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Trumpers Illegally Desecrate BLM Mural

maxparrish said:
But who actually broke the law?

1) A public official does not have the authority to waive vandalism law, and neither does a city council unless it changes the law to exclude street art. Vandalism laws are designed to prohibit conduct that has the potential to cost states or local government "in clean-up efforts" and when a person defaces, alters, or otherwise destroys another's property (including publicly owned property) they may "face criminal penalties in the form of jail time, fines, or both. Those laws almost always include the defacing public property with graffiti and other forms of "art".

2) If a City decides to change vandalism law to allow the promotion of political messages on street they may not exclude such art based on content. Therefore, the people erasing the art have an equal right to use the same public property, in kind, to express their views - in this case by painting their own 'art' to return the street to its normal state and preserve the lane, cross walk, parking, and other markers for the regulation of traffic.

3) The City may regulate where street art may be applied but through legally established and written policy, and they must provide an equal opportunity for others on downtown streets to write their counter-messaging.

As it stands, the City is acting illegally unless it amends the laws on the books, creates a content neutral policy, and allows all sides to use the city streets for political messaging.

The couple's "vandalism" in returning a street to its legal function would be applauded in most states...but then this is California.
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This was a city approved street mural... The city is not acting illegally.. good lord...
 
Deuce said:
The city said it was approved. If you want to prove they're lying, you'll probably have to physically go there and search their records.
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I know Martinez. I know all about their Resolution. And it says nothing to permit this political stunt on a city street.

Citizens also own streets and have rights to a clean street so now it is clean.
 
There are more important things than knocking down statues and defacing street lettering. We're shallow like that.
 
BlueTex said:
This was a city approved street mural... The city is not acting illegally.. good lord...
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Where is your proof it was approved by the city council? Got the minutes?

The city street is restored to original. As it should be.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Where is your proof it was approved by the city council? Got the minutes?

The city street is restored to original. As it should be.
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Just a quote from the city manager... Is that good enough?

Justin Gomez and Martizians for Black Lives, applied through the city’s Recreation Department for permission for the temporary street banner, said City Manager Eric Figueroa, who was able to expedite city authorization of the public art project’s special permit because it’s temporary. “We don’t know how long the paint will last,” Figueroa said.

‘Black Lives Matter’ street mural to be painted in downtown Martinez July 4 – Martinez News-Gazette
 
jimjeff said:
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I think you have a difficulty with numbers...what you skip arithmetic...OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO LIE ABOUT IT HUH....
oh I see your a beboobli-CON... now I understand it's the latter
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Condescension aside, there are many better approaches to disagree with another's opinion. With the millions of dollars of vandalism, looting, arson and property damage across the United States, including broken windows, businesses, vehicles, statues, graffiti and other property damage, a hundred is a very conservative number, it's pretty safe to assume it was more than 100 people.
 
Robertinfremont said:
I will check on that mayor and dollars to donuts he or she is a devoted Democrat. I know Martinez fairly well having lived in the SF Bay Area for most of my life.

I am unable to get the Mayor to name his party. Not directly, but by studying his own biography.

Outsiders want to change how the city elects Mayors.

Martinez has a Hispanic population of around 13 percent, with Asian Pacific Islander at 9 percent, African American at 3 percent, and Caucasian at 74 percent, with no specific neighborhoods having a high concentration of protected classes. Martinez is the county seat of Contra Costa County. cities there include Concord and Walnut Creek.

ViewPoints by Rob Schroder: Martinez forced into election change, expense – East Bay Times
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Another example of idiot liberal laws that enrich lawyers and cranks, and do the EXACT opposite of what the "do-gooders" intended.

I live near Martinez and worked many years in the downtown. The article you linked to is correct: its a well integrated community without any obvious differences is racial/ethnic distribution. Now here is the kicker: in and at large voting system minorities have a GREATER chance of being elected. If 5 seats are open, candidates win by rank order. If there are 10 candidates, and a few are minority, the white vote is evenly distributed to eight white folk. The minority voter will focus his/her votes on the one or two minority candidates.

It such a system the minority candidate might come in first, but almost certainly snag the 4th or 5th spots in rank order.

NOW compare to districts. Five districts, each with 2 candidates for one office. If people vote according to their race/ethnicity minorities will ALWAYS be outvoted. 1 Euro-White vs. 1 Hispanic means 74% of the vote goes to the White person - assuming, of course, white and Hispanic people vote only for their own kind.

Ergo, the best way to insure an all white City Council in Martinez is district voting...just what the "liberal" axe-grinder(s) don't want.

LOL...you can't make this stuff up.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
No, the "mural" was restored.
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I see where it can be. Not that it is done.

What will happen next is the street will be restored as it should be.

Also the mural is only temporary.

It celebrates the life of a criminal.
 
Robertinfremont said:
I see where it can be. Not that it is done.

What will happen next is the street will be restored as it should be.

Also the mural is only temporary.

It celebrates the life of a criminal.
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Robertinfremont said:
I see where it can be. Not that it is done.

What will happen next is the street will be restored as it should be.

Also the mural is only temporary.

It celebrates the life of a criminal.
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false.
 
the leader of the free world could come out and make inspiring speeches that are inclusive and cause people to calm down. he can't stop all the protests/etc, but he certainly can be part of a solution for all Americans.

as it is, he's just stoking the fires and hoping it helps him in the upcoming election.




folks. that's not a leader. that's like a really bad general.
 
maxparrish said:
Another example of idiot liberal laws that enrich lawyers and cranks, and do the EXACT opposite of what the "do-gooders" intended.

I live near Martinez and worked many years in the downtown. The article you linked to is correct: its a well integrated community without any obvious differences is racial/ethnic distribution. Now here is the kicker: in and at large voting system minorities have a GREATER chance of being elected. If 5 seats are open, candidates win by rank order. If there are 10 candidates, and a few are minority, the white vote is evenly distributed to eight white folk. The minority voter will focus his/her votes on the one or two minority candidates.

It such a system the minority candidate might come in first, but almost certainly snag the 4th or 5th spots in rank order.

NOW compare to districts. Five districts, each with 2 candidates for one office. If people vote according to their race/ethnicity minorities will ALWAYS be outvoted. 1 Euro-White vs. 1 Hispanic means 74% of the vote goes to the White person - assuming, of course, white and Hispanic people vote only for their own kind.

Ergo, the best way to insure an all white City Council in Martinez is district voting...just what the "liberal" axe-grinder(s) don't want.

LOL...you can't make this stuff up.
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I moved to Idaho for FREEDOM Max and you are correct. I spent many years living in Fremont, CA. As that city now is, it is heavily represented by the Asians.

Here in Idaho, and try this in CA. We the family had over 3 solid hours of fireworks to celebrate the 4th. We saw one cop car pass and it did not slow. We had one visit by a community for the police who left the kids plenty of police support stickers. My grandson put on a hell of a show. It started ahead of 9pm and ended about 12:15
 
Deuce said:
Repainting a mural is faster and cheaper than building a new statue, wouldn't you say?

Furthermore, "black lives matter" isn't as controversial as confederate slavers.
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Removing paint from a statue is harder than fixing a vandalized mural? :lamo
 
CaughtInThe said:
the leader of the free world could come out and make inspiring speeches that are inclusive and cause people to calm down. he can't stop all the protests/etc, but he certainly can be part of a solution for all Americans.

as it is, he's just stoking the fires and hoping it helps him in the upcoming election.




folks. that's not a leader. that's like a really bad general.
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Oh he did that at Mt. Rushmore. And the media promptly lied.

What Democrats mean by all inclusive is go to hell white people. Only BLM.
 
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