuse pipeline values?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
that which you did not comprehend.
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but you are afraid to tell us what that is? What do we learn from your fear? ever see a conservative have to run from a debate? But don't let that stop you from being a liberal!!
 
James972 said:
so you agree Trumps liberal family values are not as deplorable as liberal school to prison sex abuse pipeline values?
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How did you derive that from me stating your own thread OP is too complicated for you to understand and are now backtracking on your own thread OP CLAIM ?
 
James972 said:
Daniel Patrick Moynihan: "In too many cases, if our Government had set out determined to destroy the family, it couldn't have done greater damage than some of what we see today. Too often these programs, well-intentioned, welfare programs for example, which were meant to provide for temporary support, have undermined responsibility. They've robbed people of control of their lives, destroyed their dignity, in some cases -- and we've tried hard to change this -- encouraged people, man and wife, to live apart because they might just get a little bit more to put in their pockets.
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They most certainly have not robbed people of control over their lives. That is a leftist talking point, and a far-leftist one at that. Conservatives and Christians both still recognize moral agency. That is why conservatives point towards (for example) the success ladder, and oppose that which limits opportunity, v trying to fix the results.
 
James972 said:
but you are afraid to tell us what that is? What do we learn from your fear? ever see a conservative have to run from a debate? But don't let that stop you from being a liberal!!
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A lot of what you have posted indicates you are a closet liberal.
 
Logician Man said:
///// Daniel Patrick Moynihan //// :lamo:lamo:lamo
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Yup. And since his much-then-derided work, the problems he pointed to have only gotten worse, and the claims he made have only been broadly validated.

Didn't liberals used to boast about data-driven-policy?
 
cpwill said:
Yup. And since his much-then-derided work, the problems he pointed to have only gotten worse, and the claims he made have only been broadly validated.

Didn't liberals used to boast about data-driven-policy?
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yes he looks like a genius now. HE saw it coming 50 years ago but liberals still don't see it. No wonder so many are in prison when blind dumb liberals are involved!
 
James972 said:
yes he looks like a genius now. HE saw it coming 50 years ago but liberals still don't see it. No wonder so many are in prison when blind dumb liberals are involved!
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Pretty sure being in prison is the fault of the criminal, actually. How very leftist of you to blame society instead :)

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cpwill said:
Pretty sure being in prison is the fault of the criminal,
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in part, for sure but when few were in prison before the liberal attack on love and family and many after that tells you liberalism did it. Do you understand?
 
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